
The A.R.T. of Birthing with Olivia Ford | Part Two: The Old Fashion Gay Way
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05/11/22 • 64 min
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Part Two: The Old Fashion Gay Way
Are you curious about how to get pregnant when queer?
“Don't use a turkey baster!” Olivia Ford
Olivia started her path to parenthood before being partnered. After her intuition told her it was time to pursue pregnancy, she popped the question to her gay guy friend: how would you like to make a baby with me? After 10 unsuccessful tries, she and her boo (now wife) purchased semen during a BOGO sale at a sperm bank and got pregnant with the second vial.
Tune in to hear Olivia's nine year journey to Black queer motherhood including:
- intracervical and intrauterine insemination
- pursuing pregnancy with a known donor who is living with HIV
- dating while trying to get pregnant
- the limitations and possibilities of the fertility industry for Black people and queer folks
During the interview, Olivia mentions this piece from Linda Villarosa in The New York Times Magazine entitled: "Why America’s Black Mothers and Babies Are in a Life-or-Death Crisis"
This episode is the second part of a two-part series featuring birth stories that relied on assisted reproductive technologies and it has been edited for clarity and length. To listen to the full interview, visit Patreon.com/TajaLindley.
Olivia Ford (she/her; they/their) has been engaged with HIV-related media since 2007. She is the editorial director for The Well Project, an online information, support, and advocacy resource serving a global audience of women living with HIV. She trained as a doula in 2004 and serves as a perinatal health advocate with Birthmark Doula Collective, a birth justice organization supporting pregnant and parenting people and their families in the New Orleans, Louisiana area. Olivia and her wife are the dazzled, exhausted co-mamas of a smart-mouthed toddler, Orian (pronounced like “Dorian” without the “D”).
Her full interview is available on Patreon (running time: 02:26:18)
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- Support our work on Patreon where you will have exclusive access to full length interviews with each of our guests featured this season.
- Make a one-time donation on PayPal.
- Purchase the podcast music. All sales go towards the production of the podcast and support with project expenses.
Visit www.BlackWomensLabor.com to learn more.
Credits
Creator, Host and HBIC: Taja Lindley
Audio Engineering by Lilah Larson
Music by Emma Alabaster who also served as the Pre-Production Associate Producer
Additional Music Production by Chip Belton
Vocals by Patience Sings
Mixing and Mastering by Chip Belton
Lyrics by Taja Lindley and Emma Alabaster
Logo and Graphic Design Templates by Homegirl HQ
This podcast is produced by Colored Girls Hustle
Part Two: The Old Fashion Gay Way
Are you curious about how to get pregnant when queer?
“Don't use a turkey baster!” Olivia Ford
Olivia started her path to parenthood before being partnered. After her intuition told her it was time to pursue pregnancy, she popped the question to her gay guy friend: how would you like to make a baby with me? After 10 unsuccessful tries, she and her boo (now wife) purchased semen during a BOGO sale at a sperm bank and got pregnant with the second vial.
Tune in to hear Olivia's nine year journey to Black queer motherhood including:
- intracervical and intrauterine insemination
- pursuing pregnancy with a known donor who is living with HIV
- dating while trying to get pregnant
- the limitations and possibilities of the fertility industry for Black people and queer folks
During the interview, Olivia mentions this piece from Linda Villarosa in The New York Times Magazine entitled: "Why America’s Black Mothers and Babies Are in a Life-or-Death Crisis"
This episode is the second part of a two-part series featuring birth stories that relied on assisted reproductive technologies and it has been edited for clarity and length. To listen to the full interview, visit Patreon.com/TajaLindley.
Olivia Ford (she/her; they/their) has been engaged with HIV-related media since 2007. She is the editorial director for The Well Project, an online information, support, and advocacy resource serving a global audience of women living with HIV. She trained as a doula in 2004 and serves as a perinatal health advocate with Birthmark Doula Collective, a birth justice organization supporting pregnant and parenting people and their families in the New Orleans, Louisiana area. Olivia and her wife are the dazzled, exhausted co-mamas of a smart-mouthed toddler, Orian (pronounced like “Dorian” without the “D”).
Her full interview is available on Patreon (running time: 02:26:18)
Support the Show!
- Follow @BlackWomensLabor on Instagram and turn on notifications!
- Sign up for our newsletter!
- Support our work on Patreon where you will have exclusive access to full length interviews with each of our guests featured this season.
- Make a one-time donation on PayPal.
- Purchase the podcast music. All sales go towards the production of the podcast and support with project expenses.
Visit www.BlackWomensLabor.com to learn more.
Credits
Creator, Host and HBIC: Taja Lindley
Audio Engineering by Lilah Larson
Music by Emma Alabaster who also served as the Pre-Production Associate Producer
Additional Music Production by Chip Belton
Vocals by Patience Sings
Mixing and Mastering by Chip Belton
Lyrics by Taja Lindley and Emma Alabaster
Logo and Graphic Design Templates by Homegirl HQ
This podcast is produced by Colored Girls Hustle
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Part One: The Ol’ Mama Gang
“I saw my daughter for the first time in a vision while I was meditating.” LeConté Dill
After Dr. LeConté Dill’s vision in 2014, she met her husband, had an epic first date, eloped, and began her journey to motherhood.
