
2P114: February Check-In with Bob Driver
02/12/25 • 58 min
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In this episode of the 2Principals Podcast, hosts Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost delve into fostering innovation in schools with Bob Driver, Executive Director of MASSP. They explore the significance of creating a culture of experimentation, overcoming the fear of failure, and the broader impact of school innovations. Mental health tips for principals and reminders on professional development also form key parts of the conversation. Special recognitions are given to Minnesota's Principals of the Year. Throughout, the importance of elevating leadership, energy, and ultimately the quality of education is emphasized.
00:00 Welcome and Introduction to 2P Merch
01:00 Casual Conversation and Banter
02:46 Podcast Episode Kickoff
04:20 Listener Engagement and Gratitude
05:01 Special Guest Introduction: Bob Driver
13:11 Discussion on Innovation in Education
25:45 Embracing Innovation in Education
26:22 Encouraging Teacher Expertise and Growth
27:35 Balancing Accountability and Innovation
30:47 Building a Supportive School Culture
32:24 Hope Building vs. Hope Crushing Systems
34:45 Broader Impact of School Innovations
44:47 Mental Health and Self-Care for Principals
48:44 Professional Development Opportunities
53:43 Recognizing Outstanding Principals
57:01 Final Thoughts and Key Advice
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Don't forget to check out our 2P Merch Store! Our apparel is designed for those who live and lead with purpose, focusing on mental health, stress management, and work-life balance. Dress in gear that aligns with your values and supports your journey towards a healthier, more fulfilled you.
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Email us at [email protected] if you have any questions or comments for us. We would love to answer your questions on the show! ----more----
All statements made on the 2Principals Podcast represent the personal views and opinions of Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost. These statements are made solely by the individuals in their personal capacities and are not made on behalf of, nor are they affiliated with, their respective employers.
In this episode of the 2Principals Podcast, hosts Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost delve into fostering innovation in schools with Bob Driver, Executive Director of MASSP. They explore the significance of creating a culture of experimentation, overcoming the fear of failure, and the broader impact of school innovations. Mental health tips for principals and reminders on professional development also form key parts of the conversation. Special recognitions are given to Minnesota's Principals of the Year. Throughout, the importance of elevating leadership, energy, and ultimately the quality of education is emphasized.
00:00 Welcome and Introduction to 2P Merch
01:00 Casual Conversation and Banter
02:46 Podcast Episode Kickoff
04:20 Listener Engagement and Gratitude
05:01 Special Guest Introduction: Bob Driver
13:11 Discussion on Innovation in Education
25:45 Embracing Innovation in Education
26:22 Encouraging Teacher Expertise and Growth
27:35 Balancing Accountability and Innovation
30:47 Building a Supportive School Culture
32:24 Hope Building vs. Hope Crushing Systems
34:45 Broader Impact of School Innovations
44:47 Mental Health and Self-Care for Principals
48:44 Professional Development Opportunities
53:43 Recognizing Outstanding Principals
57:01 Final Thoughts and Key Advice
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Don't forget to check out our 2P Merch Store! Our apparel is designed for those who live and lead with purpose, focusing on mental health, stress management, and work-life balance. Dress in gear that aligns with your values and supports your journey towards a healthier, more fulfilled you.
----more----Where you can find us:
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Email us at [email protected] if you have any questions or comments for us. We would love to answer your questions on the show! ----more----
All statements made on the 2Principals Podcast represent the personal views and opinions of Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost. These statements are made solely by the individuals in their personal capacities and are not made on behalf of, nor are they affiliated with, their respective employers.
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00:00 Introduction and Setting the Tone
01:09 Reflecting on Two Years of Podcasting
02:05 Engaging with the Audience
08:26 Introducing the Guest: Adam Mokelke
10:49 Defining Leadership and Servant Leadership
16:40 The Importance of Humility in Leadership
24:19 Fitness and Leadership: A Personal Journey
28:54 The Importance of Self-Care
29:37 Outdoor Education and Recess
31:15 Running in Alaska
32:51 Choosing Your Word for the Year
37:04 Supporting Former Students
39:02 Advice for New Leaders
41:25 Mental Health and Leadership
51:41 Balancing Professional and Personal Life
57:04 Future Trends in Educational Leadership
01:01:32 Final Thoughts and Gratitude
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Don't forget to check out our 2P Merch Store! Our apparel is designed for those who live and lead with purpose, focusing on mental health, stress management, and work-life balance. Dress in gear that aligns with your values and supports your journey towards a healthier, more fulfilled you.
----more----Where you can find us:
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Email us at [email protected] if you have any questions or comments for us. We would love to answer your questions on the show! ----more----
All statements made on the 2Principals Podcast represent the personal views and opinions of Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost. These statements are made solely by the individuals in their personal capacities and are not made on behalf of, nor are they affiliated with, their respective employers.
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00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter
00:29 Podcast Kickoff and Episode Introduction
01:31 Introducing the Hosts and Podcast Purpose
03:06 Discussing the 2P Frequency Framework
06:36 Website and Merchandise Updates
07:46 Introducing the Guest
13:11 Dr. Joy Karavidas' Background and Journey
16:29 Insights from Dr. Joy Karavidas' Book
21:43 Social Media and Personal Growth
27:50 Balancing Personal Growth and Professional Responsibilities
31:34 Reflecting on Personal Well-being
32:09 Challenges in Leadership
33:01 The Importance of Authenticity
35:15 Balancing Time and Responsibilities
41:08 Maintaining Mental Health
47:15 Professional Development Strategies
54:29 Empowering Middle Management
01:00:04 Cultivating Executive Presence
01:04:42 Final Thoughts and Advice
Learn more about Dr. Karavedas by visiting her website.
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Don't forget to check out our 2P Merch Store! Our apparel is designed for those who live and lead with purpose, focusing on mental health, stress management, and work-life balance. Dress in gear that aligns with your values and supports your journey towards a healthier, more fulfilled you.
----more----Where you can find us:
----more----
Email us at [email protected] if you have any questions or comments for us. We would love to answer your questions on the show! ----more----
All statements made on the 2Principals Podcast represent the personal views and opinions of Jason Paurus and Kevin Jost. These statements are made solely by the individuals in their personal capacities and are not made on behalf of, nor are they affiliated with, their respective employers.
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