
The Ethics of Psychedelics
05/09/23 • 48 min
Today, we have a very special Webdelics episode for you. Plant medicine and psychedelics have been subject to unfair criticism from the very beginning. Sadly, some of that criticism has evolved into false facts and myths about its use, benefits and need in our society. My two renowned guests today will clear the air around this subject and set the record straight. Sandra Dreisbach specializes in exploring ethical decision making and moral philosophy. Yonason Goldson is a TEDx speaker, presenter, and business advisor.
Listen in as together, the three of us venture on a journey to find out the truth about plant medicine and its uses with the intention of getting rid of the myths and changing the current narrative about psychedelics. This is a special two guest episode that you don’t want to miss.
In This Episode
- (02:01) – Scott welcomes Yonason and Sandra to Webdelics.
- (07:12) – Yonason’s advice on anyone seeking ethical guidance.
- (09:42) – Being conservative with a small ‘c’.
- (07:29) – The ethical situation faced by civil rights heroes with deep rooted trauma.
- (12:49) – Sandra’s view on the topic of discussion.
- (18:57) – Ethical issues with plant medicine and engage in psychedelics.
- (23:50) – The impact of the decision to take psychedelics.
- (25:25) – How there can be collateral damage as one develops themselves.
- (34:09) – Psychedelics as a tool to connect with the metaphysical greater.
- (39:22) – You don’t need psychedelics to find spirit.
- (41:25) – How to point towards the soul.
- (43:55) – Enhancing the relationship with God.
Guest
Today’s guests are Yonason Goldson and Sandra Dreisbach. Sandra is an ethicist with a PhD in philosophy, exploring ethical decision making and moral philosophy. She has taught bioethics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and worked for many years in the tech industry, primarily at Apple. Yonason Goldson is a keynote speaker, TEDx presenter, trainer, coach and business advisor. He works with leaders to create a culture of ethics that builds trust, sparks initiative, and drives productivity. He is also a rabbi and a podcast host.
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Yonason Goldson
Dr. Sandra Dreisbach
Today, we have a very special Webdelics episode for you. Plant medicine and psychedelics have been subject to unfair criticism from the very beginning. Sadly, some of that criticism has evolved into false facts and myths about its use, benefits and need in our society. My two renowned guests today will clear the air around this subject and set the record straight. Sandra Dreisbach specializes in exploring ethical decision making and moral philosophy. Yonason Goldson is a TEDx speaker, presenter, and business advisor.
Listen in as together, the three of us venture on a journey to find out the truth about plant medicine and its uses with the intention of getting rid of the myths and changing the current narrative about psychedelics. This is a special two guest episode that you don’t want to miss.
In This Episode
- (02:01) – Scott welcomes Yonason and Sandra to Webdelics.
- (07:12) – Yonason’s advice on anyone seeking ethical guidance.
- (09:42) – Being conservative with a small ‘c’.
- (07:29) – The ethical situation faced by civil rights heroes with deep rooted trauma.
- (12:49) – Sandra’s view on the topic of discussion.
- (18:57) – Ethical issues with plant medicine and engage in psychedelics.
- (23:50) – The impact of the decision to take psychedelics.
- (25:25) – How there can be collateral damage as one develops themselves.
- (34:09) – Psychedelics as a tool to connect with the metaphysical greater.
- (39:22) – You don’t need psychedelics to find spirit.
- (41:25) – How to point towards the soul.
- (43:55) – Enhancing the relationship with God.
Guest
Today’s guests are Yonason Goldson and Sandra Dreisbach. Sandra is an ethicist with a PhD in philosophy, exploring ethical decision making and moral philosophy. She has taught bioethics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and worked for many years in the tech industry, primarily at Apple. Yonason Goldson is a keynote speaker, TEDx presenter, trainer, coach and business advisor. He works with leaders to create a culture of ethics that builds trust, sparks initiative, and drives productivity. He is also a rabbi and a podcast host.
