
Waterside Chat with Kevin Scribner - Fisherman, Poet and Advocate
12/28/23 • 55 min
Kevin Scribner joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network in December 2023 for an online Waterside Chat with host Tom Sadler. Affectionally known as "Scribfish" by friends and colleagues, Kevin is a fisherman, poet, and advocate known for his eclectic and wide-ranging interests related to marine resource issues. Kevin and Tom covered a lot of ground (and water), including:
- How "if you are what you eat", Kevin has become a salmon many times over
- How salmon runs in the Pacific Northwest are hurt by bad management practices on dry land ("What runs off the land is how the land talks to the water")
- How to work with landowners in a market-based program to improve their practices and help them earn a "Salmon Safe" designation
- How this model can be applied to other species and other places, which is why he's recently been working with fishermen in Japan and Hawaii
- How using local resources to solve local problems can help keep food systems (and people!) working during times of duress
- Why you have to be a dreamer and an optimist to keep fishing
Listen to the full conversation to hear about these topics and much more!
Mentioned in this Chat:
https://salmonsafe.org/
https://wavefoundation.org/
https://localcatch.org
Watch this Chat on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQhJjuhgs_4
Watch more Waterside Chats or subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/
Kevin Scribner joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network in December 2023 for an online Waterside Chat with host Tom Sadler. Affectionally known as "Scribfish" by friends and colleagues, Kevin is a fisherman, poet, and advocate known for his eclectic and wide-ranging interests related to marine resource issues. Kevin and Tom covered a lot of ground (and water), including:
- How "if you are what you eat", Kevin has become a salmon many times over
- How salmon runs in the Pacific Northwest are hurt by bad management practices on dry land ("What runs off the land is how the land talks to the water")
- How to work with landowners in a market-based program to improve their practices and help them earn a "Salmon Safe" designation
- How this model can be applied to other species and other places, which is why he's recently been working with fishermen in Japan and Hawaii
- How using local resources to solve local problems can help keep food systems (and people!) working during times of duress
- Why you have to be a dreamer and an optimist to keep fishing
Listen to the full conversation to hear about these topics and much more!
Mentioned in this Chat:
https://salmonsafe.org/
https://wavefoundation.org/
https://localcatch.org
Watch this Chat on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQhJjuhgs_4
Watch more Waterside Chats or subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/
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Marine Sanctuaries & Protected Waters: A Waterside Chat with Joel Johnson
Joel Johnson, the President and CEO of the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation, joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network and host Tom Sadler for an online Waterside Chat on Friday, September 22nd.
The foundation is a leading voice for U.S. protected waters, working with communities to conserve and expand those special places for a healthy ocean, coasts, and Great Lakes. The foundation safeguards species and the places they call home, and preserves America's maritime history.
* More about the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation: https://marinesanctuary.org/
* Watch more Waterside Chats/subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/
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Salmon, Subsistence, Pebble Mine and More: Waterside Chat with Melanie Brown of SalmonState
SalmonState's Melanie Brown joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network for an online Waterside Chat on January 23rd, 2024. Melanie fishes commercially in Bristol Bay in Alaska, the fourth generation of her family to make a living on the water. In her role as outreach director at SalmonState, Melanie builds spheres of influence to address marine policy challenges. In a conversation that started with a poem and ended with a song, Melanie and host Tom Sadler talked about:
- The status of the Pebble Mine fight, which now moves to a federal district court, though Melanie hopes for an eventual legislative solution
- How she was born into a fishing family, with her great-great grandfather still fishing when she started at ten years old (she got her permit from him when he retired) and her children following her
- Her work with SalmonState, which grew out of Trout Unlimited's original organizing against Pebble Mine and now covers other issues in the Bering Sea and waters around Alaska, particularly bycatch
- How the Pebble Fight brought together sport fishing interests, commercial fishing interests and Alaska's First People around protecting Bristol Bay
- How mining development in Canada threatens U.S. waters, because "everything flows downstream"
- The status of Magnuson-Stevens reauthorization, plus the work to derail a late Trump administration rule that would open 28 million acres of land to mining and oil & gas exploration
- How wild salmon and other species including caribou play a big role in feeding people in Alaska, particularly the state's First People
And much, much more!
Mentioned in this Episode:
- SalmonState: https://salmonstate.org/
- Help keep protections in place for over 28 million acres: https://www.alaskalands.org/take-action
- About the Magnuson-Stevens Act and its bipartisan tradition: https://conservefish.org/healthy-oceans/magnuson-stevens-act-upholding-a-legacy-of-success/
Watch more Waterside Chats or subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/
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