
18 Miten | Life’s Trauma and the Healing Through Music
11/07/22 • 47 min
Today I have the pleasure to speak with Miten who I’ve known for almost 20 years through his and Deva’s music. Miten shares the traumas he’s experienced throughout his life and how he’s found the healing power of music.
Miten says:
‘If there is one thing, I would say that's helped me, that is to sing. And as much as I can, I tell people, not just our community who are into singing anyway, but... church choirs. Find a choir, find a Gospel choir, you know - sing! Because when you are singing, your heart starts to lift, your burden lift, your spirit lifts. It's not a joke, it's real and it's important and it's a commitment.’
The mantras hold a special place in my heart and my personal healing so I can highly recommend checking out their music on their website, Spotify or wherever you listen to music.
About this week’s guest
Miten was born in London and grew up in the 60s. He later went on to establish a successful career for himself in the 70s as a noted singer/songwriter, releasing several albums including one for Ariola Records under the guidance of legendary American producer Bones Howe. He toured extensively, opening for Fleetwood Mac, Randy Newman, Hall and Oats, Lou Reed, Ry Cooder, Fairport Convention, and The Kinks, among others. This period of his life was exciting but left him spiritually unfulfilled.
After reading a book of the discourses on Zen from Osho (No Water No Moon), Miten had an epiphany and began an inner search. He left everything he had known before, even selling his guitars, and traveled to India, embracing life as a member of the community that had gathered around Osho.
It was there he met his life partner, Deva Premal, and they are now renowned worldwide for their fusion of western music with Sanskrit mantras. Together they have presented their music in as many as 45 countries while accumulating accolades from such diverse admirers as Cher and HH the Dalai Lama, with album sales in excess of one million copies.
Website: Deva Premal and Miten
Topics discussed in this episode
- Childhood traumas
- Leaving behind his family, letting go of his life, his identity, and his career as a musician, and joining Osho’s ashram
- Healing through meditation, chanting, and being in presence of a Guru and finding music again
- Physical trauma of a double heart by-pass surgery
Resources mentioned in this episode
- Film: Mantra – Sounds Into Silence
- Tara Mangalartha Mantra with India Arie
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Today I have the pleasure to speak with Miten who I’ve known for almost 20 years through his and Deva’s music. Miten shares the traumas he’s experienced throughout his life and how he’s found the healing power of music.
Miten says:
‘If there is one thing, I would say that's helped me, that is to sing. And as much as I can, I tell people, not just our community who are into singing anyway, but... church choirs. Find a choir, find a Gospel choir, you know - sing! Because when you are singing, your heart starts to lift, your burden lift, your spirit lifts. It's not a joke, it's real and it's important and it's a commitment.’
The mantras hold a special place in my heart and my personal healing so I can highly recommend checking out their music on their website, Spotify or wherever you listen to music.
About this week’s guest
Miten was born in London and grew up in the 60s. He later went on to establish a successful career for himself in the 70s as a noted singer/songwriter, releasing several albums including one for Ariola Records under the guidance of legendary American producer Bones Howe. He toured extensively, opening for Fleetwood Mac, Randy Newman, Hall and Oats, Lou Reed, Ry Cooder, Fairport Convention, and The Kinks, among others. This period of his life was exciting but left him spiritually unfulfilled.
After reading a book of the discourses on Zen from Osho (No Water No Moon), Miten had an epiphany and began an inner search. He left everything he had known before, even selling his guitars, and traveled to India, embracing life as a member of the community that had gathered around Osho.
It was there he met his life partner, Deva Premal, and they are now renowned worldwide for their fusion of western music with Sanskrit mantras. Together they have presented their music in as many as 45 countries while accumulating accolades from such diverse admirers as Cher and HH the Dalai Lama, with album sales in excess of one million copies.
