
Edging in-house vs outsourcing: the economics, trade-offs, and data an optometric practice needs to measure with Drs. Jennifer Stewart, OD & Sam Hornberger, OD
02/24/25 • 74 min
Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guests on today’s show are Drs. Jennifer Stewart & Sam Hornberger, both private practice owners in their respective practices.
Sam and Jennifer join me on the show to talk about a topic that admittedly, in over 300 episodes of 20/20 Money, I haven't talked about yet: edging and the decisions around whether to bring edging in-house or continue to outsource it to your lab. We talk through how each of them made the decision to bring edging in-house—Sam making the decision after years of outsourcing it to a lab and Jennifer making the decision within the first year of launching her cold start practice. They give a peek behind the curtains on how vision plans influence the decision, the specific edgers each of them have in their practice, the economic benefits they've experienced, and how they use it as a unique differentiator and value-add to their respective patient bases.
As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed in today’s conversation by visiting our website at integratedpwm.com and clicking on the Learning Center. While there, be sure to subscribe to our monthly “planning life on purpose” newsletter that’s filled with tips and ideas to help you plan your best life, on purpose. You can also set up a Triage conversation to learn a little bit more about how we serve in the capacity of a personal and professional CFO: helping OD practice owners around the country reduce their tax bill, proactively manage cash flow, and make prudent investment decisions both in and out of their practice to ultimately help them live their best life on purpose. If you’re interested in learning more about the 20/20 Money Financial Success Masterclass, a course & platform that we created to help ODs become “brilliant at the financial basics,” please check out the link in the show notes of this episode to learn more.
And with that introduction, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Drs. Sam Hornberger & Jennifer Stewart, OD.
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guests on today’s show are Drs. Jennifer Stewart & Sam Hornberger, both private practice owners in their respective practices.
Sam and Jennifer join me on the show to talk about a topic that admittedly, in over 300 episodes of 20/20 Money, I haven't talked about yet: edging and the decisions around whether to bring edging in-house or continue to outsource it to your lab. We talk through how each of them made the decision to bring edging in-house—Sam making the decision after years of outsourcing it to a lab and Jennifer making the decision within the first year of launching her cold start practice. They give a peek behind the curtains on how vision plans influence the decision, the specific edgers each of them have in their practice, the economic benefits they've experienced, and how they use it as a unique differentiator and value-add to their respective patient bases.
As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed in today’s conversation by visiting our website at integratedpwm.com and clicking on the Learning Center. While there, be sure to subscribe to our monthly “planning life on purpose” newsletter that’s filled with tips and ideas to help you plan your best life, on purpose. You can also set up a Triage conversation to learn a little bit more about how we serve in the capacity of a personal and professional CFO: helping OD practice owners around the country reduce their tax bill, proactively manage cash flow, and make prudent investment decisions both in and out of their practice to ultimately help them live their best life on purpose. If you’re interested in learning more about the 20/20 Money Financial Success Masterclass, a course & platform that we created to help ODs become “brilliant at the financial basics,” please check out the link in the show notes of this episode to learn more.
And with that introduction, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Drs. Sam Hornberger & Jennifer Stewart, OD.
OD MastermindsTM Information Request
Resources:
20/20 Money Membership Information
Episode #256: Successful Implementation of VT in your practice with Dr. Heidi Bell
Emergent VT Training Platform for Vision Therapists
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For past episodes of 20/20 Money with full companion show notes, please check out our episode archive here!
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Providing vision therapy profitably and passionately with Dr. Leigha Nielsen, OD
Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Leigha Nielson, OD FOVDR, founder of High 5 Vision Development in New Braunfels, TX.
Leigha joins me on the show to talk about how she's created both a successful practice and a life she loves—personally and professionally—through a vision-therapy focused practice. She talks about her journey as a practice owner under the TSO (Texas State Optical) brand and how she transitioned to her own stand-alone practice and why she made the commitment to to change. She also shares the details about the operations of her practice—from the pricing discount she provides to patients that pay all in full to how she thinks about leverage and return-on-investment with the team that supports the care provided to patients, Leigha is very transparent about how she's made her practice profitable while also not compromising her passion for vision therapy.
As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed in today’s conversation by visiting our website at integratedpwm.com and clicking on the Learning Center. While there, be sure to subscribe to our monthly “planning life on purpose” newsletter that’s filled with tips and ideas to help you plan your best life, on purpose. You can also set up a Triage conversation to learn a little bit more about how we serve in the capacity of a personal and professional CFO: helping OD practice owners around the country reduce their tax bill, proactively manage cash flow, and make prudent investment decisions both in and out of their practice to ultimately help them live their best life on purpose. If you’re interested in learning more about the 20/20 Money Financial Success Masterclass, a course & platform that we created to help ODs become “brilliant at the financial basics,” please check out the link in the show notes of this episode to learn more.
And with that introduction, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Dr. Leigha Nielsen, OD, FOVDR.
OD MastermindsTM Information Request
Resources:
20/20 Money Membership Information
Episode #256: Successful Implementation of VT in your practice with Dr. Heidi Bell
Emergent VT Training Platform for Vision Therapists
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Stitcher —————————————————————————————
For past episodes of 20/20 Money with full companion show notes, please check out our episode archive here!
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Making good decisions (and avoiding costly mistakes) when purchasing optometry equipment w/ Rick Norwood
Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Rick Norwood, founder & President of Norwood Device & Diagnostics. Rick joins me on the show to talk through an often-discussed topic in practice ownership, and that is the responsible purchasing of equipment. We talk through how practice owners should evaluate various suppliers, the cadence and frequency of replacing and upgrading your equipment, and how to avoid purchasing "buyer's remorse" through the process.
As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed in today’s conversation by visiting our website at integratedpwm.com and clicking on the Learning Center. While there, be sure to subscribe to our monthly “planning life on purpose” newsletter that’s filled with tips and ideas to help you plan your best life, on purpose. You can also set up a Triage conversation to learn a little bit more about how we serve in the capacity of a personal and professional CFO: helping OD practice owners around the country reduce their tax bill, proactively manage cash flow, and make prudent investment decisions both in and out of their practice to ultimately help them live their best life on purpose. Lastly, if you’re interested in learning more about the 20/20 Money Financial Success Masterclass, a course & platform that we created to help ODs become “brilliant at the financial basics,” please check out the link in the show notes of this episode to learn more.
And with that introduction, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Rick Norwood.
Resources:
20/20 Money Masterclass Information
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For past episodes of 20/20 Money with full companion show notes, please check out our episode archive here!
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