America's Next Omicron Wave (with Bill Hanage)
03/21/22 • 50 min
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Andy brings Harvard epidemiologist Bill Hanage back to discuss what the US can expect to see with the new Omicron subvariant BA.2. How will our bump compare to what we’re seeing in Europe? And how will people navigate it with the nationwide relaxation of vaccine and mask mandates? Plus, they revisit some of their previous conversation about the original strain of Omicron from six weeks ago to see how well their predictions held up.
Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.
Follow Bill @BillHanage on Twitter.
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Check out these resources from today’s episode:
- Here is the piece that Bill wrote with Marc Lipsitch back in February 2020 called ‘How to Report on the COVID-19 Outbreak Responsibly”: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/how-to-report-on-the-covid-19-outbreak-responsibly/
- Check out the paper Bill co-wrote in Cell about variants: https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(21)01374-X.pdf
- Read the David Leonhardt piece that Andy references in today’s episode: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/briefing/covid-risks-poll-americans.html
- Bill mentioned this paper that appeared in The Lancet about Omicron and Delta in the UK: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00462-7/fulltext
- Order free at-home COVID-19 tests through the USPS: https://special.usps.com/testkits
- Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/
- Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165
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For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.
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Andy brings Harvard epidemiologist Bill Hanage back to discuss what the US can expect to see with the new Omicron subvariant BA.2. How will our bump compare to what we’re seeing in Europe? And how will people navigate it with the nationwide relaxation of vaccine and mask mandates? Plus, they revisit some of their previous conversation about the original strain of Omicron from six weeks ago to see how well their predictions held up.
Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.
Follow Bill @BillHanage on Twitter.
Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.
Support the show by checking out our sponsors!
- Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/
- Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.
Check out these resources from today’s episode:
- Here is the piece that Bill wrote with Marc Lipsitch back in February 2020 called ‘How to Report on the COVID-19 Outbreak Responsibly”: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/how-to-report-on-the-covid-19-outbreak-responsibly/
- Check out the paper Bill co-wrote in Cell about variants: https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(21)01374-X.pdf
- Read the David Leonhardt piece that Andy references in today’s episode: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/briefing/covid-risks-poll-americans.html
- Bill mentioned this paper that appeared in The Lancet about Omicron and Delta in the UK: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00462-7/fulltext
- Order free at-home COVID-19 tests through the USPS: https://special.usps.com/testkits
- Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/
- Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165
Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.
For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Is Ukraine the One Issue Congress Can Agree On? (with Rep. Ro Khanna)
Andy begins by talking about the rise in COVID cases around the world and what that could mean for us here in America. Then, listen in as Andy and Silicon Valley Congressman Ro Khanna have a wide-ranging conversation about the war in Ukraine, the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, and what it takes to build bridges both across the aisle and within one’s own party. Ro explains his views on how far the U.S. should go to defend Ukraine, what it means to be a "progressive capitalist," and how we can achieve dignity in a digital age.
Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.
Follow Representative Khanna @RoKhanna on Twitter.
Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.
Support the show by checking out our sponsors!
- Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/
- Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.
Check out these resources from today’s episode:
- Read Andy’s whole thread that Press Secretary Jen Psaki was asked about: https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1503412039389102083
- Check out Rep. Khanna’s new book, Dignity in a Digital Age: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dignity-in-a-Digital-Age/Ro-Khanna/9781982163341
- Order free at-home COVID-19 tests through the USPS: https://special.usps.com/testkits
- Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/
- Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165
Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.
For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.
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The Next COVID Crisis: Funding (with Jeff Zients and Zeke Emanuel)
1 RecommendationsAndy tackles the pressing need for more COVID funding with two guests who are fighting to make it happen: outgoing White House Coronavirus Coordinator Jeff Zients and former COVID Transition Team member Dr. Zeke Emanuel. What will happen if the U.S. can't afford to pay for a fourth round of vaccines? And what is holding Congress up? Zeke and Andy also discuss the plan Zeke is spearheading for the next phase of the pandemic, and Andy puts Zeke through a lightning round where he asks him about variant-specific vaccines, the potential return of mask mandates, how best to use oral antivirals like Paxlovid, and much more.
Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt.
Follow Zeke @ZekeEmanuel on Twitter.
Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.
Support the show by checking out our sponsors!
- Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/
- Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com.
Check out these resources from today’s episode:
- Read the letter by Dr. Zeke Emanuel, signed by Andy and other health experts, calling for Congress to fund the U.S. COVID response: http://www.ezekielemanuel.com/academic-policy/all-academic-writing/2022/03/18/statement-urging-congress-to-extend-funding-for-covid-response
- Learn about the plan that Dr. Emanuel and other experts made for how America can live with COVID: https://www.covidroadmap.org/
- Check out the National COVID-19 Preparedness Plan: https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/
- Listen to the episode with Senator Tim Kaine: https://lemonadamedia.com/podcast/inside-the-three-russian-nuclear-threats-with-senator-tim-kaine/
- Order free at-home COVID-19 tests through the USPS: https://special.usps.com/testkits
- Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/
- Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165
Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.
For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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