DeRazzled 2nd Unit - Superman Lives, Part 1 - The Trump of Hollywood

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09/13/22 • 96 min

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For our latest venture into Development Hell, we take on one of the biggest, most infamous examples of a film that never came to be: Tim Burton's Superman Lives. In the first part of our deepest dive yet, we start most people's first exposure to the story, Kevin Smith's story of getting hired to write the script. We examine Smith's story and dissect his script, but to really lay the groundwork for this tale we need to get to know the producer who hired Smith to begin with, Jon Peters. We relive the most intense and absurd of their filming experiences, revel in the early years of the View Askewniverse, ponder whether Jon Peters thinks Barbara Streisand can read, learn something new about sex worker hair trends of the 70s, and so, so much more. Listen as we rifle through the vast and numerous filing cabinets that hold this story, as we wish Warner Bros had done before Peters could get his hands on Supes' rights from the Salkinds.

CW: Sexism, homophobia, violent behavior, comparisons to Donald Trump, mention of the Heidi Fleiss Hollywood Madame case -- and that's all just Jon Peters!

Podcasts plugged in this episode: The Geeky Dad Podcast (@geekydadpodcast on Twitter)

CW: Sexism, homophobia, violent behavior, comparisons to Donald Trump, mention of the Heidi Fleiss Hollywood Madame case -- and that's all just Jon Peters!

Podcasts plugged in this episode: The Geeky Dad Podcast (@geekydadpodcast on Twitter)

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DeRazzled - The Room - BIG HOLLYWOOD MOVIE!

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Welp, we finally did it. We broke Jack. Special guests/hosts Vince DeStefano and Emily Manno join us to help Jack claw his way back to some semblance to sanity and to (maybe) understand: what is The Room and who exactly is Tommy Wiseau? Armed with tons of great information from Greg Sestero & Tom Bissel's book The Disaster Artist, we do our best to answer Jack's questions. Emily shares what it's like to go to a midnight showing and actually meet Tommy Wiseau. Vince theorizes what's really going on with Tommy's history. And Joe tries to hold it all together, but hey, he's just the sound guy.

CW: misogyny, abusive work environments, Tommy Wiseau impressions

Podcasts Plugged In This Episode: Making A Martini (@MartiniMaking on Twitter)

People & Stuff Mentioned In This Episode: The Room, Tommy Wiseau, Greg Sestero, The Disaster Artist, Tom Bissell, 1UP, James Franco, Dave Franco, James Cameron, Avatar, Anne Rice, Interview With A Vampire, the Zodiac Killer, D.B. Cooper, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Terminator, Mark Frost, David Lynch, Twin Peaks, Scoob!, John F. Kennedy, The Zapruder Tape

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DeRazzled 2nd Unit - Superman Lives, Part 2 - Shaloubin' Around

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We continue our odyssey into Development Hell to wrap up our dissection of Tim Burton's unmade Superman Lives! Having covered the origins of Jon Peters and the beginnings of this project through Kevin Smith's role in this story, we now focus in on Burton's vision for Nick Cage as the Man of Steel in a story of the ultimate outsider. We cover the cavalcade of wildly talented artists involved, the utter pain in the ass that Jon Peters was for basically everyone involved, the panic spiral Warner Bros found themselves in, and just how the death of Superman Lives led to Superman Returns -- including as much as we could stomach of the absolutely buckwild idea J. J. Abrams had that cost us a Batman vs. Superman film written by the guy who wrote Se7en. We also touch on Warner Bros current woes following their merger with Discovery, as it seems like they've learned nothing from their mistakes. We hope that you enjoy the conclusion to this absurd story in which people are wildly in-character throughout, because sadly no one paid us $85 million not to do it. Settle in and wonder for yourselves whether Saved By The Bell's Zack Morris or Tony Shaloub would be your dream Superman.

CW: Racism relating to Tim Burton, more Jon Peters, mention of Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey, mention of Brett Ratner and X-Men: The Last Stand

Podcast plugged in this episode: The Geeky Dad (@geekydadpodcast on Twitter)