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How Leaders Think with Kenny Lange - S2:E3 | How John Grubbs Thinks About Selling Like a Wolf

S2:E3 | How John Grubbs Thinks About Selling Like a Wolf

05/10/23 • 27 min

How Leaders Think with Kenny Lange

On this episode of the How Leaders Think podcast, John Grubbs shares his experience of quickly being promoted to a management position and leading a team with a diverse range of ages. He discusses the challenges he faced, including how to address sanctioned incompetence in a demoralizing workplace.

The conversation then shifts to Johns’s new book, “The Wolf Sales Model: Non-Relationship Selling," which focuses on the mindset, skills, and daily habits of a successful sales hunter. He also discusses the misconception that a client will buy from a salesperson if they become their friend first, and how the focus should be on offering value rather than creating a fake relationship.

John also shares practical advice for sales reps, including how to ask the right questions and avoid falling into the trap of doing the bare minimum in the workplace. Tune in to learn more about the Wolf Sales Model and how to become a successful sales hunter.

Resources:

The Wolf Sales Model book: https://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Sales-Model-Non-Relationship-Selling/dp/B0BCD4ZLWQ/r

[00:03:22] Carrot and stick management is outdated. Toxic workplace: lack of accountability. Coworkers cause disengagement.

[00:05:21] Lack of employee engagement and accountability causing disengagement in workplaces.

[00:07:13] Early promotion taught leader respect over being liked.

[00:10:05] Build value before friendship in sales. Don't be disingenuous. Relationship comes after the sale.

[00:11:32] Non-salespeople often have sales titles and are difficult to vet, leading to poor training outcomes.

[00:13:37] Sales teams struggle to stay in discovery mode and uncover buyer emotions, leading to a lack of hunting skills in sales.

[00:17:21] To effectively sell, ask open-ended questions and use calibrated language, such as "it seems like."

[00:18:48] The article discusses how sales reps can dig deeper by asking the right questions and using labels. They are also advised to ask permission to take notes and clarify any misunderstandings. A false label may be used to re-engage an uninterested customer.

[00:21:24] Creating a powerful sales statement with a focus on differentiation.

[00:25:08] Find John Grubbs at JohnGrubbs.com or by searching for The Wolf Sales Model/ training. Focus on improving mindset, skills, and habits to be successful in sales. Try staying in question mode during meetings to improve discovery skills.

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On this episode of the How Leaders Think podcast, John Grubbs shares his experience of quickly being promoted to a management position and leading a team with a diverse range of ages. He discusses the challenges he faced, including how to address sanctioned incompetence in a demoralizing workplace.

The conversation then shifts to Johns’s new book, “The Wolf Sales Model: Non-Relationship Selling," which focuses on the mindset, skills, and daily habits of a successful sales hunter. He also discusses the misconception that a client will buy from a salesperson if they become their friend first, and how the focus should be on offering value rather than creating a fake relationship.

John also shares practical advice for sales reps, including how to ask the right questions and avoid falling into the trap of doing the bare minimum in the workplace. Tune in to learn more about the Wolf Sales Model and how to become a successful sales hunter.

Resources:

The Wolf Sales Model book: https://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Sales-Model-Non-Relationship-Selling/dp/B0BCD4ZLWQ/r

[00:03:22] Carrot and stick management is outdated. Toxic workplace: lack of accountability. Coworkers cause disengagement.

[00:05:21] Lack of employee engagement and accountability causing disengagement in workplaces.

[00:07:13] Early promotion taught leader respect over being liked.

[00:10:05] Build value before friendship in sales. Don't be disingenuous. Relationship comes after the sale.

[00:11:32] Non-salespeople often have sales titles and are difficult to vet, leading to poor training outcomes.

[00:13:37] Sales teams struggle to stay in discovery mode and uncover buyer emotions, leading to a lack of hunting skills in sales.

[00:17:21] To effectively sell, ask open-ended questions and use calibrated language, such as "it seems like."

[00:18:48] The article discusses how sales reps can dig deeper by asking the right questions and using labels. They are also advised to ask permission to take notes and clarify any misunderstandings. A false label may be used to re-engage an uninterested customer.

[00:21:24] Creating a powerful sales statement with a focus on differentiation.

[00:25:08] Find John Grubbs at JohnGrubbs.com or by searching for The Wolf Sales Model/ training. Focus on improving mindset, skills, and habits to be successful in sales. Try staying in question mode during meetings to improve discovery skills.

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S2:E2 | How Jonathan D. Reynolds Thinks About Overcoming Achievement Addiction

On this episode of How Leaders Think, my guest emphasizes the importance of celebrating goals and milestones. They suggest looking at the entire calendar year to identify points to celebrate and acknowledge that there will be multiple false summits along the way to a goal.

The guest is Jonathan D. Reynolds, a CEO and best-selling author, who shares his perspective on celebrating accomplishments and navigating the tension between celebrating the present and painting a desirable future.

Jonathan explores practical ways to incorporate celebrations into daily life and suggests starting with small steps like celebrating someone who has made an impact. High-drive leaders often struggle to take a break or celebrate because it seems like a lack of commitment to growth, but self-awareness is crucial for preventing exhaustion and demotivation among team members.

Resources:
Jonathan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanreynolds/
Jonathan's Book, "Right Seats, Right People: A Leader's Guide to Hiring and Developing Top Performers": https://a.co/d/0RXmbh3

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[00:05:49] "Balancing Future Vision with Present Gratitude"

[00:08:53] "Discover Your Unique Personality Profile Statistic"

[00:12:33] Budgeting for Celebration: Importance of Pausing to Celebrate

[00:18:44] "Intrinsic Motivation: Emphasizing the Importance of Celebration"

[00:22:14] "Uncomfortable growth: Celebrating success along the way"

[00:26:25] "Small Gestures of Gratitude: Superpowers in Action"

[00:30:41] "A Visionary Editor's Bold Hiring Mistake"

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S2:E4 | How Andy Christiansen Thinks About The Superpower of Being Interested in People

In this episode of How Leaders Think, we explore the importance of autonomy and accountability for employees to feel motivated. We also delve into the hiring and retention crises facing many companies and how investing in employees can make a significant difference in the workplace. My guest, Andy Christiansen, emphasizes that being interested in others is crucial to good leadership and the importance of listening and being other-centered. We also touch on the false stories that leaders may believe about the world and the power of recognition and valuing employees. Join us as we discuss strategies for building relationships in the workplace and improving team morale.

Resources:

Andy's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andychristiansenpcc/

Andy's Book "The 40:40 Principle: Your Road Map to Finding Life-Changing Mentors": https://www.amazon.com/40-Principle-Finding-Life-Changing-Mentors/dp/1449700713/

Peter Drucker books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Peter-F.-Drucker/author/B000AP61TE

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[00:09:00] "Unlocking the Power of Listening: One Cup at a Time"

[00:12:00] Investing in People: The Solution to Hiring and Retention Crisis?

[00:19:00] "Back to Basics: The Simple Secret to Employee Engagement"

[00:25:56] "People Want to Win": The Importance of Leadership

[00:30:56] "Make Meaningful Connections: Hear Their Stories Today"

[00:35:44] "Prioritizing One-on-Ones Leads to Business Success"

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