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10 Ways to Save the Planet
Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers
09/07/22 • 27 min
Fighting climate change is the biggest job opportunity of our lifetime. But which career will make the biggest difference — and where will you fit in? In this episode, Ryan Panchadsaram explains the 10 solutions outlined in Speed & Scale: six areas to decarbonize and four ways to do it as rapidly as possible.
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Yesh Pavlik Slenk is Degrees’ host. Amy Morse is our producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg is senior producer; Rye Taylor is our audio engineer; Elaine Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is project manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive. Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF).
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Job hunting? Visit our comprehensive Green Jobs Hub for job listings, networking resources, skills and certification information and more.
Speed & Scale, by John Doerr and Ryan Panchadsaram
To learn more about how rapidly green careers are growing, see the GreenBiz report mentioned in this episode. Seventy-five percent of large companies have added sustainability jobs since 2019. Their latest report says, “Hiring of green jobs in the workforce in the United States is rising faster than any other category.”
For a great example of the potential of sustainability careers in city government, listen back to Yesh’s conversation with Chris Castro (Season 1, Episode 2). He became head of sustainability for the city of Orlando before he turned 30. The White House recently recruited Castro to work at the Department of Energy, helping cities across the country become more sustainable.
For more on this episode’s Ask Yesh segment on narrowing down your career choices, listen back to episode 1 in our Green Jobs 101 miniseries).Sustainability careers expert Trish Kenlon offers live coaching to jobseeker Maya Johnson. (Johnson found her first dream job a few months later.) While you’re there, listen to the rest of our Green Jobs 101 miniseries, and to all of the episodes in Season 3 as well!
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The fastest electric vehicle fleet makeover in the west
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09/07/22 • 31 min
To win a copy of Speed & Scale, rate and review Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser or Spotify. Take a screenshot of your review and share it with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund. Use the hashtag #DegreesPodcast. We’re giving away up to five books per episode!
Yesh Pavlik Slenk is Degrees’ host. Amy Morse is our producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg is senior producer; Rye Taylor is our audio engineer; Elaine Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is project manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive. Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF).
Follow Yesh on Twitter at @yeshsays, and stay up to date with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund.
Have a green jobs question for Yesh? Send it to her on Twitter @yeshsays. Use the hashtag #askyesh.
Job hunting? Visit our comprehensive Green Jobs Hub for job listings, networking resources, skills and certification information and more.
Sign up for our newsletter to stay up to date on green careers, upcoming episodes and more.
Resources on electric school buses (ESBs)
- World Resources Institute School Bus Initiative
- Electric School Bus Newsletter
- Mom’s Clean Air Force on environmental justice and electric school buses
- How infrastructure bill is related to electric school buses
- How electric buses reduce toxic exposure for kids
- Stockton Unified School District Energy Patrol video that got a standing ovation at the school board
- Stockton Unified School District is an exemplary case study at WRI
- Modesto City purchases largest single order of electric school buses from Bluebird
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How to green any job with Project Drawdown's Jamie Beck Alexander
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05/31/23 • 18 min
Jamie Beck Alexander is the director of Drawdown Labs, a division of the climate nonprofit Project Drawdown. In 202, Alexander developed and launched Drawdown Labs, which works with the private sector to accelerate their adoption of climate solutions. She’s been heralded for her TEDx Talk about empowering workers to be the driving change for the climate crisis within companies. Prior to Project Drawdown, Alexander worked for Ceres, which also encourages companies to establish ambitious climate goals and reduce emissions.
Read the transcript of this episode.
Resources from this episode:
- Check out the Drawdown Labs Job Function Action Guides:
- Finance Job Function Action Guide
- Government Relations and Public Policy Job Function Action Guide
- Human Resources and Operations Job Function Action Guide
- Legal Job Function Action Guide
- Marketing Job Function Action Guide
- Procurement Job Function Action Guide
- Sales and Client-Facing Roles Job Function Action Guide
- Learn about The Drawdown Roadmap: Using Science to Guide Climate Action
- Follow the Amazon Employees for Climate Justice group and read Amazon’s Climate Pledge.
- If you don’t see your profession in Drawdown Labs’ Job Function Action Guides, try other resources on how to green your job, like the Climate Action Resource Library.
