
Ep. 75 - Healing Through Food with Nutritionist Karen Hurd
12/27/19 • 117 min
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“It’s the most accessible form of healing I’ve ever heard of on the planet. You take no supplements, and you’re eating simple food. It’s such a different version of a protocol of eating food.” - Lacy
“That’s what I want to do is just give knowledge to people. I don’t need them to buy supplements, I don’t need them to spend thousands of dollars. Just get the knowledge, and apply the knowledge.” - Karen
“What I really want to stress for people tuning in is two things. You really see the progress in three-month cycles because that’s how our endocrine systems work. It’s more of a long game. The second thing is the coolest thing is that it's the cheapest way to heal on the planet.” - Lacy
In today’s episode, Karen Hurd joins Lacy on the show to talk about her protocol that Lacy has been following for the past few months. Karen shares the personal story that led her to develop this protocol and expanding the course of her education. They talk about how beans help to remove toxins from the body, as well as what contributes to common health issues and what we can do about them.
In This Episode We Talk About:
- Lacy’s health journey
- How she found out about Karen Hurd’s protocol
- What she loves about Karen’s protocol
- Lacy’s personal improvements since starting this protocol
- Karen’s personal experience that led her to the discovery/development
of her protocol - The pushback she received from the medical community during her
daughter’s illness - Her daughter’s healing with soluble fiber
- How this experience led her to start nutritional training and her
education in biochemistry - The liver’s role in clearing toxins from the body
- Where we absorb fats in our body and why it worked against Ruth’s
situation - Why beans are the solution and how they help remove toxins
- Common problems with the thyroid and things that contribute to them
- Top issues with the GI tract and what contributes to them
- The accessibility of Karen’s courses
- Auto-immune dysfunctions as a scapegoat
- Karen’s thoughts on Lyme disease and how you can develop your own
immunity - Adverse effects of sugar and caffeine that people may not realize
- Some common neurological issues and brain chemistry
- Issues that contribute to diabetes and how it can be reversed or
controlled with protocol - Unexplained infertility and the factors that contribute to the
ripeness of the eggs - What’s happening with PCOS and endometriosis
- Supplements as cellular mediators, and how they can be problematic
- Gene mutations and environmental factors
- How carbon and hydrogen bond to form saturated or unsaturated fats
- Different types of oils and which are best for you
- How blue light and exercise can have adverse effects on your system
- What contributes to aging and how we can reverse the aging process
- Using oil as a substitute for nuts if you have a food allergy
- Acne is a soluble fiber issue
- What causes facial hair for women
- A separate protocol for your lymph system and immune system
- Some signs that the protocol is working and things are improving
- The courses Karen has available and what’s coming out in the future
- Why we have to be in the process for the long game
Resources:
- To Be Magnetic
- Instagram: @tobemagnetic
- Newsletter
- A la Carte Workshops
- The Forest Retreat House
- Instagram: @theforestretreathouse
- Book The Forest Retreat House for a Promo Price
- Lacy Phillips Live: The Manifestation Tour (MEMBER for $15 off)
- Daily Reprogramming Challenge
- The Pathway Membership 2.0 (use code EXPANDED for $20 off)
- Free Clarity Exercise
Lacy’s Intro
“It’s the most accessible form of healing I’ve ever heard of on the planet. You take no supplements, and you’re eating simple food. It’s such a different version of a protocol of eating food.” - Lacy
“That’s what I want to do is just give knowledge to people. I don’t need them to buy supplements, I don’t need them to spend thousands of dollars. Just get the knowledge, and apply the knowledge.” - Karen
“What I really want to stress for people tuning in is two things. You really see the progress in three-month cycles because that’s how our endocrine systems work. It’s more of a long game. The second thing is the coolest thing is that it's the cheapest way to heal on the planet.” - Lacy
In today’s episode, Karen Hurd joins Lacy on the show to talk about her protocol that Lacy has been following for the past few months. Karen shares the personal story that led her to develop this protocol and expanding the course of her education. They talk about how beans help to remove toxins from the body, as well as what contributes to common health issues and what we can do about them.
