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#115 - How to Structure your Partnership Strategy with Asher Mathew
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
02/18/25 • 44 min
In an era where go-to-market strategies are evolving rapidly, Asher Mathew—a veteran in partnerships, ecosystems, and business transformation—makes a case for the strategic role of partnerships in modern business.
Asher unpacks how partnerships extend beyond traditional sales and marketing, influencing product development, customer acquisition, and even service delivery. Sharing how “intentionality in design” is at the core of partnership strategy, he explains how organisations can align themselves with customer needs.
So, whether you’re a startup or an enterprise, this episode will serve as a perfect playbook for leveraging partnership as a key growth multiplier rather than just another channel.
Asher, co-founder of Partnership Leaders, has long-standing experience in how modern organizations design partner strategies to enhance product adoption, customer reach, and business scalability.He highlights the importance of identifying core business strengths to determine which capabilities to build, buy, or partner for; and how to balance both horizontal and vertical partnerships.
He takes us through different models that serve different objectives, and indicates why it’s important for companies of all sizes to develop structured partner programs for scalability.
If you’re keen on learning how companies could use partnership strategies to function at scale, and get a sneak peek into the future of partnerships, tune in, as Asher shares everything there is to know.
Key Highlights
👉 Partnerships are a strategic growth lever, not just a sales channel, and modern businesses must integrate them across product development, marketing, sales, and customer success
👉 Successful partnerships require intentional design, as organizations must decide what to build, buy, or partner for, ensuring alignment with their core strengths and market positioning.
👉 Customer-driven partnerships create the most impact because instead of targeting potential partners first, companies should engage customers to understand which collaborations will bring real value.
👉 Different partnership models serve different objectives, and businesses can leverage referrals, reselling, co-selling, or OEM agreements based on their goals and market dynamics.
👉 Balancing horizontal and vertical partnerships is key, as hyperscalers like AWS and Google Cloud offer broad reach while niche vertical partnerships provide deep industry access and differentiation.
👉 Organizational structures must evolve to support partnerships, and as businesses scale, a dedicated partnership function helps prioritize, manage, and grow strategic relationships.
👉 AI and platform ecosystems are reshaping partnerships, as companies transition from traditional partner tiers to dynamic, data-driven collaborations that enhance efficiency and growth.
Topics /chapters
(00:00) How to Structure your Partnership Strategy - intro
(00:25) Asher Matthew Introduction
(02:24) Are Partnerships for all Businesses?
(05:31) Gaps to be addressed in Organizations
(11:49) Partnerships Function in Organizations
(13:44) Implications of Partnerships on Organizational Structure
(18:52) Balancing Hyperscalers and Vertical Partnerships
(29:41) Business Models of Partnerships
(31:35) The Mental Model for Selecting Partners
(33:31) Risks in Partnership Strategies
(35:44) Partnering vs. Purchasing your customers
(37:58) What’s New in Partnerships?
(41:57) Breadcrumbs and Suggestions
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/mathew-asher
Episode recorded on Jan 24, 2025
Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast
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Music
Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music