Resources & Links
Webdelics
- https://www.webdelics.com/
- https://www.facebook.com/webdelics/?ref=pages_you_manage
- https://twitter.com/webdelics
- https://www.youtube.com/@webdelics
- https://www.linkedin.com/company/webdelics/
- https://www.instagram.com/webdelics/
Yonason Goldson
Dr. Sandra Dreisbach
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A New Era of Belief: Psychedelics & Faith with Owen Fitzpatrick
People have gone on psychedelic journeys on this show. One thing that comes up routinely is the transformational nature of those psychedelic experiences often described as profoundly spiritual. This raises the question that will be the topic of discussion today. What is the relationship between the spiritual nature of those experiences and the religious beliefs that is the foundation of millions of people today?
Answering that will be no easy feat, so we have brought an expert for today’s episode. Scott sits down with Owen Fitzpatrick, social psychologist, and author and together they talk about the psychedelic renaissance and what it means for people of faith as well as those with no faith.
In This Episode
- (02:00) – Scott introduces Owen Fitzpatrick to the show.
- (03:54) – What does the psychedelics renaissance mean for people?
- (06:23) – Scott keeps it real and corrects Owen about being a cool nerd.
- (07:29) – Owen offers a unique perspective on beliefs.
- (13:29) – Discussing depression as an altered mental state.
- (19:33) – How does a thought become a belief?
- (25:13) – On psychedelics and their ability to shift the narrative or perceiving events.
- (31:14) – Psychedelics Renaissance and its implications on neuroplasticity.
- (37:08) – Owen gives a final takeaway for the audience.
Guest
Owen Fitzpatrick is a social psychologist, storyteller, and renowned author, hailing from Dublin, Ireland. He has traveled to over 100 countries around the world and his education credentials include Harvard and MIT. Owen’s specialty is applying psychology and neuroscience to help leaders and organizations do better. He is also a TED and international speaker and author of 9 books with another one on the way.
Resources & Links
Webdelics
- https://www.webdelics.com/
- https://www.facebook.com/webdelics/?ref=pages_you_manage
- https://twitter.com/webdelics
- https://www.youtube.com/@webdelics
- https://www.linkedin.com/company/webdelics/
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Owen Fitzpatrick
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Psychedelics Made Me an Entrepreneur: Psychedelics and Career
Life is full of twists and turns and when you think you might have it all figured out, something else happens. You can’t go back and change the life you lived, but you can use your past as a learning experience.
In today’s episode, Scott spends time talking to Cesar Marin about the impact psychedelics have on his life, how they’ve given him clarity on his past and present, and their role in helping him sculpt his future. They also talk about Cultivating Wisdom; his exciting new apparel brand and the impact it’s having on him and his base.
This promises to be an incredible conversation and one that will give you valuable insights into how to navigate your personal journey through the exciting world of psychedelics!
In this Episode
- (1:10) - Scott introduces Cesar Marin
- (4:11) – Scott and Cesar discuss his journey from a CNN producer to a micro-dosing entrepreneur.
- (4:30) – Cesar shares how psychedelics came into his life during a transition.
- (7:00) – Scott asks Cesar how his life would be different if psychedelics hadn’t come into his life.
- (12:02) – Protection from micro-dose risks.
- (14:40) – Cesar and his addiction to cannabis.
- (19:00) - Dispelling the myth that cannabis and psychedelics are the same.
- (25:00) – Psychedelics gave him clarity when reflecting on his young life.
- (32:12) – With psychedelics he has become present in his problems as opposed to hiding.
- (37:17) – Benefits to entrepreneurs.
- (41:24) – Psychedelics ushered in a version of himself he might never have met without them.
Guest
Cesar Marin is a wellness innovator and true champion of mental health. The founder of Cultivating Wisdom, an apparel company dedicated to people who want to manifest how micro-dosing has changed their lives, Cesar spent over two decades working in corporate America before embarking on his life’s passion. He’s devoted his time to helping people all over the world improve their state of living by debunking stigmas and misconceptions surrounding the use of psychedelics, opening their minds, and freeing them to live their best lives.
Resources & Links
Webdelics
- https://www.webdelics.com/
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- https://twitter.com/webdelics
- https://www.youtube.com/@webdelics
- https://www.linkedin.com/company/webdelics/
- https://www.instagram.com/webdelics/
Cesar Marin
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