
220: Bridging the Race Gap in the Coaching Industry with Topsie Vandenbosch
06/16/20 • 53 min
n today’s episode, we’re diving into how to bridge the race gap in the online coaching space! Our guest--Topsie Vandenbosch--is a mindset coach for female entrepreneurs, a clinical mental health therapist who has focused on ambitious women that struggle with anxiety and depression, and the “truth teller” as she’s known by her audience. Topsie has an extremely powerful voice and speaks on mindset shifts we can use to be an anti-racist and bridge the race gap in the coaching industry.
In this episode, we discuss how the experience of Black coaches and entrepreneurs differs from that of white coaches, how to create equal opportunity for Black coaches in the space, and the roll spiritual bypassing plays in keeping white supremacy alive. We also dive into how white brands and influencers can come across as privileged and unrelatable to audience members who may not look like them, the harmful effects of avoiding negativity and uncomfortable conversations or emotions, validation and creating safety, standing on the side of what’s right and holding your integrity, and mindset shifts we can all practice moving forward to bridge this gap.
#BlackLivesMatter
Connect with Topsie at: https://www.instagram.com/topsievandenbosch/?hl=en
Work With Topsie: www.topsievandenbosch.com/apply
- [5:41] Topsie discusses not seeing black coaches on podcasts and the conversation, talking to people in your bubble
- [8:30] Topsie and Amanda discuss how brands can feel unrelatable
- [13:12] Topsie explains the beauty and benefits of the revolution that is happening now and how White coaches can check their privilege
- [14:47] Being private as an influencer vs. holding space
- [18:05] Amanda discusses her ego death and shutting “perceived negativity” out to stay in a high vibration
- [19:15-]Topsie explains spiritual bypassing and how it plays a roll in racism
- [24:06] Validating emotions to create a safe container and experience
- 2[6:59] Amanda asks Topsie some specific things that may cause someone to feel unsafe in a space or brand
- [30:00] Topsie goes through 6 mindset shifts we can all practice to become an anti-racist ally and bridge the race gap in the coaching industry.
- [41:00] Topsie talks about the trauma that Black people experience every day to simply exist
n today’s episode, we’re diving into how to bridge the race gap in the online coaching space! Our guest--Topsie Vandenbosch--is a mindset coach for female entrepreneurs, a clinical mental health therapist who has focused on ambitious women that struggle with anxiety and depression, and the “truth teller” as she’s known by her audience. Topsie has an extremely powerful voice and speaks on mindset shifts we can use to be an anti-racist and bridge the race gap in the coaching industry.
In this episode, we discuss how the experience of Black coaches and entrepreneurs differs from that of white coaches, how to create equal opportunity for Black coaches in the space, and the roll spiritual bypassing plays in keeping white supremacy alive. We also dive into how white brands and influencers can come across as privileged and unrelatable to audience members who may not look like them, the harmful effects of avoiding negativity and uncomfortable conversations or emotions, validation and creating safety, standing on the side of what’s right and holding your integrity, and mindset shifts we can all practice moving forward to bridge this gap.
#BlackLivesMatter
Connect with Topsie at: https://www.instagram.com/topsievandenbosch/?hl=en
Work With Topsie: www.topsievandenbosch.com/apply
- [5:41] Topsie discusses not seeing black coaches on podcasts and the conversation, talking to people in your bubble
- [8:30] Topsie and Amanda discuss how brands can feel unrelatable
- [13:12] Topsie explains the beauty and benefits of the revolution that is happening now and how White coaches can check their privilege
- [14:47] Being private as an influencer vs. holding space
- [18:05] Amanda discusses her ego death and shutting “perceived negativity” out to stay in a high vibration
- [19:15-]Topsie explains spiritual bypassing and how it plays a roll in racism
- [24:06] Validating emotions to create a safe container and experience
- 2[6:59] Amanda asks Topsie some specific things that may cause someone to feel unsafe in a space or brand
- [30:00] Topsie goes through 6 mindset shifts we can all practice to become an anti-racist ally and bridge the race gap in the coaching industry.
- [41:00] Topsie talks about the trauma that Black people experience every day to simply exist
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219: TEACHER vs. COACH: Unhealthy Power Dynamics with Clients (and How to Come Into Balance)
Today, we’re here to talk about two Entrepreneurial Archetypes--The Teacher and The Coach. The Teacher and the Coach can show up both a healthy dynamic and an unhealthy dynamic, and both of these Archetypes can get into the healthier dynamic by using lessons from the other. When you are integrating these two archetypes into your work and practice, you can charge exactly what you want and clients will be ready and willing to pay.
In today’s episode, we break down the shadow-side of the Coach and how to call upon the teacher to create balance; and vice versa.
Learning about the shadow sides of these Archetypes, the inner child needs, boundaries the Coach and Teacher can implement, how to better communicate with clients, and create powerful relationship dynamics between you and your clients/audience will make you unstoppable.
To find out your Entrepreneurial Archetype and take our 12 question quiz, visit: www.entrepreneurialarchetype.com
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- [5:34] Diving into the Teacher Archetype
- [7:07] How we view the Teachers
- [9:54] How the Teacher can come across to others
- [11:54] How you might experience the Teacher as a client
- [15:00] The persona the Teacher likes to create
- [19:24] Diving into the Coach Archetype
- [21:38] When the Coach is unhealthy
- [24:00] The main goal of the Coach/Client relationship
- [25:31] How the client experiences the Coach
- [27:00] Boundaries for the Coach and the Teacher
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221: The Science of Energetics with Dr. Sheila Marie Campbell
Everything is made of energy--as human beings, we have anatomical, biological, physiological, chemical, neuronal, and more matter-based systems we study in Western Science. In the quantum realm, science has proven we actually made of 99.9999% “empty space,” (due to the structure of an atom), or: energy.
Today’s guest is Dr. Sheila Marie Campbell. She is a Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine with a focus in Herbology and Sacred Sexuality) and owns her own company called Nuchi. She’s here to jam with us on all things Eastern Medicine and healing, and to teach us all about Energetics (which we will break down for you).
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Find Dr. Sheila Marie Campbell on Instagram @drsheilamariecampbell and find her Sacred Sexuality course at https://www.nuchi.us/course/sacred-sexuality
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- [4:20] Dr. Campbell gives us context about her gifts, and cliff notes on how she got to be a master in her field
- [11:56] How Sheila went to Mystery School and started meditating
- [16:24] Sheila breaks down what energy and energetics is
- [27:56] Amanda asks Sheila to describe lineage and how things get passed down to us.
- [35:24] Sheila discusses power dynamics and how our power can be gained or taken from us
- [39:24] How to be discerning with your energy and not compare your energy to others
- [42:40] How can we be the most powerful with our energy?
- [49:25] Sheila explains the 5 elements of energy
- [54:53] Amanda asks Sheila to break down the energies of the 4 Entrepreneurial Archetypes
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