
The New Normal
11/16/22 • 41 min
Abortion care is a necessary healthcare service for women and all pregnant people at every stage of pregnancy, especially if complications such as fetal anomalies arise. But in the "new normal" post the overturn of Roe v. Wade, maternal mortality is reportedly on the rise, and services are being severely restricted in more than half of the U.S. The recent mid-terms showed overwhelming support from voters in several states for abortion protections, in both candidates elected and ballots passed.
When Erika Christensen and Garin Marschall discovered the baby they’d been hoping for would not survive outside the womb, they sought abortion care. Since New York did not permit abortion after 24 weeks, they were forced to travel to Colorado to receive the care they needed. The traumatic experience pushed them to found Patient Forward, a grassroots reproductive care advocacy organization. They connected with Dr. Diane Horvath, who, together with Certified Nurse Midwife Morgan Nuzzo, is opening an all-trimester clinic in Maryland. Morgan and Diane face many barriers to starting their clinic. From safety concerns to delayed inspections, yet persevere to become one of less than ten all-trimester clinics in the U.S. As we wrap up this season of "Crossing the Line," we will also look back to former interviewees in Shreveport, Dallas, Phoenix, and Michigan to see how they're faring in a post-Roe world.
Visit CTLpod.com to find out more about the podcast, resources for abortion care, and information on how you can take action.
Special thanks to Dr. Diane Horvath, Certified Nurse-Midwife Morgan Nuzzo, and the staff at Partners In Abortion Care; Dr. Colleen McNicholas and Planned Parenthood; Erika Christensen, Garin Marschall, and Patient Forward; Reverend Daniel Kanter and First Unitarian Church Of Dallas; Kathaleen Pittman and Hope Medical Group for Women; Dr. Gabrielle Goddrick and Camelback Family Planning Clinic; Lead Escort Marie and Northland Family Planning; the Dr. Reverend Cari Jackson and the Religious Coalition For Reproductive Choice; Dr. Reagan Mosley and Power to Decide.
Go to plancpills.org to learn how to access abortion pills. If you live in a restrictive state go to AidAccess.org. Need help funding your abortion? Check out the National Network of Abortion Funds and the Abortion Freedom Fund. Need advice or have questions about a miscarriage or abortion? Go to M+A Hotline. Have legal questions? Go Repro Legal Helpline. Destigmatize self-managed abortion by supporting Abortion on Our Own Terms. Advocate for youth access with URGE. Access trusted abortion care information at AbortionFinder.org and reproductive health information at Bedsider.org.
This podcast is brought to you by Population Media Center. Executive Producers are Lisa Caruso and Alex Demyanenko, with Co-Producer Kathleen Bedoya and Associate Producer Dominica Ruelas. This episode was field produced by Charity Tooze. Edited by Bruno Falcon with production services provided by Pidge Productions. Production coordination is by June Neely. Charity Tooze leads impact strategy. The narration is read by Tatiana St. Phard. Original music is composed by Valeri Ortiz.
Abortion care is a necessary healthcare service for women and all pregnant people at every stage of pregnancy, especially if complications such as fetal anomalies arise. But in the "new normal" post the overturn of Roe v. Wade, maternal mortality is reportedly on the rise, and services are being severely restricted in more than half of the U.S. The recent mid-terms showed overwhelming support from voters in several states for abortion protections, in both candidates elected and ballots passed.
When Erika Christensen and Garin Marschall discovered the baby they’d been hoping for would not survive outside the womb, they sought abortion care. Since New York did not permit abortion after 24 weeks, they were forced to travel to Colorado to receive the care they needed. The traumatic experience pushed them to found Patient Forward, a grassroots reproductive care advocacy organization. They connected with Dr. Diane Horvath, who, together with Certified Nurse Midwife Morgan Nuzzo, is opening an all-trimester clinic in Maryland. Morgan and Diane face many barriers to starting their clinic. From safety concerns to delayed inspections, yet persevere to become one of less than ten all-trimester clinics in the U.S. As we wrap up this season of "Crossing the Line," we will also look back to former interviewees in Shreveport, Dallas, Phoenix, and Michigan to see how they're faring in a post-Roe world.
Visit CTLpod.com to find out more about the podcast, resources for abortion care, and information on how you can take action.
Special thanks to Dr. Diane Horvath, Certified Nurse-Midwife Morgan Nuzzo, and the staff at Partners In Abortion Care; Dr. Colleen McNicholas and Planned Parenthood; Erika Christensen, Garin Marschall, and Patient Forward; Reverend Daniel Kanter and First Unitarian Church Of Dallas; Kathaleen Pittman and Hope Medical Group for Women; Dr. Gabrielle Goddrick and Camelback Family Planning Clinic; Lead Escort Marie and Northland Family Planning; the Dr. Reverend Cari Jackson and the Religious Coalition For Reproductive Choice; Dr. Reagan Mosley and Power to Decide.