In This Episode We Talk About:
- Lacy’s health journey
- How she found out about Karen Hurd’s protocol
- What she loves about Karen’s protocol
- Lacy’s personal improvements since starting this protocol
- Karen’s personal experience that led her to the discovery/development
of her protocol - The pushback she received from the medical community during her
daughter’s illness - Her daughter’s healing with soluble fiber
- How this experience led her to start nutritional training and her
education in biochemistry - The liver’s role in clearing toxins from the body
- Where we absorb fats in our body and why it worked against Ruth’s
situation - Why beans are the solution and how they help remove toxins
- Common problems with the thyroid and things that contribute to them
- Top issues with the GI tract and what contributes to them
- The accessibility of Karen’s courses
- Auto-immune dysfunctions as a scapegoat
- Karen’s thoughts on Lyme disease and how you can develop your own
immunity - Adverse effects of sugar and caffeine that people may not realize
- Some common neurological issues and brain chemistry
- Issues that contribute to diabetes and how it can be reversed or
controlled with protocol - Unexplained infertility and the factors that contribute to the
ripeness of the eggs - What’s happening with PCOS and endometriosis
- Supplements as cellular mediators, and how they can be problematic
- Gene mutations and environmental factors
- How carbon and hydrogen bond to form saturated or unsaturated fats
- Different types of oils and which are best for you
- How blue light and exercise can have adverse effects on your system
- What contributes to aging and how we can reverse the aging process
- Using oil as a substitute for nuts if you have a food allergy
- Acne is a soluble fiber issue
- What causes facial hair for women
- A separate protocol for your lymph system and immune system
- Some signs that the protocol is working and things are improving
- The courses Karen has available and what’s coming out in the future
- Why we have to be in the process for the long game
Resources:
- To Be Magnetic
- Instagram: @tobemagnetic
- Newsletter
- A la Carte Workshops
- The Forest Retreat House
- Instagram: @theforestretreathouse
- Book The Forest Retreat House for a Promo Price
- Lacy Phillips Live: The Manifestation Tour (MEMBER for $15 off)
- Daily Reprogramming Challenge
- The Pathway Membership 2.0 (use code EXPANDED for $20 off)
- Free Clarity Exercise
Lacy’s Intro
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“It would help a little bit here and there, but it actually debilitated me a lot more than it helped me because I stayed in my comfort zone, I wasn’t actually changing anything in my life. Instead of dealing with the things that were making me sad, fearful - I was being preventing in that model because I was trying to be more positive, more loving.” - Lacy
“When you do steps that walk through fear that put you into your worth, you’re communicating very loudly that you’re afraid, but know you are worth more than this. Getting into our most whole authentic, worthy selves is true magnetism.” - Lacy
“This process is all about getting really real with who you are authentically when you take off all of the messaging and the layers that have been put on you. Then you do the work to get really confident and deserving about who that is.” - Lacy
In this episode, Lacy and Jessica get back to basics on what manifestation is, and some of the specifics of Lacy’s grounded process. Lacy talks about her own journey of developing this method, and both ladies share stories and experiences of their own work. There are recommended tools for people at different stages of manifestation. This is a great episode to summarize the process and get you started on your own manifestation journey, or if you’re doing the work already, share with a friend who is new.
