
Divorce in the Military with Attorney Paul Phipps
04/26/22 • 35 min
Does dealing with divorce while in the military make it more complicated? Former US Army Military Policeman Paul Phipps, also an attorney at Nelson Law Group, joins Pete and Seth in this episode to discuss about the complexities of divorce when one or both of the parties are military members.
We talk acronyms – USFSPA and SMCRA, not to mention the 20/20/20 rule. How do they affect you? What happens when both parties in the divorce are in the military, and how is that different than if it’s just one? Where do you look for your jurisdiction? What happens if you’re deployed?
There’s a lot to cover, but Paul walks us through it today. Tune in!

Does dealing with divorce while in the military make it more complicated? Former US Army Military Policeman Paul Phipps, also an attorney at Nelson Law Group, joins Pete and Seth in this episode to discuss about the complexities of divorce when one or both of the parties are military members.
We talk acronyms – USFSPA and SMCRA, not to mention the 20/20/20 rule. How do they affect you? What happens when both parties in the divorce are in the military, and how is that different than if it’s just one? Where do you look for your jurisdiction? What happens if you’re deployed?
There’s a lot to cover, but Paul walks us through it today. Tune in!

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Divorce in the Military with Attorney Paul Phipps
Does dealing with divorce while in the military make it more complicated? Former US Army Military Policeman Paul Phipps, also an attorney at Nelson Law Group, joins Pete and Seth in this episode to discuss about the complexities of divorce when one or both of the parties are military members.
We talk acronyms – USFSPA and SMCRA, not to mention the 20/20/20 rule. How do they affect you? What happens when both parties in the divorce are in the military, and how is that different than if it’s just one? Where do you look for your jurisdiction? What happens if you’re deployed?
There’s a lot to cover, but Paul walks us through it today. Tune in!
- (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
- (00:26) - Meet Paul Phipps
- (01:36) - Military Divorce
- (02:49) - What's Available to You
- (03:49) - Jurisdictions
- (08:03) - When Both Parties Are Active
- (08:45) - The USFSPA
- (09:39) - The 20/20/20 Rule
- (10:55) - Sponsor: Soberlink
- (12:29) - Divorce While Deployed
- (15:20) - DOD vs. Military
- (16:02) - Deployment vs. Station
- (18:26) - Locking Down an Agreement
- (20:32) - SCRA's Net
- (21:05) - The Non-Military Party
- (23:08) - The Equalizer
- (26:29) - Receiving Health Insurance
- (27:21) - Separating the Stuff
- (29:33) - Resources
- (32:35) - Last Thoughts
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It’s Not an Oil Change: Using Divorce Road Map 2.0 with Karen Covy
Today we’re talking with Karen Covy, author of When Happily Ever After Ends: How to Survive Your Divorce Emotionally, Financially, and Legally. Karen has been working as a divorce professional for over 25 years as a mediator, attorney, arbitrator, decision coach and more. She’s come up with an online program called Divorce Road Map 2.0 that helps people navigate the challenges that come with divorce. Her mission as a divorce coach is to educate and empower people to get through their divorce with less damage, conflict and expense.
Karen joins Pete and Seth on the Toaster today to talk about how to learn how to better and more intelligently use your divorce attorney. It’s difficult to turn off that emotional decision-making tool in your brain so make sure you’re using your attorney to help you. Divorce is not an oil change, after all. There are lots of moving parts.
So tune in to hear this week’s conversation about learning to make decisions during your divorce.
Links & Notes
- Karen’s Website and The Divorce Road Map 2.0
- Karen’s Book ‘When Happily Ever After Ends: How to Survive Your Divorce Emotionally, Financially, and Legally
- Karen on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube
- (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
- (00:26) - Meet Karen Covy
- (02:19) - What Is Divorce Road Map 2.0?
- (06:57) - Understanding What Your Lawyer 'Can' Do
- (08:08) - Know Who You Are & Let Them Know
- (10:38) - Know What You Want
- (13:25) - When You Can't Decide
- (14:46) - Helping People Sort It Out
- (22:51) - Least Resistance Options
- (24:05) - Keep It Simple
- (26:40) - Sponsor: Soberlink
- (28:13) - Emotionally vs. Intellectually Disorganized
- (31:15) - Becoming a Better Divorce Client
- (34:30) - Remember: Your Lawyer Is Not Your Friend
- (35:23) - Interaction Expectations
- (36:27) - Finding Karen
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