Clotheshorse with Amanda Lee McCarty

Meet Julie Tamerler, a family law, business, and intellectual property attorney...and big time secondhand shopper! She is going to talk to us about the quandaries resale platforms face when it comes to knockoffs and fakes. It's VERY complicated from both a legal and operational perspective. We'll explore what *might* (or might not) happen to seller's stuff if The Real Real or ThredUp went bankrupt. And she’ll explain to us why we should read those terms and conditions before we agree to sell on these platforms!

Read Julie's writing in this area:
"If Resale Companies Go Bankrupt, Who Is Left Holding the Bag?" The Fashion Law.
"A Case Over Canal Street Fakes Raises Questions About the Potential Bounds of Landlord Liability," The Fashion Law.

Other reading:

"The RealReal Sold Me A $3,600 Fake; Here’s Why Counterfeits Slip Through Its Authentication Process," Richard Kestenbaum, Forbes.
"THE REALREAL'S AUTHENTICATION PRACTICES ARE NOT WHAT THEY SEEM, ACCORDING TO NEW INVESTIGATION," Dhani Mau, Fashionista.
"HEY, QUICK QUESTION: WHY IS THE REALREAL SELLING UNMARKED TARGET DESIGNER COLLABORATIONS?" Alyssa Lapid, Meredith Lawrence, Lisa Peterson, Fashionista.
"The RealReal slashes workforce, store base in quest for profits," Daphne Howland, Retail Dive.
"At a Glance: See How These Six Corporations Control the Luxury Fashion Industry," Nika Mavrody, The Fashion Spot.
"Sasha Benz & The Curious Case Of The Fake Chanel Earrings," Christie Grimm, The Social Post.
"The RealReal BadBad: Fashion's next big scandal?" The Wreck List.

Check out Amanda's other podcast, The Department.

Have questions/comments/cute animal photos? Reach out via email: [email protected]

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Clotheshorse is brought to you with support from the following sustainable small businesses:

Blank Cass, or Blanket Coats by Cass, is focused on restoring, renewing, and reviving the history held within vintage and heirloom textiles. By embodying and transferring the love, craft, and energy that is original to each vintage textile into a new garment, I hope we can reteach ourselves to care for and mend what we have and make it last. Blank Cass lives on Instagram @blank_cass and a website will be launched soon at blankcass.com.

St. Evens is an NYC-based vintage shop that is dedicated to bringing you those special pieces you’ll reach for again and again. More than just a store, St. Evens is dedicated to sharing the stories and history behind the garments. 10% of all sales are donated to a different charitable organization each month. New vintage is released every Thursday at wearStEvens.com, with previews of new pieces and more brought to you on Instagram at @wear_st.evens.

The Pewter Thimble Is there a little bit of Italy in your soul? Are you an enthusiast of pre-loved decor and accessories? Bring vintage Italian style — and history — into your space with The Pewter Thimble (@thepewterthimble). We source useful and beautiful things, and mend them where needed. We also find gorgeous illustrations, and make them print-worthy. Tarot cards, tea towels and handpicked treasures, available to you from the comfort of your own home. Responsibly sourced f...

Get to know Leah of Seedling Vintage! Leah's journey to selling vintage is a long one that starts at a big fast fashion retailer, moves into experiential design, and ultimately finds meaning and comfort via vintage. We’re going to talk about so much, from "what the heck is experiential design" to debunking the myth that we are running out of secondhand clothing.
Check out Leah's Etsy shop here.

Let’s make art simple- together! Check out Let’s Make Art today by going to my special link, zen.ai/clotheshorse to get 20% off. Coupon code is activated at checkout!

Clotheshorse is brought to you with support from the following sustainable brands:

Thumbprint is Detroit's only fair trade marketplace, located in the historic Eastern Market. Our small business specializes in products handmade by empowered women in South Africa making a living wage creating things they love like hand painted candles and ceramics! We also carry a curated assortment of sustainable/natural locally made goods. Thumbprint is a great gift destination for both the special people in your life and for yourself! Browse our online store at thumbprintdetroit.com and find us on instagram @thumbprintdetroit.

Country Feedback is a mom & pop record shop in Tarboro, North Carolina. They specialize in used rock, country, and soul and offer affordable vintage clothing and housewares. Do you have used records you want to sell? Country Feedback wants to buy them! Find us on Instagram @countryfeedbackvintageandvinyl or head downeast and visit our brick and mortar. All are welcome at this inclusive and family-friendly record shop in the country!

Selina Sanders, a social impact brand that specializes in up-cycled clothing, using only reclaimed, vintage or thrifted materials: from tea towels, linens, blankets and quilts. Sustainably crafted in Los Angeles, each piece is designed to last in one's closet for generations to come. Maximum Style; Minimal Carbon Footprint

Salt Hats: purveyors of truly sustainable hats. Hand blocked, sewn and embellished in Detroit, Michigan.