Go to plancpills.org to learn how to access abortion pills. If you live in a restrictive state go to AidAccess.org. Need help funding your abortion? Check out the National Network of Abortion Funds and the Abortion Freedom Fund. Need advice or have questions about a miscarriage or abortion? Go to M+A Hotline. Have legal questions? Go Repro Legal Helpline. Destigmatize self-managed abortion by supporting Abortion on Our Own Terms. Advocate for youth access with URGE. Access trusted abortion care information at AbortionFinder.org and reproductive health information at Bedsider.org.
This podcast is brought to you by Population Media Center. Executive Producers are Lisa Caruso and Alex Demyanenko, with Co-Producer Kathleen Bedoya and Associate Producer Dominica Ruelas. This episode was field produced by Charity Tooze. Edited by Bruno Falcon with production services provided by Pidge Productions. Production coordination is by June Neely. Charity Tooze leads impact strategy. The narration is read by Tatiana St. Phard. Original music is composed by Valeri Ortiz.
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A Matter of Life or Death
Abortion care is not just an essential part of reproductive healthcare but a necessary component of holistic healthcare decisions. When pregnant people are diagnosed with life-threatening conditions, when does their survival become the priority? With the recent overturn of Roe v Wade, these decisions are more complicated. Doctors in states with bans that only allow abortion in the case of "imminent danger" to the mother's life are unsure how to proceed. It's difficult for them to interpret the law and determine a treatment plan when they could face a felony charge for performing an abortion while their patient's life is on the line. An oncologist from the University of Wisconsin shares stories of cancer patients unable to receive treatment, and a Maryland woman who had a pregnancy onset stroke, shares how she took her survival into her own hands when she couldn't obtain the abortion she needed. As healthcare becomes politicized, who has a mother-to-be's best interests in mind when it's a matter of life or death?
Visit CTLpod.com to find out more about the podcast, resources for abortion care, and information on how you can take action.
Thank you to Dr. Lisa Barriolet, Dr. Noelle Loconte, Layla Houshmand, Nurse-Midwife Morgan Nuzzo from Partners in Abortion Care, Cinthya Maldonado, University Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health, and everyone who shared their stories.
Go to plancpills.org to learn how to access abortion pills. If you live in a restrictive state go to AidAccess.org. Need help funding your abortion? Check out National Network of Abortion Funds and the Abortion Freedom Fund. Need advice or have questions about a miscarriage or abortion? Go to M+A Hotline. Have legal questions? Go Repro Legal Helpline. Destigmatize self-managed abortion by supporting Abortion on Our Own Terms. Advocate for youth access with URGE. Access trusted abortion care information at AbortionFinder.org and reproductive health information at Bedsider.org.
This podcast is brought to you by Population Media Center. Executive Producers are Lisa Caruso and Alex Demyanenko, with Co-Producer Kathleen Bedoya and Associate Producer Dominica Ruelas. This episode was field produced by Charity Tooze. Edited by Bruno Falcon with production services provided by Pidge Productions. Production coordination is by June Neely. Charity Tooze leads impact strategy. The narration is read by Tatiana St. Phard. Original music is composed by Valeri Ortiz.
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Pills: The New Frontier for Anti-Abortion Attacks
Many at the forefront of the abortion access movement(s) predicted the overturn of Roe v. Wade would be the tip of the iceberg on legislation curbing bodily autonomy and reproductive freedom -- and they were right. In March 2023, Texas U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk appeared sympathetic to arguments from the anti-abortion coalition the Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine in a case that is attempting to overturn the FDA's approval of the abortion pill mifepristone - one of two pills used for a medical abortion, which accounts for over half of U.S. abortions. In this bonus episode, you'll hear from Plan C Pills co-founder Elisa Wells, Imani Wilson Shabazz, and Dr. Raegan McDonald-Mosley, CEO of Power to Decide about how safe the abortion pills are and how to access abortion pills regardless of what happens with the current lawsuit. Finally, you'll go on a journey with a young woman in Alabama who receives her first abortion pill from Dr. Diane Horvath on her last trip to Alabama to perform abortions before the overturn of Roe v. Wade.
Special thanks to Dr. Diane Horvath from Partners in Abortion Care, Elisa Wells and Imani Wilson Shabazz from Plan C Pills, Dr. Raegan McDonald-Mosley, CEO of Power to Decide, and all those who shared their stories with us. Go to plancpills.org to learn how to access abortion pills. If you live in a restrictive state, go to AidAccess.org. Need help funding your abortion? Check out the National Network of Abortion Funds and the Abortion Freedom Fund. Need advice or have questions about a miscarriage or abortion? Go to M+A Hotline. Have legal questions? Go Repro Legal Helpline. Access trusted abortion care information at AbortionFinder.org and reproductive health information at Bedsider.org.
This podcast is brought to you by Population Media Center. Executive Producers are Lisa Caruso and Alex Demyanenko, with Co-Producer Kathleen Bedoya and Associate Producer Dominica Ruelas. Charity Tooze produced this bonus episode. The script was written by Lynn Hughes and edited by Bruno Falcon, with production services provided by Pidge Productions. Charity Tooze leads impact strategy. Tatiana St. Phard reads the narration. The original music is composed by Valeri Ortiz.
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