In This Episode We Talk About:
- Yule holiday celebration
- Taking time to reflect on manifestations over the past year
- A quick recap of how Lacy developed this method of manifestation
- What wasn’t working with other models of manifestation (law of
attraction, think positive) - The shift to focusing on self-worth
- How her magnetism increased when Lacy started honoring her gifts
- The energetics of raising self-worth, while meeting neuroscience and
psychology - Taking a leap of faith in manifestation, and how that affects
self-worth - What self-worth means to Jessica
- The polarity of the human condition (healthy vs toxic shame)
- How your worth catches up to your actions
- Practical manifestation
- How the work helps us get in touch with who we really are and what
our standards are - Emphasis on hypnosis in Lacy’s process through the deep imaginings
- Whole-brain integration
- How you can incorporate this work with the work you do with your
regular therapist - The three main components of this manifestation process: unblocking, expanding, and passing tests
- How each component plays out as you are manifesting
- Different ways tests can present themselves
- Finding worth in your full authenticity
- Three ways to figure out if something is presenting as a test
- A walk-through of a Deep Imagining with Jessica
- Finding empathy and boundaries in a DI
- Lacy and Jessica’s advice on some different scenarios of this work
- Micro-manifestations to build trust muscle
- Tricks to getting clarity
- Recommended tools for different blocks
- Foundational basics of manifestation
- The flexibility of the manifestation work to make it work for you and
your schedule - Tools for people who are dealing with insecurities in body image
#Resources:
- To Be Magnetic
- Instagram: @tobemagnetic
- Newsletter
- The Pathway (use code EXPANDED for $10 off your first month of the Pathway 2.0 or $20 off any 2.0 ala carte course)
- A la Carte Workshops
- The Forest Retreat House
- Instagram: @theforestretreathouse
- Book The Forest Retreat House for a Promo Price
- Lacy Phillips Live: The Manifestation Tour (MEMBER for $15 off)
- Daily Reprogramming Challenge
- Free Clarity Exercise
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“An expander must encompass this checklist: 1. They’ve been in the exact place you are now 2. They’ve gone on to become successful in, own, or embody what you’re calling in 3. Their success track seems attainable to you and 4. They give you an ah-ha moment.” - Lacy
“Expanders are just us getting back to our authentic selves, the selves that we were born with.” - Lacy
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In the second installment of the EXPLAINED series, Lacy and Jessica break down the origin of the podcast name: Expanders. In this episode, they talk about what expanders are, where to find them, and how to utilize them in your process. They also share some of their own expanders in different facets of life, and why it’s so important to find expanders in order to Manifest.
In This Episode We Talk About:
- Some more updates and improvements since being on the protocol
- Some jewelry Lacy has been manifesting
- The definition of expanders and the origin of the term
- The importance of seeing to believe
- A checklist of things to look for in an expander
- How you know you’ve been expanded
- Expanders as a tool to get us back to our whole authentic selves
- How to utilize a fragment expander
- The different varieties of expanders
- Having different levels of expanders depending on where you are in
the process - Working from the big picture down to more specific expanders
- Finding expanders in your own perimeter
- The definition of a reality expander
- The difference between jealousy and envy
- How to use envy expanders correctly
- What it means when an expander is triggering us
- What a mini-expander might look like for someone
- Lacy’s own experience finding expanders to launch something that
didn’t exist before - The energetic difference of looking to expanders for inspiration and
copying your expander - Extracting and taking on the essence from an expander that really
lights up your soul - Lacy and Jessica’s financial expanders
- Lacy and Jessica’s relationship expanders
- Important things to know about being an artist
- Finding expanders when you’re on the fringes
- Owning your authenticity
- Expanding to create space for the things you do want in your life
Resources:
- To Be Magnetic
- Instagram: @tobemagnetic
- Newsletter
- The Forest Retreat House
- Instagram: @theforestretreathouse
- Book The Forest Retreat House for a Promo Price
- Lacy Phillips Live: The Manifestation Tour (MEMBER for $15 off)
- The Pathway Membership 2.0 (use code EXPANDED for $20 off)
- Free Clarity Exercise
- The Free Expander Mini Workshop
Lacy’s Intro
- Karen Hurd Protocol
- Expanded Ep 75 x Karen Hurd
- Completed Manifestation List with Car
- Book The Forest Retreat House for a Promo Price
- Kristin Dahl Nutritional Chef
- Alisa Vitti
- Unique Hammond
- Alpaca Gifted Sweater
- Alexa de la Cruz Gold Ring
- Cartier Trinity Rings
- Cartier Trinity Necklace
- Ramsey Conder Gold Ring
- Pearl Talisman Ring
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