Republica Unicornia Yarns: Hand-Dyed Yarn and notions for the color-obsessed. Made with love and some swearing in fabulous Atlanta, Georgia by Head Yarn Wench Kathleen. Get ready for rainbows with a side of Giving A Damn! Republica Unicornia is all about making your own magic using small-batch, responsibly sourced, hand-dyed yarns and thoughtfully made notions. Slow fashion all the way down and discover the joy of creating your very own beautiful hand knit, crocheted, or woven pieces. Find us on Instagram @republica_unicornia_yarns and at www.republicaunicornia.com.

Gentle Vibes: We are purveyors of polyester and psychedelic relics! We encourage experimentation and play not only in your wardrobe, but in your home, too. We have thousands of killer vintage pieces ready for their next adventure!

Picnicwear: a slow fashion brand, ethically made by hand from vintage and deadstock materials - most notably, vintage towels! Founder, Dani, has worked in the industry as a fashion designer for over 10 years, but started Picnicwear in response to her dissatisfaction with the industry's shortcomings. Picnicwear recently moved to rural North Carolina where all their clothing and accessories are now designed and cut, but the majority of their sewing is done by skilled garment workers in NYC. Their customers take comfort in knowing that all their sewists are paid well above NYC minimum wage. Picnicwear offers minimal waste and maximum authenticity: Future Vintage over future garbage.

Shift Clothing, out of beautiful Astoria, Oregon, with a focus on natural fibers, simple hardworking designs, and putting fat people first. Discover more at shiftwheeler.com

No Flight Back Vin...

Emily Li Mandri, founder and design behind MLE, joins Amanda to talk about all things accessories and jewelry, including

• What is costume jewelry? And why is metal content important?
• The drawbacks of "fast jewelry"
• What are the challenges of running a small, ethical accessories brand?
• How are knockoffs and copycats a big part of the jewelry/accessories industry?
• What happens when bigger brands don't pay their invoices?

And so much more! Read more about what is happening with Neighborhood Goods and unpaid brands here: "Neighborhood Goods Has Closed--Vendors Want their Money."

Amanda gets things started with thoughts about the "Loneliness Economy," capitalism, and community. It turns out that one of the most revolutionary things we can do is...be active and supportive members of our community!

Find Emily and MLE here:
@madebyMLE on Instagram
madebyMLE.com (use code CLOTHESHORSE to get 10% off your order)

Additional reading:

"The Loneliness Economy: How Capitalism Thrives on Isolation," Piyush Patel, Medium.
"Capitalism starves us of love — we don’t have to stand by," Alexandra Kauffman, The Emory Wheel.
"Capitalism Subverts Community," Robert Neuwirth, Noema.
"Capitalism has warped our understanding of community — and it's making us vulnerable to manipulation," Valerie Vande Panne, Salon.

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​High Energy Vintage is a fun and funky vintage shop located in Somerville, MA, just a few minutes away from downtown Boston. They offer a highly curated selection of bright and colorful clothing and accessories from the 1940s-1990s for people of all genders. Husband-and-wife duo Wiley & Jessamy handpick each piece for quality and style, with a focus on pieces that transcend trends and will find a home in your closet for many years to come! In addition to clothing, the shop also features a large selection of vintage vinyl and old school video games. Find them on instagram @ highenergyvintage, online at highenergyvintage.com, and at markets in and around Boston.

The Pewter Thimble Is there a little bit of Italy in your soul? Are you an enthusiast of pre-loved decor and accessories? Bring vintage Italian style — and history — into your space with The Pewter Thimble (@thepewterthimble). We source useful and beautiful things, and mend them where needed. We also find gorgeous illustrations, and make them print-worthy. Tarot cards, tea towels and handpicked treasures, available to you from the comfort of your own home. Responsibly sourced from across Rome, lovingly renewed by fairly paid artists and artisans, with something for every budget. Discover more at thepewterthimble.com

St. Evens is an NYC-based vintage shop that is dedicated to bringing you those special pieces you’ll reach for again and again. More t...

This episode is extra special because various members of the Clotheshorse.world staff have recorded short audio essays about their personal style.

• Elise shares her journey from vintage vibe to actual vintage/super unique personal style (with a cameo from Modcloth).
• Iris tells us why she refuses to believe that beauty is pain.
• Phoebe finally buys a parka.
• Karrie discusses the intersection between a changing body and her wardrobe.
• Emma explains how her tattoos are a window into her personal identity.
• Kelsey sets us straight on piercings.
• And Amanda talks about her hair.

And please...go check out all of their essays related to personal style over on the blog (and follow @clotheshorse.world on instagram because it's super cool)!

Want to support Clotheshorse *and* receive exclusive episodes, a weekly newsletter, and some swag? Then become a patron!
You can also make a one-time contribution via Venmo to @crystal_visions

Do you have some feedback? An episode idea? Do YOU want to be a guest on Clotheshorse? Drop us a line at [email protected].

Don’t forget The Clotheshorse Hotline! The phone number is 717.925.7417. Call us!

If you want to meet other Clotheshorse listeners, join the Clotheshorsing Around facebook group.

And don't forget to check out The Department!

