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Every Rom Com - Every Rom Com 64: Some Kind of Wonderful

Every Rom Com 64: Some Kind of Wonderful

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07/01/23 • 154 min

Every Rom Com

“Some Kind of Wonderful” may be the last of the John Hughes teen rom coms, but it’s first in our hearts! This week Sophia and Jen are joined by Neil, the man behind the popular Twitter account @neilbelieves, to discuss one of our favorites, as we continue our High School Movies series! We’ll look into the troubled development phase of the movie, which temporarily drew in another legendary director; we’ll explore the careers of Mary Stuart Masterson, Eric Stoltz, and Lea Thompson; we’ll discuss the movie’s spectacular “kiss that kills”; and we’ll talk about high school movie tropes from over-the-top detentions to truly horrible bullies! Plus, check out our unexpected, decades-too-late sequel idea!

0:00-13:06 Introduction. Introducing Neil from @neilbelieves on Twitter!

Guest Introduction:

Neil is passionately drawn to John Hughes films and 80’s cinema in general. He’s also an amateur photographer with a love for food, adventure, and witty banter! You can find Neil on Twitter @Neilbelieves and also on Instagram at @Neilwbphotography!

Find Neil here:

Twitter @Neilbelieves

Instagram @Neilwbphotography

Support Every Rom Com Here:

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/everyromcom

13:06-26:00 TRAILER, Basic Info, Interesting Facts

Sources For Interesting Facts:

https://ew.com/movies/2019/02/11/john-hughes-some-kind-of-wonderful-oral-history/

https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/some-kind-of-wonderful-howard-deutch/

https://www.laweekly.com/the-l-a-of-john-hughes-some-kind-of-wonderful-30-years-later/

Books:

You Couldn’t Ignore Me If You Tried: The Brat Pack, John Hughes, and Their Impact On A Generation, by Susannah Gora

John Hughes: A Life In Film by Kirk Honeycutt

26:00-31:34 General Opinion

31:34-45:54 Cast & Crew In-Depth

More On Lea Thompson:

https://www.hollywood.com/general/lea-thompson-thanks-mikhail-baryshnikov-for-acting-career-59561786

45:54-55:03 Opening Sequence, Keith’s Family Life

55:03-1:11:50 Intro to Watts, Hardy And Amanda, Neil’s High School Life, Class In High School

1:11:50-1:21:49 Keith Tells Watts About Amanda, Having A Crush On A Friend, Hardy At The Gas Station

1:21:49-1:30:39 Detention, Keith And Watts Talk, Locker Room

1:30:39-1:44:47 Keith Asks Out Amanda, Family Dinner, Aftermath Of Keith Asking Amanda Out, Club Scene

1:44:47-1:52:57 The Kiss That Kills

1:52:57 SPOILERS BEGIN

1:52:57-1:59:42 Getting Ready Montage, Keith’s Dad Confronts Him

1:59:42-2:24:33 The Date, Hardy’s Party, End Of The Film, The Soundtrack

Match The Songs With The SKOW Scenes:

https://www.somekindofwonderful.org/soundtrack.html

2:24:33-2:34:19 Double Feature Recommendations

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“Some Kind of Wonderful” may be the last of the John Hughes teen rom coms, but it’s first in our hearts! This week Sophia and Jen are joined by Neil, the man behind the popular Twitter account @neilbelieves, to discuss one of our favorites, as we continue our High School Movies series! We’ll look into the troubled development phase of the movie, which temporarily drew in another legendary director; we’ll explore the careers of Mary Stuart Masterson, Eric Stoltz, and Lea Thompson; we’ll discuss the movie’s spectacular “kiss that kills”; and we’ll talk about high school movie tropes from over-the-top detentions to truly horrible bullies! Plus, check out our unexpected, decades-too-late sequel idea!

0:00-13:06 Introduction. Introducing Neil from @neilbelieves on Twitter!

Guest Introduction:

Neil is passionately drawn to John Hughes films and 80’s cinema in general. He’s also an amateur photographer with a love for food, adventure, and witty banter! You can find Neil on Twitter @Neilbelieves and also on Instagram at @Neilwbphotography!