S04 Ep. 20 Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky - A Situational Update on our Ecosystemic Future
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
07/10/23 • 54 min
In this season’s final episode, we talk to Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky about how our old ideas of what's normal are disappearing. There is a need to bridge the gap between old and emerging systems, encouraging exploration and experimentation to unlock our Ecosystemic Future.
Bill Fischer has spent his entire career involved in innovation, from being a practicing development engineer in industry and government, to being an academic researcher, teacher, and writer, to being involved in several startups. He is currently a Senior Lecturer at the Sloan School of Management, at MIT, and an Emeritus Professor of Innovation Management at IMD, in Lausanne, Switzerland. Lisa Gansky is a social provocateur, serial entrepreneur, angel investor, advisor, international keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book, “The Mesh: Why the Future of Business is Sharing”. Her work on trust, the sharing economy, and innovation has been central in rethinking 21st-century governance, business models, and community dynamics.
The challenges organizations face in adapting to rapid change show that traditional organizational structures are no longer working. To adapt to the changing landscape, a combination of AI, Web3 technologies, and new governance models can enable flexible and modular ways of organizing.
New promises emerge through the overlap between organizations and software, unlocking new ecosystem potential where different players and customers come together, focusing on local relationships and embracing transience for more innovative solutions.
Above all, it’s important to keep up with optionality and dynamism, both key to the nature of Ecosystemic thinking: co-creation and increasing diversity and variance are going to be essential in the markets of the future.
These elements provide the backdrop for this Situational Update on our Ecosystemic Future.
Key Highlights
👉 The “not yet” is moving faster than the speed at which organizations can adapt.
👉 Un-centralizing for the future: creating smaller units with more autonomy.
👉 Challenges ahead: technology, jobs, and rethinking traditional career paths.
👉 The old model of “define, refine, and scale” is being disrupted by something more turbulent and community-oriented.
👉 The S-curve of technology is getting shorter, and the narrative behind it is different.
👉 Companies need T-shaped individuals to serve as hubs of people within ecosystems.
👉 Everything is 100% temporal, but our legal systems, tax codes, and educational systems can’t keep up with that model.
Topics / chapters
(00:00) Dynamic Models and Local Engagement: Nature's Inspiration for Future Relationships
(01:24) Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky introduction
(02:58) Adapting Products, Services, and Work in an Uncertain World
(14:27) Redefining Careers: From Hierarchy to Portfolio of Projects
(23:31) Exploring the Potential of Web3 Governance and Programmable Protocols
(39:46) The Path to Coherence: Navigating the Convergence and Variance in Future Markets
(51:05) Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky’s breadcrumbs
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/lisa-gansky-and-bill-fischer
Recorded on April 13, 2023.
Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/boundaryless_
- Website: https://boundaryless.io/contacts
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo
Music
Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music

S3 Ep. 14 Adam Jackson – Developing and Investing in Web3 Networks: Double Clicking on Braintrust
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
05/09/22 • 48 min
Adam Jackson founded Braintrust — the world’s first user-controlled talent platform — which aligns incentives, removes expensive middlemen, and gives value and control back to talent and organizations. Prior to founding Braintrust, Adam co-founded Doctor on Demand, the popular video telemedicine provider, with daytime talk show personality Dr. Phil.
Other notable ventures include DriverSide, a marketplace that connects car owners with mechanics, which was acquired by Advance Auto Parts in September 2011, and MarketSquare, the first online local shopping destination on the Internet, which was acquired by Intuit in September 2006. Adam is also a passionate angel investor in 100+ companies, including LTSE, SuperHuman, Filecoin, Binance, BlockFi, Automatic, Apero Health, Zenefits, and more.
A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/adam-jackson/
Key Highlights
We discussed:
> How the Braintrust model and its nodes work.
> Rewarding commercial nodes.
> The role of the non-profit foundation and association in the system.
> Maintaining the coherence of Braintrust.
> Investing in user-owned networks.
> Current experimentations in the token economy space.
> The societal impact of having a decentralized talent network.
To Find Out More About Adam’s Work:
> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajackson/
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/adamjacksonsf
> Website: https://www.usebraintrust.com/
> Braintrust’s Discord Community: https://discord.gg/rgUS9aHFCB
Other References and Mentions:
> Showing the way with Web3 Marketplaces: Braintrust — with Gabriel Luna-Ostaseski: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/braintrust/
> Braintrust: Fighting Capitalism with Capitalism, Not Boring with Packy McCormick: https://www.notboring.co/p/braintrust-fighting-capitalism-with?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
> Deep dive on the Fee Converter: https://medium.com/snowfork/introducing-the-braintrust-fee-converter-21be7c8af951
> Braintrust Academy: https://academy.usebraintrust.com/
> Kunai commercial node: https://www.usebraintrust.com/blog/new-node-addition-kunai
> Braintrust Etherscan: https://etherscan.io/address/0x799ebfabe77a6e34311eeee9825190b9ece32824
> Vitalik on quadratic voting: https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/12/07/voting3.html
> Gitcoin: https://gitcoin.co/
> $100m investment round: https://www.usebraintrust.com/blog/-100m-btrst-purchase
> Dimo: https://dimo.zone
Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless:
https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/
Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music
Recorded on 23 March 2022.

