DeepSeek DeepDive + Hands-On With Operator + Hot Mess Express!

01/31/25 • 65 min

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This week we go even deeper on DeepSeek. ChinaTalk's Jordan Schneider joins us to explain the Chinese A.I. industry and to break down the reaction inside of China to DeepSeek’s sudden success. Then ... hello, Operator! We put OpenAI’s new agent software to the test. And finally, all aboard for another ride on the Hot Mess Express!

Guest:

Jordan Schneider, founder and editor in chief of ChinaTalk

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Jordan Schneider, founder and editor in chief of ChinaTalk

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Your Guide to the DeepSeek Freakout: an Emergency Pod

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A Chinese firm called DeepSeek managed to upend global markets at the start of the week, to drag down chipmaker Nvidia — and to surge to No. 1 in the iPhone app store, all in basically no time at all.

Today, in this bonus episode, we talk through the news behind the freakout. How is a new A.I. model from one Chinese A.I. company making such a big splash? And what does it mean for the U.S. artificial intelligence industry?

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Guests:

Jonathan Swan, a White House reporter for The New York Times
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