Clotheshorse is brought to you with support from the following sustainable brands:

Selina Sanders, a social impact brand that specializes in up-cycled clothing, using only reclaimed, vintage or thrifted materials: from tea towels, linens, blankets and quilts. Sustainably crafted in Los Angeles, each piece is designed to last in one's closet for generations to come. Maximum Style; Minimal Carbon Footprint

Salt Hats: purveyors of truly sustainable hats. Hand blocked, sewn and embellished in Detroit, Michigan.

Gentle Vibes: We are purveyors of polyester and psychedelic relics! We encourage experimentation and play not only in your wardrobe, but in your home, too. We have thousands of killer vintage pieces ready for their next adventure!

Picnicwear: a slow fashion brand made by hand in NYC from vintage and deadstock textiles. Picnicwear strives for minimal waste but maximum authenticity; Future Vintage over future garbage!

Shift Clothing, out of beautiful Astoria, Oregon, with a focus on natural fibers, simple hardworking designs, and putting fat people first. Discover more at shiftwheeler.com
No Flight Back Vintage: bringing fun, new life to old things. Always using recycled and secondhand materials to make dope ass shit for dope ass people. See more on instagram @noflightbackvintage

Late to the Party, creating one of a kind statement clothing from vintage, salvaged and thrifted textiles. They hope to tap into the dreamy memories we all hold: floral curtains, a childhood dress, the wallpaper in your best friend’s rec room, all while creating modern sustainable garments that you'll love wearing and have for years to come. Late to the Party is passionate about celebrating and preserving textiles, the memories they hold, and the stories they have yet to tell. Check them out on Instagram!

Vino Vintage, based just outside of LA. We love the hunt of shopping secondhand because you never know what you might find! And catch us at flea markets around Southern California by following us on instagram @vino.vintage so you don’t miss our next eve...

Alex of St. Evens drops by the pod to talk about employee discounts (something Amanda has been wanting to cover FOREVER), how businesses actually rely on the employees to be customers in order to meet sales goals, and how that discount isn’t really that great of a deal. We’ll also just be talking about how generally difficult retail work is and also some of the egregious waste that takes place within most retail stores.

And before that, Amanda breaks down another key pillar of capitalism: competition! This conversation meanders (with purpose) from monopolies to utilities to social media to Walmart and on to the company store. It all makes sense when you hear it together!

Check out Alex's recurring column Vintage Detective. And visit her website, wearstevens.com!

Don't forget about your new hot Friday night date: our weekly IG Live Q+A session at 8 pm Eastern Time. What will Amanda wear? Which cat will scratch the chair? What is Brenda doing? There's only one way to find out...find us on instagram @clotheshorsepodcast. This Friday, Amanda will be doing an extra special IG Live with Samie of Dylan Paige. So check it out!!!

Want to support Clotheshorse *and* receive exclusive episodes, a weekly newsletter, and some swag? Then become a patron!
You can also make a one-time donation via Venmo to @crystal_visions

Clotheshorse.world has arrived! But it’s not too late to get involved. we will need new content constantly so don’t worry about being late to the party! Learn more here.

Do you have some feedback? An episode idea? Do YOU want to be a guest on Clotheshorse? Drop us a line at [email protected].

Don’t forget The Clotheshorse Hotline! The phone number is 717.925.7417. Call us!

If you want to meet other Clotheshorse listeners, join the Clotheshorsing Around facebook group.

And don't forget to check out The Department!

Clotheshorse is brought to you with support from the following sustainable brands:

Selina Sanders, a social impact brand that specializes in up-cycled clothing, using only reclaimed, vintage or thrifted materials: from tea towels, linens, blankets and quilts. Sustainably crafted in Los Angeles, each piece is designed to last in one's closet for generations to come. Maximum Style; Minimal Carbon Footprint

Salt Hats: purveyors of truly sustainable hats. Hand blocked, sewn and embellished in Detroit, Michigan.

Gentle Vibes: We are purveyors of polyester and psychedelic relics! We encourage experimentation and play not only in your wardrobe, but in your home, too. We have thousands of killer vintage pieces ready for their next adventure!

Picnicwear: a slow fashion brand made by hand in NYC from vintage and deadstock textiles. Picnicwear strives for minimal waste but maximum authenticity; Future Vintage over future garbage!

Shift Clothing, out of beautiful Astoria, Oregon, with a focus on natural fibers, simple hardworking designs, and putting fat people first. Discover more at shiftwheeler.com
No Flight Back Vintage: bringing fun, new life to old things. Always using recycled and secondhand materials to make dope ass shit for dope ass people. See more on instagram @noflightbackvintage

Late to the Party, creating one of a kind statement clothing from vintage, salvaged and thrifted textiles. They hope to tap into the dreamy memories we all hold: floral curtains, a childhood dress, the wallpaper in your best friend’s rec room, all while creating modern sustainable garments that you'll love wearing and have for years to come. Late to the Party is passionate about celebrating and preserving textiles, the memories they hold, and the stories they have yet to tell. Check them out...