- Join climate-specific communities:
- Browse other climate-related job boards:
- To find people to follow on LinkedIn, visit LinkedIn’s Top Voices in the Green Economy list.
- Search the hashtag #OpenDoorClimate on LinkedIn to find climate professionals who are willing to chat with you. This is the movement founded by Daniel Hill, Year of the Climate Job host and director of Environmental Defense Fund’s Innovation Fund.
- Sign up for the Degrees newsletter.
- Here are some articles we love:
- protocol: “The Inflation Reduction Act is testing Big Tech’s climate resolve”
- Greenbiz: “
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Introducing Season 4: Jobs of the Future
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08/24/22 • 2 min

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Building a Black community for green jobseekers
Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers
09/28/22 • 29 min
Have a green jobs question for Yesh? Send it to her on Twitter @yeshsays. Use the hashtag #askyesh.
Job hunting? Visit our comprehensive Green Jobs Hub for job listings, networking resources, skills and certification information and more.
Sign up for our newsletter to stay up to date on green careers, upcoming episodes and more.
To win a copy of Speed & Scale, rate and review Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser or Spotify. Take a screenshot of your review and share it with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund. Use the hashtag #DegreesPodcast. We’re giving away up to five books per episode!
Resources on diversifying the planet-saving workforce and environmental justice
- BlackOak Collective
- Congressional Black Caucus
- EPA announces new environmental justice division (September 24, 2022)
- Greenbiz State of the Profession Report 2022
Sources used in the making of this story
- Wes Gobar in Grist
- A timeline of the march on Charlottesville
- Compressor pollution compared to diesel fumes from buses
- Reconstruction: What went wrong?
- What are sacrifice zones and who lives there?
- What sank the Atlantic Coast Pipeline
Credits
Host: Yesh Pavlik Slenk
EDF Producer: Amy Morse
Production company: Podcast Allies, LLC
Supervising producer: Elaine Grant, CEO of Podcast Allies
Senior producer: Tressa Versteeg
Project manager: Tina Bassir
Audio engineer: Rye Taylor
Music: Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.
Follow Yesh on Twitter at @yeshsays, and stay up to date with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund.
Visit the Degrees website: https://www.edf.org/degrees
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Transfer Your Skills to a Green Job with Work on Climate’s Eugene Kirpichov
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05/10/23 • 22 min
Eugene Kirpichov co-founded Work on Climate, an online community for people passionate about solving the climate crisis, in 2020. Prior to WoC, Kirpichov spent more than seven years as a software engineer with Google. But learning how severe the climate crisis was, he felt he could no longer stay in his job. The resignation letter he shared on LinkedIn went viral.
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Resources from this episode:
- Join Eugene Kirpichov’s Work on Climate community.
- Join other climate-specific communities:
- Read Kirpichov’s goodbye-to-Google letter.
- Check out the Climate Change and AI report that helped Kirpichov understand which of his skills were transferable.
- Browse other climate-related job boards:
- To find people to follow on LinkedIn, visit LinkedIn’s Top Voices in the Green Economy list.
- Search the hashtag #OpenDoorClimate on LinkedIn to find climate professionals who are willing to chat with you. (This is the movement founded by Daniel Hill. Year of the Climate Job host and director of Environmental Defense Fund’s Innovation Fund.)
- Sign up for the Degrees newsletter.
- Here are some articles we love::
Related episodes:
- How to network for a green job with purpose-driven LinkedIn expert Nick@Noon
- Browngirl Green’s Kristy Drutman: Taking the mystery out of finding a green job
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Lake Street Dive on music, activism, and bravery
Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers
10/13/21 • 31 min
Brooklyn-based Lake Street Dive is Yesh’s favorite band ever! She was so excited to talk to them about her most passionate subject, climate change, and to find out that they care about saving the world (especially for future generations) as much as she does.
Most people don’t think about how their favorite bands contribute to healing our planet. According to a study published in the academic journal Popular Music in 2019, five Scottish touring bands collectively created 19,314 kg (approx. 21 tons) of carbon emissions between the months of April and September. The average yearly carbon emissions per person globally, according to The Nature Conservancy, is four tons.
