
Ep. 23 Separation Brings Us Closer (Song: How Some Stories Go)
07/28/21 • 19 min
Space is hard space is good
you need it, but you don't want to be misunderstood
It's not easy to make it or take it
but something's nagging and you just can't shake it
You want to look but it's scary to see
everything's choking and you need to breathe
If you stop for a moment,
the image you've been trying so hard to hold together
might shatter and fall
Wouldn't it be better to keep it all in
and love through these pretenses and walls?
You know there's risk either way,
but you have to move when the heart calls.
Separation might take us further apart,
but it brings us closer, closer after all.
In this episode, we dive into separation, a necessary and vital alchemical phase that helps us know ourselves as individuals so we can be a clearer part of the whole.
- What is separation and how does it show up in our individual alchemy as well as our relationship alchemy?
- How can separation help us heal division in ourselves and relationships?
- Signs of separation: conflict with or needing space from loved ones, feeling the need for alone time, feeling the need to get real about your part and understand your truth in any situation, partnership, creative project etc.
- Symbols and images of separation: air, wind, space, gaps, divides, divorce, sharp tools like swords, knives, extractions tools
- Example of how I've applied separation in my life
- How to make it through a challenging separation phase
At 14:20 I share my original song "How Some Stories Go" written during a really difficult relational separation that taught me the importance of holding tension of not knowing in order to allow the deeper soul story to unfold in time
With love,
McCall
- Read The Terrible, Beautiful Truth on Substack
- Stay connected through my Email List
- Get a copy of my NEW book Down from the Mountain directly from me
- Read or listen to my new book Down from the Mountain
- Read or Listen to my first book The Second Half of the Mountain: A Guide to Personal Alchemy after Awakening
Space is hard space is good
you need it, but you don't want to be misunderstood
It's not easy to make it or take it
but something's nagging and you just can't shake it
You want to look but it's scary to see
everything's choking and you need to breathe
If you stop for a moment,
the image you've been trying so hard to hold together
might shatter and fall
Wouldn't it be better to keep it all in
and love through these pretenses and walls?
You know there's risk either way,
but you have to move when the heart calls.
Separation might take us further apart,
but it brings us closer, closer after all.
In this episode, we dive into separation, a necessary and vital alchemical phase that helps us know ourselves as individuals so we can be a clearer part of the whole.
- What is separation and how does it show up in our individual alchemy as well as our relationship alchemy?
- How can separation help us heal division in ourselves and relationships?
- Signs of separation: conflict with or needing space from loved ones, feeling the need for alone time, feeling the need to get real about your part and understand your truth in any situation, partnership, creative project etc.
- Symbols and images of separation: air, wind, space, gaps, divides, divorce, sharp tools like swords, knives, extractions tools
- Example of how I've applied separation in my life
- How to make it through a challenging separation phase
At 14:20 I share my original song "How Some Stories Go" written during a really difficult relational separation that taught me the importance of holding tension of not knowing in order to allow the deeper soul story to unfold in time
With love,
McCall
- Read The Terrible, Beautiful Truth on Substack
- Stay connected through my Email List
- Get a copy of my NEW book Down from the Mountain directly from me
- Read or listen to my new book Down from the Mountain
- Read or Listen to my first book The Second Half of the Mountain: A Guide to Personal Alchemy after Awakening
Previous Episode

Ep. 22 "The Messy Reality of Embodied Living"
"Perfectionism is the attempted tyranny of a concept over the messy reality of embodied living." -Anthony LawlorIn this episode I explore the progression of perfectionism in my alchemical journey
- First as a way to survive and cope with trauma.
- Then as a way to buffer me from the raw experience of life and perhaps try to control how other people saw me so I could ensure their approval and love.
- Next as a tension to constantly transmute in order to keep me in creative flow with my soul.
I get real about how making this podcast has challenged me to face and transmute my perfectionism in ways I couldn't do ten years ago when I tried to record my music.
At the end, I announce some new projects that I'm currently working on.
With love from the deep end of messy and embodied living,
McCall
Quick quotes from the show:What is real, precious, and truly golden inside me does not give a shit about my perfectionism.
Thinking there’s a right way to do anything and someone other than you knows what that is and you should give all your time and energy to figure it out can really fuck over your soul. Trusting your own direct, non-conceptual experience, not as the right way, but as the way that’s flowing, as the way that's happening for now will save your soul.
"Perfectionism is the attempted tyranny of a concept over the messy reality of embodied living." -Anthony Lawlor"You lose your grip and then you slip into the masterpiece." Leonard Cohen , A Thousand Kisses Deep
Click here to read or listen to my book The Second Half of the Mountain: A Guide to Personal Alchemy After Awakening-->Click here for 20% off audiobook
- Read The Terrible, Beautiful Truth on Substack
- Stay connected through my Email List
- Get a copy of my NEW book Down from the Mountain directly from me
- Read or listen to my new book Down from the Mountain
- Read or Listen to my first book The Second Half of the Mountain: A Guide to Personal Alchemy after Awakening
Next Episode

Ep. 24 Space to Be (Song: A Better Me)
Allow, allow, allow. Everything, every being, every process has its own wisdom and magic. I am learning to not interfere, to let it be, let it work its magic. I honestly think this is love: space to be. Love is when you let it be. Let it be, allow, receive.
I built this episode around a song I wrote when I left my music career in 2010--specifically the line "I just need some space to be who I am."
I call this The Song That Started It All because it set me on the final and brutal climb of my second half of the mountain journey where I had to go through the dark nights of the spirit and distillation to come to the gates of surrender and walk through.
Exploring the BEING space:
- What does it mean to actually BE our authentic selves in any given moment?
- Why is it so hard to give ourselves space to be?
- What gets in the way of us extending this love to ourselves and others?
- What can come from being in the space of surrender? What magic happens there?
With love for those in the far reaches,
McCall
www.McCallErickson.com
Click here to read or listen to my book The Second Half of the Mountain: A Guide to Personal Alchemy After Awakening
- Read The Terrible, Beautiful Truth on Substack
- Stay connected through my Email List
- Get a copy of my NEW book Down from the Mountain directly from me
- Read or listen to my new book Down from the Mountain
- Read or Listen to my first book The Second Half of the Mountain: A Guide to Personal Alchemy after Awakening
Falling Into Soul - Ep. 23 Separation Brings Us Closer (Song: How Some Stories Go)
Transcript
Space is hard space is good, you need it,
but you don't want to be misunderstood
It's not easy to make it or take it
But something's nagging and you just can't shake it
You want to look but it's scary to see
everything's choking and you need to breathe
If you stop for a moment,
the image you've been trying so hard to hold together
might shatter and fall
Wouldn't it be better to keep it all in
and love through these pretenses and walls?
You know there's ri
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