
Pat Pataranutaporn on human flourishing with AI, augmenting reasoning, enhancing motivation, and benchmarking human-AI interaction (AC Ep82)
03/26/25 • 38 min
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“We should not make technology so that we can be stupid. We should make technology so we can be even smarter... not just make the machine more intelligent, but enhance the overall intelligence—especially human intelligence.”
–Pat Pataranutaporn
About Pat PataranutapornPat Pataranutaporn is Co-Director of MIT Media Lab’s new Advancing Humans with AI (AHA) research program, alongside Pattie Maes. In addition to extensive academic publications, his research has been featured in Scientific American, MIT Tech Review, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and other leading publications. His work has been named in TIME’s “Best Inventions” lists and Fast Company’s “World Changing Ideas.”
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What you will learn
- Reimagining ai as a tool for human flourishing
- Exploring the future you project and long-term thinking
- Boosting motivation through personalized ai learning
- Enhancing critical thinking with question-based ai prompts
- Designing agents that collaborate, not dominate
- Preventing collective intelligence from becoming uniform
- Launching aha to measure ai’s real impact on people
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Technical Terms & Concepts
- Human flourishing
- Human-AI interaction
- Digital twin
- Augmented reasoning
- Multi-agent systems
- Collective intelligence
- AI bias
- Socratic questioning
- Cognitive load
- Human general intelligence (HGI)
- Artificial general intelligence (AGI)
Transcript
Ross Dawson: Pat, it is wonderful to have you on the show.
Pat Pataranutaporn: Thank you so much. It’s awesome to be here. Thanks for having me.
Ross: There’s so much to dive into, but as a starting point: you focus on human flourishing with AI, exactly. So what does that mean? Paint the big picture of AI and how it can help us to flourish as who we are and our humanity.
Pat: Yeah, that’s a great question. So I’m a researcher at MIT Media Lab. I’ve been working on human-AI interaction before it was cool—before ChatGPT took off, right?
So we have been asking this question fo...
“We should not make technology so that we can be stupid. We should make technology so we can be even smarter... not just make the machine more intelligent, but enhance the overall intelligence—especially human intelligence.”
–Pat Pataranutaporn
About Pat PataranutapornPat Pataranutaporn is Co-Director of MIT Media Lab’s new Advancing Humans with AI (AHA) research program, alongside Pattie Maes. In addition to extensive academic publications, his research has been featured in Scientific American, MIT Tech Review, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and other leading publications. His work has been named in TIME’s “Best Inventions” lists and Fast Company’s “World Changing Ideas.”
Websites:
LinkedIn Profile:
What you will learn
- Reimagining ai as a tool for human flourishing
- Exploring the future you project and long-term thinking
- Boosting motivation through personalized ai learning
- Enhancing critical thinking with question-based ai prompts
- Designing agents that collaborate, not dominate
- Preventing collective intelligence from becoming uniform
- Launching aha to measure ai’s real impact on people
Episode Resources
People
Organizations & Institutions
Technical Terms & Concepts
- Human flourishing
- Human-AI interaction
- Digital twin
- Augmented reasoning
- Multi-agent systems
- Collective intelligence
- AI bias
- Socratic questioning
- Cognitive load
- Human general intelligence (HGI)
- Artificial general intelligence (AGI)
Transcript
Ross Dawson: Pat, it is wonderful to have you on the show.
Pat Pataranutaporn: Thank you so much. It’s awesome to be here. Thanks for having me.
Ross: There’s so much to dive into, but as a starting point: you focus on human flourishing with AI, exactly. So what does that mean? Paint the big picture of AI and how it can help us to flourish as who we are and our humanity.
Pat: Yeah, that’s a great question. So I’m a researcher at MIT Media Lab. I’ve been working on human-AI interaction before it was cool—before ChatGPT took off, right?
So we have been asking this question fo...
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