Lake Street Dive strives to make a difference. Drummer Mike Calabrese, a passionate environmentalist, has taken the lead in educating his fellow band members about climate change and inspiring them to take action. At their shows, they’ve created a culture of environmentalism by allowing only reusable water bottles and utensils—and of course by recycling. They have also partnered with Cool Effect, a carbon offsetting non-profit, to support environmental efforts that help underserved communities around the world. One beneficiary is the Los Santos Wind Power Project, which intends to provide clean energy to 50,000 people in the Los Santos region of Costa Rica. Their latest album, Obviously, includes the song “Making Do” about the effects of global warming on the lives of young people.
Calabrese and lead singer Rachael Price discuss their experiences as an eco-conscious touring band, including their politics in their art, and how people can overcome their fears about our changing world in order to make it better for everyone.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- IPCC: AR6 Climate Change 2021
Additional Resources:
- Cambridge: Do music festivals communities address environmental sustainability and how? A Scottish case study
- The Nature Conservancy: Calculate Your Carbon Footprint
- Cool Effect: Lake Street Dive (Info about Lake Street Dive’s collaboration with carbon offset nonprofit Cool Effect)
- Ladygunn: Lake Street Dive is "Obviously" Making Do (Rachael Price talks with Ladygunn.com about the album Obviously)
- Spotify: Mother Earth Podcast (Mike Calabrese discusses his environmentalism)
- FDA: Food loss and waste in the U.S. (In the U.S., food waste is approx. 30-40% of the food supply)
Follow Lake Street Dive:
- Facebook: Official Lake Street Dive Facebook
- Twitter: Lake Street Dive (@lakestreetdive)
- Instagram: @lakestreetdive
- Website: Lake Street Dive Official
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- Facebook: Environmental Defense Fund
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- LinkedIn: Environmental Defense Fund

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What drove a former USA swim team member to tackle the diesel problem
Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers
10/20/21 • 26 min
BJ Johnson is in a hurry—and for good reason. He’s frustrated by the slow pace of change to address the climate crisis. And he’s angry about how air particle pollution endangers everyone, but especially marginalized groups.
Black, brown, and poor communities are especially plagued by harmful health outcomes—like asthma, COPD and other lung diseases—from environmental pollutants. Regardless of their state or income, Black residents are exposed to 26% higher levels of soot from heavy-duty diesel trucks than the national average. Once exposed, they are then at a three times higher risk of dying.
BJ won’t settle for it taking another two decades to solve the problem. As he tells host Yesh Pavlik Slenk, “This notion of, oh, well it's okay, that five-year-olds in L.A. today have asthma because we'll have electric school buses in 2040—we need to reject that type of thinking and start asking, no—why can't we start making this better today?”
Which is exactly what he’s trying to do. BJ talks with Yesh about how he and ClearFlame cofounder Julie Blumreiter are working to transform the dirty fossil-fuel-based trucking industry into a clean one, affordably. Now.
But that’s not all—the two founders are also fighting for more diversity, inclusion and equity in academia and in the world of high-tech startups. Johnson is one of a small handful of Black academics who have earned doctorates in engineering.
Sadly, that’s not surprising: women and Black people (both men and women) remain underrepresented in STEM degrees and careers, according to the Pew Research Center. Black people are especially underrepresented in engineering, where they make up only 5% of all groups in that field, despite being 11% of the workforce.
Blumreiter and Johnson, who is half-Black, call for an end to this inequity. Writing in an open letter on their website, they reference their own experiences as being “consistently underestimated” because of their identities. In their letter, they call for acknowledgment that solving the world’s problems must come from “a diverse range of thought-leaders.”
Additional Information:
- Grist: Grist 50 2021 ClearFlame was named one of Grist’s top 50 “fixers” of issues surrounding climate change in 2021.
- Techcrunch: ClearFlame Engine Technologies takes aim at cleaning up diesel engines
- OEM Off-Highway: ClearFlame Receives DOE Grant to Support R&D of Clean Engine Technology
- New York Times: Biden Tightens Emissions Rules
- Pew Research Center: STEM Jobs See Uneven Progress in Increasing Gender, Racial and Ethnic Diversity
- American Lung Association: https://www.lung.org/clean-air/outdoors/who-is-at-risk/disparities
Follow BJ Johnson and ClearFlame Engine Technologies:
- Twitter: Clear Flame Engine Technologies (@ClearFlameEng)
- LinkedIn: BJ Johnson
- Company website: ClearFlame Engine Technologies
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Yes, you can turn your climate anxiety into meaningful action
Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers
10/27/21 • 28 min
LaUra Schmidt co-founded the non-profit Good Grief Network in 2016 with her wife, Aimee Lewis-Reau, to provide a space to help people cope with climate anxiety. Passionate about saving endangered species and panic-stricken about the climate emergency, LaUra had been suffering from her own climate grief and impotence. A childhood trauma survivor, LaUra had found solace in Adult Children of Alcoholics. So she took that group’s 12-step model (an offshoot of AA) and developed a 10-step program for others like her. Today, it’s helped more than 2,500 climate anxiety sufferers from more than 14 countries—and growing.