Find Neil here:

Twitter @Neilbelieves

Instagram @Neilwbphotography

Support Every Rom Com Here:

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/everyromcom

13:06-26:00 TRAILER, Basic Info, Interesting Facts

Sources For Interesting Facts:

https://ew.com/movies/2019/02/11/john-hughes-some-kind-of-wonderful-oral-history/

https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/some-kind-of-wonderful-howard-deutch/

https://www.laweekly.com/the-l-a-of-john-hughes-some-kind-of-wonderful-30-years-later/

Books:

You Couldn’t Ignore Me If You Tried: The Brat Pack, John Hughes, and Their Impact On A Generation, by Susannah Gora

John Hughes: A Life In Film by Kirk Honeycutt

26:00-31:34 General Opinion

31:34-45:54 Cast & Crew In-Depth

More On Lea Thompson:

https://www.hollywood.com/general/lea-thompson-thanks-mikhail-baryshnikov-for-acting-career-59561786

45:54-55:03 Opening Sequence, Keith’s Family Life

55:03-1:11:50 Intro to Watts, Hardy And Amanda, Neil’s High School Life, Class In High School

1:11:50-1:21:49 Keith Tells Watts About Amanda, Having A Crush On A Friend, Hardy At The Gas Station

1:21:49-1:30:39 Detention, Keith And Watts Talk, Locker Room

1:30:39-1:44:47 Keith Asks Out Amanda, Family Dinner, Aftermath Of Keith Asking Amanda Out, Club Scene

1:44:47-1:52:57 The Kiss That Kills

1:52:57 SPOILERS BEGIN

1:52:57-1:59:42 Getting Ready Montage, Keith’s Dad Confronts Him

1:59:42-2:24:33 The Date, Hardy’s Party, End Of The Film, The Soundtrack

Match The Songs With The SKOW Scenes:

https://www.somekindofwonderful.org/soundtrack.html

2:24:33-2:34:19 Double Feature Recommendations

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undefined - Every Rom Com 63: Can't Hardly Wait

Every Rom Com 63: Can't Hardly Wait

This week, join all 4 original hosts of Every Rom Com as we kick off our High School movies series by celebrating the 25th anniversary of “Can’t Hardly Wait”! Find out which characters ended up on the cutting room floor, which actor was so stoned he couldn’t remember shooting the movie, and which future stars showed up in minor roles! Plus, we start the whole show off with a high school movies trivia quiz and later get personal and share who we were in our senior years! Whether you were a ‘Denise Fleming’, an ‘Amanda Beckett’, or, maybe especially, a ‘Yearbook Girl’, there’s something for you in this episode!

0:00-17:22 Intro To The High School Series, High School Movies TRIVIA QUIZ!

More On History Of Teenagers:

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2018/02/brief-history-teenagers/

Paula Abdul “Rush, Rush” Video Featuring Keanu Reeves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyIaNWP0T0

Click Here To Support The Show!:

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/everyromcom

17:22-27:00 TRAILER, Basic Info, Interesting Facts

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2018/6/11/17442324/cant-hardly-wait-20th-anniversary

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/80481/10-fateful-facts-about-cant-hardly-wait

https://www.vh1.com/news/ecgx83/ethan-embry-cant-hardly-wait

https://entertainment.time.com/2013/06/12/back-to-the-party-15-things-you-didnt-know-about-cant-hardly-wait/

Other Information From DVD Extras

27:00-33:23 General Opinion

33:23-46:02 Cast & Crew In-Depth

For more information on writers/directors Harry Elfont and Deborah Kaplan:

https://www.everyromcom.com/podcast-1/episode/1b1588d7/every-rom-com-9-leap-year

More Information On Jennifer Love Hewitt:

https://www.biography.com/actors/jennifer-love-hewitt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_Jennifer_Love_Hewitt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UKafpb-Ps8&list=PLO4L0qZvEnVDtr5oZ2AzAomN6CpHzF-RN

https://web.archive.org/web/20130916042620/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/jennifer-love-hewitt/biography

https://deadline.com/2023/02/i-know-what-you-did-last-summer-sony-jennifer-kaytin-robinson-jennifer-love-hewitt-freddie-prinze-jr-1235250808/

