
#62a Ling Chung - Career Pivot to Uber / Interviewing Process / Thoughtful Career Change
08/02/22 • 37 min
This recording is again with Ling Chung who you heard from in the previous week's episode #62. Ling went through a career pivot and we though it would be helpful and insightful to share with our listeners as you'll hear there is a such rich advice throughout.
Loyal "wish I knew" listener / Making a career change / Generalist vs specialist / The Mess Exterminator / Being pragmatic about her next role / Hundreds of applications sent out / Interviewing with 7 companies at one time / It doesn't always have to be about "who" you know / Great advice on looking for another job / Knowing her passion and preparing for it / Landing a job at Uber / Wanting a GM role in the future, rounded experience / Finding a new job is an emotional process / Show up daily and do the work / Imposter syndrome and reverse mentoring
Want to be a guest? Email me at [email protected]!
This recording is again with Ling Chung who you heard from in the previous week's episode #62. Ling went through a career pivot and we though it would be helpful and insightful to share with our listeners as you'll hear there is a such rich advice throughout.
Loyal "wish I knew" listener / Making a career change / Generalist vs specialist / The Mess Exterminator / Being pragmatic about her next role / Hundreds of applications sent out / Interviewing with 7 companies at one time / It doesn't always have to be about "who" you know / Great advice on looking for another job / Knowing her passion and preparing for it / Landing a job at Uber / Wanting a GM role in the future, rounded experience / Finding a new job is an emotional process / Show up daily and do the work / Imposter syndrome and reverse mentoring
Want to be a guest? Email me at [email protected]!
Previous Episode

#62 Ling Chung - Senior Manager Ecommerce / Volunteering / Mapping out Values / Taiwan - Singapore - Canada
Welcome to another episode of "Wish I Knew . . . "
A podcast where I speak with people about their careers focusing on their success, advice, mentoring and listening to interesting stories.
I'm your host Gary Nowak and today I have an open and honest conversation with my guest Ling Chung. I just loved her work ethic and perspective on her career.
Career Background:
- Unilever ~3 years as Senior Manager, Ecommerce
- Prior to
- Brand Manager for Schick Disposables
- Energizer 6 years
- Pepsico
York University bachelor in Marketing
- Born in Taiwan, raised in Singapore and lives in Canada
Highlights
- One of my avid listeners
Great first job as a translator Taking notes in her spare time while on vacation
Volunteering as a pillar to her career
Getting a warm hand off for her first job
Don't be discouraged if your resume isn't picked out inititially
Mom being a massive influence
Being "Top of Mind" for people who can support your career
Another "tell the world" perspective
Aligning your actions to what you want out of the world
Likeability and kindness in your career
Mapping our your values
- #1 is building human connections
- Defining your values
Being a Generalist vs specialist
Being hard to replicate in your career
Being comfortable with ambiguity and things being a mess
Making decisions - does this opportunity open more doors
Top 3 values
- Human connections
- Curiosity
- Well being for society
Proud moment is a great one
Making superstars of your team instead of you
Great conversation with someone special
Want to be a guest? Email me at [email protected]!
Next Episode

Mike Saum - 30 Year Navy Career / Civil Engineer / Adapting to new environments / KNOW yourself
I'm your host Gary Nowak and I've got an American hero for you, Mike Saum served our country in the US Navy for almost 30 years and never been stationed on a ship, I know right?
Background
Studied
- Civil engineering at union college
Navy career where he worked as:
- Commanding officer
- Engineering and Acquisition director
- Public works office
- Commander naval construction
- Commanding officer
Worked in some great places
- Pearl harbor
- San Diego
- Sicily / Spain
- Pentagon
VP of Business Development for AECOM
Adjunct professor at California Lutheran University
Highlights
- Being a Boat boy and a Jack of all trades as a boy
- Following Carl into engineering
- Best laid plans Navy then a school teacher
- Having an epiphany with a professor in college that changed his career trajectory
- Seeking advice on the military career
- First deployment to Spain the choosing Sicily
- Getting advice to get broaden his experience to progress further in his career
- Misconception of being in the navy
- The 3 major things you can do in the Navy
- The major inflection point in the military
- Stepping to every job
- Another imposter syndrome discussion
- Seeing your holes
- Mentoring in the military
- Great advice given most
- The job fills the void if you're not careful, learn yourself
- What mike does well and how it will serve him in his next role
- Moving 15 times in the military and how his kids adapted
- Pearl Harbor stationing
- DC and the pentagon
- Getting help with career moves
- Finally being a professor
- Knowing yourself and filling up space
Want to be a guest? Email me at [email protected]!
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