Schmidt describes the despair of climate anxiety as “when we wake up to how severe the climate crisis is, paralleled with our social injustice issues... our ecosite issues and our habitat destruction issues.” That wake-up call can make anyone question themselves, she says: “It really takes on a personal blend of, ‘ What can I possibly do?’”
The Good Grief Network arrived right on time. A recent study published in the medical journal The Lancet found that of 10,000 young people, ages 16 to 25, in 10 countries, 84% are worried about the climate.
- The same study found more than 50% feel sad, anxious, angry, powerless, helpless and guilty about climate change.
- Forty-five percent said climate anxiety was affecting their ability to function in daily life.
The authors wrote that this stress threatens the health and well-being of young people and there is an “urgent need” for an increase in research and governmental response to this critical issue.
Since its founding, The Good Grief Network has served more than 2,500 participants in more than 14 countries. Schmidt, who describes herself as a “truth-seeker, cultural critic, grief-worker, and the granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor” hopes to help others around the world develop the resiliency and skill set to create change.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- IPCC: AR6 Climate Change 2021
- The Lancet: Young People's Voices on Climate Anxiety and Government Betrayal, and Moral Injury: A Global Phenomenon
Additional Information:
- Today: Climate Anxiety is Real: How to Cope When it Feels Like the World is Burning Results of the first large-scale, global peer-reviewed study on climate anxiety in children and young adults was published in the scientific journal The Lancet on Tuesday, September 14.
- Gizmodo: The Kids Are Not Alright In what Gizmodo called “rare candor” by scientists, the authors said that they had hoped for significant results. But they added, “We wish that these results had not been quite so devastating.”
- Washington Post: Climate disasters will strain our mental health system. It’s time to adapt
- The Atlantic: A World Without Children
Follow Good Grief Network:
- LinkedIn: laUra schmidt
- Website: Good Grief Network
- Twitter: Good Grief Network (@GoodGriefNetwk)
- Instagram: Good Grief Network (@goodgriefnetwork)
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Katharine Hayhoe on how to start climate conversations
Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers
11/15/23 • 33 min
Dr. Katharine Hayhoe’s research focuses on understanding what climate change means for people and the places where we live. She is the Horn Distinguished Professor of Public Policy and Public Law at Texas Tech University. Her book Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World, followed her 2018 TED Talk, “The most important thing you can do to fight climate change: talk about it.” The Guardian called her “a committed Christian who has gained a reputation for being able to reach across the most partisan of political divides.” ‘
Resources from this episode:
- For climate communication and advocacy trainings, check out the Science Network Workshop Series from the Union of Concerned Scientists and read Work for Climate’s tips for talking about climate change at work.
- Subscribe to Talking Climate, Dr. Hayhoe’s weekly newsletter for good news, not so good news, and things you can do about climate change.
- Follow Dr. Hayoe on TikTok @dr.katharine and watch her PBS series Global Weirding for fact-based, practical, and hopeful lessons on climate change.
- If you want to push climate solutions from “the inside” of a workplace that is not doing anything, make sure you have a support network elsewhere. Try the Action Network’s Our Climate Voices or find your local Net Impact chapter.
- To understand more about how people in the US feel about climate change, and how it influences their actions, read this study from the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication. It will help you think about your approach beyond a believer versus denier binary.
- Dr. Hayoe recommends finding common ground through the things you love to do or ways you identify. For instance, she started a group called Science Moms, and recommends a blog called Fossil Free Football.
Related episodes:
- How a punk-rocking paralegal harnessed employee power to green Microsoft
- How Heather McTeer Toney is redefining climate action for the next generation of leaders
- Yes, you can turn your climate anxiety into meaningful action
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