She soon discovered she would need some support to get pregnant, namely A.R.T.s - or assisted reproductive technologies. She leaned on in-vitro fertilization (IVF) to conceive the baby of her literal dreams and gave birth in her early 40’s right before the lockdowns in NYC Spring 2020.
Tune in to hear how this crunk public health scholar:
- created sacred ceremony and rituals to support her process
- moved through the grief of miscarriage with poetry
- addressed disrespectful medical treatment
- received bomb-ass support from her mom, hubby, and doulas (Dana Ain-Davis - author of Reproductive Injustice - and Katy Cecen) during her pregnancy, labor, and immediate postpartum
This interview has been edited for clarity and length. To listen to the full interview, visit Patreon.com/TajaLindley.
Dr. LeConté Dill is a scholar, educator, and a poet in and out of classroom and community spaces from South Central Los Angeles, California. She is an Associate Professor in the Department of African American and African Studies at Michigan State University. She listens to and shows up for urban Black girls and other youth of color and works to rigorously document their experiences of safety, resilience, resistance, and wellness. Her work has been published in Poetry Magazine, Mom Egg Review, Journal of Poetry Therapy, and The Feminist Wire. Her full interview is available on Patreon (running time: 01:31:06).
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- Purchase the podcast music (and remix!). All sales go towards the production of the podcast and support with project expenses.
Visit www.BlackWomensLabor.com to learn more.
Credits
Creator, Host and HBIC: Taja Lindley
Audio Engineering by Lilah Larson
Music by Emma Alabaster who also served as the Pre-Production Associate Producer
Additional Music Production by Chip Belton
Vocals by Patience Sings
Mixing and Mastering by Chip Belton
Lyrics by Taja Lindley and Emma Alabaster
Logo and Graphic Design Templates by Homegirl HQ
This podcast is produced by Colored Girls Hustle
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All Black Everything | Is a diverse healthcare workforce enough to eradicate racism in medicine?
Is a diverse healthcare workforce enough to eradicate racism in medicine?
The short is no.
Using race to remedy racism is not enough.
And let's talk about why with four Black providers in reproductive health: an OBGYN, a nurse midwife, a traditional midwife, and a midwifery student.
Tune in to hear the benefits of adding more Black folks to the healthcare workforce, as well as how this diversity-based approach is an incomplete strategy to remedy health inequity, including:
- The ways racism is embedded into healthcare education, training, tools and systems
- How harm can be reproduced in medical settings regardless of the race of the provider
- How Black folks can have poor experiences with Black providers
- Alternative and additional strategies to ensure better health experiences and outcomes for Black pregnant and birthing people
GUESTS
Camille A. Clare, MD, MPH, CPE, FACOG is a board-certified obstetrician and gynecologist and was recently appointed as Chair and Professor at the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology of SUNY-Downstate Health Sciences University College of Medicine and School of Public Health. Full interview on Patreon (00:57:15)
Efe Osaren has been a doula since 2014 and is currently completing her midwifery education. She has served over 200 families and is crowdfunding to help pay for her license and board exam. Efe is also a reproductive justice advocate and is the Founder of Doula Chronicles. Full interview on Patreon (01:16:10)
Nubia Earth Martin is a Community Birth Worker, Traditional Midwife, and Founder/President of Birth from The Earth Inc., a non-profit organization steeped in education and empowerment, providing a variety of health and wellness services. Full interview on Patreon (01:10:23)
Melissa Thomas* is a Black nurse midwife working in a major metropolitan area who has attended over 350 births in her career spanning over a decade in primarily hospital settings. She came on the podcast anonymously and her name has been changed to protect her identity. Full interview on Patreon (01:03:47)
SUPPORT!
- Follow @BlackWomensLabor on Instagram and turn on notifications!
- Sign up for our newsletter!
- Support our work on Patreon where you will have exclusive access to full length interviews with each of our guests featured this season.
- Make a one-time donation on PayPal.
- Purchase the podcast music (and remix!). All sales go towards the production of the podcast and support with project expenses.
Visit www.BlackWomensLabor.com to learn more and to access the studies Dr. Clare referenced in the episode.
CREDITS
Creator, Host and HBIC: Taja Lindley
Audio Engineering by Lilah Larson
Music by Emma Alabaster who also served as the Pre-Production Associate Producer
Additional Music Production by Chip Belton
Vocals by Patience Sings
Mixing and Mastering by Chip Belton
Lyrics by Taja Lindley and Emma Alabaster
Logo and Graphic Design Templates by Homegirl HQ
This podcast is produced by Colored Girls Hustle
Black Women's Dept. of Labor - The A.R.T. of Birthing with Olivia Ford | Part Two: The Old Fashion Gay Way
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[00:00:00] Olivia Ford: I'd always felt very strongly that I wanted to have children.
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