Website: Deva Premal and Miten
Topics discussed in this episode
- Childhood traumas
- Leaving behind his family, letting go of his life, his identity, and his career as a musician, and joining Osho’s ashram
- Healing through meditation, chanting, and being in presence of a Guru and finding music again
- Physical trauma of a double heart by-pass surgery
Resources mentioned in this episode
- Film: Mantra – Sounds Into Silence
- Tara Mangalartha Mantra with India Arie
Links
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17 Michael Gershe | The Loss of His Mother Through a Drunk Driver
Michael started with loss very early in his life when his mother got killed in a car accident leaving behind two boys and their father. Michael was 8 weeks old at the time and magically recovered after having almost all the bones in his tiny body broken.
It took Michael a big part of his life to figure out how to deal with grief, depression, and suicidal thoughts at the same time while creating a legacy by offering programs to create awareness in young people about drinking and driving.
Michael shares how working with a therapist helped him look at the ways in which he had modeled avoiding his feelings of grief and what tools supported him in overcoming his suicidal thoughts.
Michael says:
‘She hit me pretty hard the very first day when I was going in there thinking I’m going to talk about my aunt and my father's death. Her first question was: hey let’s talk about your mother's death and how that impacted all your relationships. I was like... I was stunned. I was like there's a knockout punch. I didn't want to talk about that even at age 47 I still didn't want to really talk about that in-depth, but she was right, I had to.’
About this week’s guest
Michael Gershe is a survivor of a drunk driving crash that killed his mother and nearly himself when he was 8 weeks old. Despite breaking almost all his bones in the crash, he went on to become a collegiate swimmer, comedian, speaker, author, college educator, and photographer. With over 25 years of experience on stage, Michael has presented his programs at schools, colleges, military bases, courts, and even a TEDx talk. He uses humor, audience participation, and his story for an educational and inspirational message. In 2015 he founded The Magic of Life Foundation, a non-profit organization, that helps his mission of eliminating impaired driving making communities safer, and empowering people to make better choices in life. In 2019, he published his memoir, The Magic of Life: A Son’s Story After Tragedy, Grief and a Speedo.
His website: The Magic of Life Foundation
Topics discussed in this episode
- Loss of mom, father, and aunt led to the understanding of what had been modeled about dealing or not dealing with grief
- Suicidal thoughts, depression
- Learning about healthy ways of grief, and anger, instead of hiding the pain
- Drunk driving – wanting to make a difference through his programs
Resources mentioned in this episode
- The Magic of Life Foundation
- EMDR Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing
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19 Joy Bornstein | Using Art to Cope with Loss and Trauma
Today on the podcast I’m speaking with Joy, who I've known since 2015 as part of the May We All Heal community. This community was born out of a group of women from the Grieving Parents Support Network. They came together year after year during the month of May to focus on dealing with their grief using creativity.
Joy has used a unique approach with her artwork, which can be seen on her Instagram channel.
Joy describes how she moved from feeling ashamed for disassociating from her pain, which was her coping mechanism to understanding and appreciating it as her survival strategy at the time.
Joy says:
‘You deal with it when you can. That is how you are surviving. That is how your brain is keeping you safe in a situation that is not safe so now it's like ‘oh yeah just disassociating, it's okay, I’ll deal with it later.’ I mean it doesn't mean it's easy to deal with but just knowing that yeah that's an ok thing to do for my brain to survive.’
About this week’s guest
Joy Bornstein uses art as a way to process everyday emotions and the long-term scars left by trauma. She is the mother of 3 living children, the mother of a stillborn son, Bennet, and a former victim of domestic abuse. Joy uses colour, line, and shape to explore emotions in a way that can't be expressed in words in an attempt to turn pain into beauty.
Joy’s Instagram: @fire_fly_joy
Topics discussed in this episode
- Stillbirth and physical trauma
- Shame around the coping strategy of disassociating
- Dissolving a marriage, domestic abuse, divorce, custody battles, and dealing with the children’s trauma
- May We All Heal – using art to cope with loss and trauma
Resources mentioned in this episode
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