
Building a Black community for green jobseekers
09/28/22 • 29 min
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Resources on diversifying the planet-saving workforce and environmental justice
- BlackOak Collective
- Congressional Black Caucus
- EPA announces new environmental justice division (September 24, 2022)
- Greenbiz State of the Profession Report 2022
Sources used in the making of this story
- Wes Gobar in Grist
- A timeline of the march on Charlottesville
- Compressor pollution compared to diesel fumes from buses
- Reconstruction: What went wrong?
- What are sacrifice zones and who lives there?
- What sank the Atlantic Coast Pipeline
Credits
Host: Yesh Pavlik Slenk
EDF Producer: Amy Morse
Production company: Podcast Allies, LLC
Supervising producer: Elaine Grant, CEO of Podcast Allies
Senior producer: Tressa Versteeg
Project manager: Tina Bassir
Audio engineer: Rye Taylor
Music: Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.
Follow Yesh on Twitter at @yeshsays, and stay up to date with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund.
Visit the Degrees website: https://www.edf.org/degrees
Share Degrees:
Have a green jobs question for Yesh? Send it to her on Twitter @yeshsays. Use the hashtag #askyesh.
Job hunting? Visit our comprehensive Green Jobs Hub for job listings, networking resources, skills and certification information and more.
Sign up for our newsletter to stay up to date on green careers, upcoming episodes and more.
To win a copy of Speed & Scale, rate and review Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser or Spotify. Take a screenshot of your review and share it with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund. Use the hashtag #DegreesPodcast. We’re giving away up to five books per episode!
Resources on diversifying the planet-saving workforce and environmental justice
- BlackOak Collective
- Congressional Black Caucus
- EPA announces new environmental justice division (September 24, 2022)
- Greenbiz State of the Profession Report 2022
Sources used in the making of this story
- Wes Gobar in Grist
- A timeline of the march on Charlottesville
- Compressor pollution compared to diesel fumes from buses
- Reconstruction: What went wrong?
- What are sacrifice zones and who lives there?
- What sank the Atlantic Coast Pipeline
Credits
Host: Yesh Pavlik Slenk
EDF Producer: Amy Morse
Production company: Podcast Allies, LLC
Supervising producer: Elaine Grant, CEO of Podcast Allies
Senior producer: Tressa Versteeg
Project manager: Tina Bassir
Audio engineer: Rye Taylor
Music: Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.
Follow Yesh on Twitter at @yeshsays, and stay up to date with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund.
Visit the Degrees website: https://www.edf.org/degrees
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The woman greening the golden arches
To win a copy of Speed & Scale, rate and review Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Podchaser or Spotify. Take a screenshot of your review and share it with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund. Use the hashtag #DegreesPodcast. We’re giving away up to five books per episode!
Terms we discuss in this episode:
Scope: How companies categorize their emissions.
- Scope 1 emissions are direct emissions from owned or controlled sources, sometimes called “operational emissions.” This includes reducing emissions from facilities or vehicles owned by an organization.
- Scope 2 emissions are indirect emissions from electricity, heating, cooling, or steam purchased by an organization. (For additional guidance on Scopes 1 and 2, see the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’ website.)
- Scope 3 emissions are all indirect emissions (that aren’t included in Scope 2) in an organization’s value chain. These are sometimes called “supply chain emissions.” Scope 3 emissions include both upstream emissions (from production processes) and downstream emissions (consumer use of a certain product).
With Jenny, we talk a lot about Scope 3 — in McDonald’s case, the emissions from its supply chain and franchisees. Since franchisees make up 95% of McDonald’s restaurants, scope 3 emissions are significant.
Science-Based Targets (SBTs)
SBTs provide a clearly-defined pathway for companies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and help prevent the worst impacts of climate change. McDonald’s uses SBTs.
Absolute and Intensity Targets
These are two ways to measure emissions reductions.
- Intensity Target: Emissions relative to some other factor, such as the number of employees or revenue. Intensity targets account for economic growth. For example, McDonald’s could reduce the emissions per chicken nugget, while continuing to sell more happy meals each year.
- Absolute Target: An attempt to reduce all emissions, regardless of other factors. For example, an absolute target at McDonald’s would be saying that no matter how many chicken nuggets they sell, McDonald’s will reduce the amount of total emissions associated with chicken nuggets.
Resources:
- Environmental Defense Fund Climate Corps program, where Jenny McColloch was a fellow
- McDonald’s 2021 Risk & Resiliency report
- McDonald’s Climate Strategy
- McDonald’s Net Zero by 2050 Announcement
- Global Roundtable for Sustainable Beef
- U.S. Roundtable for Sustainable Beef
Yesh Pavlik Slenk is Degrees’ host. Amy Morse is our producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg is senior producer; Rye Taylor is our audio engineer; Elaine Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is project manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive. Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF).
For this special episode, we super-sized our team. For our interview with Jenny McColloch, Yesh joined forces with Mike Toffel, host of Climate Rising, a podcast about the impact of climate change on business from Harvard Business School.
Follow Yesh on Twitter at @yeshsays, and stay up to date with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund.
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Frank Kanawha Lake, Ph.D., is a research ecologist with the U.S. Forest Service. He’s been learning and teaching the role of fire in managing ecosystems in the northwest U.S. for more than three decades, and has introduced indigenous fire prevention and management practices to the Forest Service. He was mentored by botanist and best-selling author, Robin Wall Kimmerer.
Have a green jobs question for Yesh? Send it to her on Twitter @yeshsays. Use the hashtag #askyesh.
Job hunting? Visit our comprehensive Green Jobs Hub for job listings, networking resources, skills and certification information and more.
Sign up for our newsletter to stay up to date on green careers, upcoming episodes and more.
To win a copy of Speed & Scale, rate and review Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser or Spotify. Take a screenshot of your review and share it with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund. Use the hashtag #DegreesPodcast. We’re giving away up to five books per episode!
Resources
- Meet Frank Kanawha Lake (US Forest Service)
- Sacred Pollinators: An Interview with Frank K. Lake (California Native Plant Society)
- From Supercomputers to Fire-Starting Drones, These Tools Help Fight Wildfires (Smithsonian Magazine)
- In a World on Fire, Stop Burning Things, by Bill McKibben (The New Yorker)
Credits
Yesh Pavlik Slenk is Degrees’ host. Amy Morse is our producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg is senior producer; audio engineers Rye Taylor and Matthew Simonson worked on this episode. Elaine Grant is supervising producer and CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is project manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive. Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF).
Follow Yesh on Twitter at @yeshsays and stay up to date with us on Instagram @environmental_defense_fund.
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