S2 Ep. 21 Tim O’Reilly – How Software is Infusing the World and What it Means
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
07/12/21 • 69 min

S2 Ep. 19 Nathan Schneider – From Platform Coops to Exit to Community
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
06/14/21 • 55 min

S2 Ep.16 Jabe Bloom – Platforming inside and between organizations: differentiation, scale, and scope
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
05/03/21 • 69 min

S2 Ep. 12 Aaron Dignan – Leadership and Legitimacy through Consent and Coherence
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
03/09/21 • 58 min

S2 Ep. 9 Laëtitia Vitaud and Albert Cañigueral – The Present (Future) of Work: Beyond Platforms
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
01/26/21 • 61 min

S2 Ep. 6 Juho Makkonen – Democratizing the Platform Economy through Marketplace as a Service
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
12/15/20 • 66 min

#97 - R.I.P. Agile, Long Live Agile 2 with Cliff Berg
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
04/01/24 • 58 min
On today’s podcast, we host someone who - has been at the forefront of the Agile revolution, and, at the same time, became one of Agile movement's most vocal critics, to the extent, that he dared to say: “R.I.P Agile”.
Cliff Berg, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Agile 2 Academy, and a leading figure in Agile and DevOps advising joins our podcast bringing his fresh perspectives on the decline of Agile. He also gives us a peek into the story of a book he recently co-authored, ‘Agile 2: The Next Iteration of Agile’.
Cliff takes us through what it means to re-imagine organizational practices and challenges the conventional framework-oriented approach, that often needs more contextualization and grounded action-based research.
Join us, as we discuss balancing leadership and self-organizing, and explore pragmatic approaches to operating successful businesses with agility and accountability.
This episode goes through a journey - we talk about Cliff’s viral post on the demise of Agile, and what he and a team of co-authors have done to consciously course-correct it, and publish a whole set of new ideas on how to approach Agile with a more contemporary and less ideological stance: Agile 2.
Cliff dismisses the narrative of “You don’t need managers”, and challenges why it’s important to reel our thoughts back in when it comes to decentralization of organizations.
He lays it out as it is: structure is not a bad thing per se, and the conversation goes through healthy ways of administering structure in organizations.
Tune in, if you’re interested in non-ideological ways to embrace agile practices, mixed with some of Boundaryless's staple topics: building optionality, entrepreneurial organizations that go big with skin in the game, and more.
Key Highlights
👉 Critical intersection between human behavior and technology, emphasizing the need for a deeper understanding of our digital coexistence.
👉 Calm Technology as an essential way to creating designs that respect human attention without overwhelming users.
👉Building tools that help users focus on the task and not the tool.
👉 Complexities of governance in technological and organizational contexts, with a focus on the potentials and pitfalls of decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs).
👉 Ways to bring a shift towards innovations that serve humanity and contribute to a more equitable future.
👉 Developing a questioning mindset for driving meaningful technological advancements.
Topics /chapters
(00:00) R.I.P. Agile, Long Live Agile 2 - Intro
(02:09) The transition from Agile 1.0 to Agile 2.0
(10:36) Solving Limitations of Agile 1.0
(18:26) Frameworks as a means to an end
(31:23) Increasing Optionality and Designing for Problem Solving
(38:16) Finding a Balance in Beauraucracy
(44:43) The transformation that sticks
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/cliff-berg/
Episode recorded on February 23, 2024
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/boundaryless_
- Website: https://boundaryless.io/contacts
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo
Music
Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music
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