46:02-55:19 Opening Of The Movie, Preston And Denise, Preston’s Crush On Amanda

55:19-1:05:20 Intro Mike Dexter, Intro William Lichter, Intro Kenny Fisher

More Information On Charlie Korsmo:

https://case.edu/law/our-school/faculty-directory/charles-korsmo

https://people.com/movies/charlie-korsmo-hook-dick-tracy-law-professor/#:~:text=After%20graduating%20from%20M.I.T.%2C%20Korsmo,Western%20Reserve%20University%20in%20Cleveland.

Article On White Kids Pretending To Be Black From 1993 (CW: Allusion To Racist Language):

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/wiggers-just-wannabe-black-white-middleclass-kids-are-adopting-black-street-style-and-chilling-out-to-rap-music-david-usborne-reports-from-washington-1462591.html

1:05:20-1:14:38 The Party And Side Characters, Amanda Beckett Intro,

1:14:38-1:27:48 Every Rom Com Hosts’ “High School Yearbook Portraits”

1:27:48 SPOILERS BEGIN

1:27:48-...

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undefined - Every Rom Com 65: Sixteen Candles

Every Rom Com 65: Sixteen Candles

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This week on Every Rom Com we’re diving deep on the first of the John Hughes teen rom coms, “Sixteen Candles”! We’ll discuss the cultural associations with turning sixteen, as well as the enduring charm of Molly Ringwald, and how Jake Ryan became one of the most memorable and desirable cinematic love interests. We’ll also dig into several ways this movie hasn’t aged well, from sexual harassment and rape culture, to the complex layers of Gedde Watanabe’s portrayal of the foreign exchange student, Long Duk Dong. This is our longest episode yet, but don’t miss this in-depth episode on a high school movie that helped define an entire genre!

0:00-9:39 Introduction - Favorite High School Movies/TV Shows

Visit us here: https://www.everyromcom.com/

Help us out here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/everyromcom

9:39-21:00 TRAILER, Basic Info, Interesting Facts

You Couldn’t Ignore Me If You Tried: The Brat Pack, John Hughes, and Their Impact on a Generation, by Susannah Gora

https://www.slashfilm.com/800505/15-candles-selena-gomez-gabriela-revilla-lugo-and-tanya-saracho-developing-john-hughes-remix-series/

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink

https://www.rogerebert.com/interviews/john-hughes-in-memory

21:00-26:58 General Opinion

26:58-45:51 Cast & Crew In-Depth

More Information On John Hughes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/movies/08appraisal.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/12/opinion/12ringwald.html?searchResultPosition=1

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/07/movies/07hughesobit.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer

https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Hughes-American-film-director

More Information On Molly Ringwald:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-05-08-tv-55079-story.html

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/apr/24/i-was-projected-as-the-sweet-american-girl-next-door-it-wasnt-me-molly-ringwald-bites-back

https://iammollyringwald.com/acting

Gedde Watanabe’s YouTube show, “The Disappointments”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntB93GM4fJQ&list=PLLKvJ_deH9k5gR0xwDSgtY7bu867nt-ja&index=4

Gedde Watanabe on “Sesame Street”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UeMi5r3lp4

More Information On Michael Schoeffling:

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/stars-who-left-hollywood-behind-through-the-years/

45:51-58:55 Opening Of The Film, Samantha And High School Insecurities, Intro To The Family

58:55-1:18:42 Opening Credits High School Montage, Study Hall With Jake Ryan, Locker Room, Cultural Significance Of Turning Sixteen

The First Reference I Could Find To The Phrase “Sweet Sixteen”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_You_Were_Sweet_Sixteen#:~:text=%22When%20You%20Were%20Sweet%20Sixteen,a%20hit%20song%20in%20vaudeville.

Interesting 1978 Article On “Sweet Sixteen” Parties:

https://www.nytimes.com/1978/01/04/archives/sweet-sixteen-a-rite-that-persists-the-party-originated-as-a-way-of.html

1:18:42-1:26:45 The Bus And...

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