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Waterside Chat

Waterside Chat

Marine Fish Conservation Network

The Marine Fish Conservation Network's Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode, the Network's Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation and coastal ways of life.
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best Waterside Chat episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to Waterside Chat for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite Waterside Chat episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

SalmonState's Melanie Brown joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network for an online Waterside Chat on January 23rd, 2024. Melanie fishes commercially in Bristol Bay in Alaska, the fourth generation of her family to make a living on the water. In her role as outreach director at SalmonState, Melanie builds spheres of influence to address marine policy challenges. In a conversation that started with a poem and ended with a song, Melanie and host Tom Sadler talked about:

  • The status of the Pebble Mine fight, which now moves to a federal district court, though Melanie hopes for an eventual legislative solution
  • How she was born into a fishing family, with her great-great grandfather still fishing when she started at ten years old (she got her permit from him when he retired) and her children following her
  • Her work with SalmonState, which grew out of Trout Unlimited's original organizing against Pebble Mine and now covers other issues in the Bering Sea and waters around Alaska, particularly bycatch
  • How the Pebble Fight brought together sport fishing interests, commercial fishing interests and Alaska's First People around protecting Bristol Bay
  • How mining development in Canada threatens U.S. waters, because "everything flows downstream"
  • The status of Magnuson-Stevens reauthorization, plus the work to derail a late Trump administration rule that would open 28 million acres of land to mining and oil & gas exploration
  • How wild salmon and other species including caribou play a big role in feeding people in Alaska, particularly the state's First People

And much, much more!
Mentioned in this Episode:

Watch more Waterside Chats or subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/

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In this Waterside Chat episode, Capt. Lucas Bissett joined host Tom Sadler on September 28, 2022. Lucas is the executive director of the American Fly Fishing Trade Association, and he's also an award winning saltwater fly-fishing guide, a member of the Marine Fish Conservation Network's National Policy Council and a stalwart conservation advocate. Lucas and Tom - old friends and fellow fishing guides - talked about:
*Why fly fishing is such a central part of Lucas's life, going back to his childhood in Louisiana
*How Louisiana - which loses a football field of land to the sea every 100 minutes - is the poster child for the devastating effects humans can have on an environment
*How the Black Mangrove Project, which Lucas founded, has blossomed into something far larger than him
*Why it's impossible to have any conversation around a marine or freshwater fishery without talking climate change
*Why we need to include climate-change components into all of our fisheries management regimes
*How fly-fishing can unite us past the partisan squabbles. Once you experience a day of fishing with someone, he says, that person becomes a real friend
Lucas also highlighted Tomorrow's Fish, an AFFTA project that "contextualize the importance of engaging in saltwater fisheries conservation".
More:
AFFTA: https://affta.org/
Black Mangrove Project: https://www.anglersbetteringla.org/
Tomorrow's Fish: https://afftafisheriesfund.org/blogour-view/tomorrows-fish

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Bob Rees of the Northwest Guides and Anglers Association joined Waterside Chat host Tom Sadler on April 19, 2023 to talk about salmon, steelhead and conservation in the Pacific Northwest. Among many topics, they discussed:
* How climate change and forest-clearing have raised water temperatures in many streams to the point that juvenile salmonids cannot thrive and often can't survive at all. Fish are a forest product, like timber, and forest management needs to take their survival into account
* How the Snake River Dams have damaged or destroyed salmon runs that local communities have relied on for many years
* How fishing guides and others whose livelihoods depend on healthy stocks of salmon and steelhead are working together to change public policy around fisheries and conservation.
* Why even an email or a letter to a legislator or the Board of Forestry can make a difference
* Tips for fishing in Oregon waters this year
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The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats.

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Brad Warren, president of Global Ocean Health, joined host Tom Sadler of the Marine Fish Conservation Network on May 31, 2023 for an online Waterside Chat. Global Ocean Health is based around the idea that when the "health of the ocean itself is threatened, the strongest champions are people who depend on it for a living." Brad and host Tom Sadler talked about:
* How the seeing salmon reduced to a shadow of their former abundance - and size - motivated him and so many others to take action.
* Why melting glaciers and ocean acidification are bad news for fish populations, and how fish losses from heat and drought are a direct and visible result of climate change.
* How frontline food producers can see the unraveling of the ecosystems that make us dinner.
* The power of fishermen speaking directly to Congress about the threat to their livelihoods and their ability to feed the rest of us
* How Global Ocean Health is working with tribal nations to address climate change.
* Why the tribal ethic of multi-generational stewardship is essential to helping restore the ocean, atmosphere, and land balance.
* How Global Ocean Health, helps seafood producers, resource-dependent communities and scientists understand climate change, document its consequences, and protect fishery resources and ecosystems.
More about Global Ocean Health: http://globaloceanhealth.org/
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
More about the Network: https://conservefish.org/

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Colles Stowell, founder and president of the One Fish Foundation, joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network for an online Waterside Chat on May 30, 2024. Colles and host Tom Sadler discussed:

  • How our seafood system has changed from mostly local or domestic to mostly imported in a few short decades
  • How we've become so dependent on an industrialized food system that we don't know where our food is coming from
  • The power of One Fish Foundation's Know Your Fish dinners, which connect seafood consumers with the people who catch their food and start people on the path to owning their relationship with seafood
  • How One Fish Foundation goes to schools, including bringing a lobster trap to a kindergarten class
  • Why "good, clean and fair" should be a sustainable-seafood mantra
  • The important role of chefs in the seafood conversation
  • How consolidation in the seafood-distribution industry hurts local fishermen
  • And much, much more!

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MORE ABOUT COLLES:
Colles Stowell's love of fish, fishing and food started early. From the Louisiana bayous of his youth, he moved on to New Hampshire's lakes and rivers and trout streams, world-class salmon rivers in Canada, and bonefish flats in the Bahamas. Along the way, he discovered a passion both for local seafood and for writing.
Stowell's journalism career includes writing for The Boston Globe, United Press International and New Hampshire Public Radio. He began covering sustainable fisheries and seafood in 2011, and he now focuses on issues ranging from privatization of our oceans to the devastating impact of the proposed Pebble Mine in Bristol Bay, Alaska.
Of the One Fish Foundation, Colles says, "Starting the Foundation is the confluence of my career and personal passions. My deep-seated interest in fisheries and in striking the right balance to support well-managed fisheries, transparent, local seafood systems, and healthy oceans for future generations drives One Fish Foundation."
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The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
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On November 9th, 2022, Vicki Nichols Goldstein of the Inland Oceans Coalition joined host Tom Sadler of the Marine Fish Conservation Network for a Waterside Chat. Vicki and Tom discussed:
*What land-to-sea stewardship means, and why you don’t have to see the ocean to protect it.
*How we all have a direct impact on the cycles of life in the ocean, no matter where we live.
*Vicki’s extensive background in ocean conservation, which has informed her work with stakeholders including fishermen and the fishing industry.
*How the Coalition gives inland communities a voice in protecting our ocean by empowering them to become ocean champions in their communities. Inland communities and the ocean are directly connected, and the Coalition works to turn those connections into action for greater ocean and water conservation.
*How the Coalition connects them with their legislative leaders and decisionmakers.
*How the Coalition connects with unlikely allies such as farmers, who share an interest in water health. Sustainable oceans, sustainable land!
*How partnerships have extended the Coalition’s reach to 26 countries.
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
The Inland Ocean Coalition: https://inlandoceancoalition.org
The Marine Fish Conservation Network: https://www.conservefish.org

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[Recorded August 24, 2022]
On August 24, 2022, Waterside Chat host Tom Sadler was joined by Marissa Merculieff, director of the Office of Justice and Governance Administration for the Aleut Community of Saint Paul Island, and Lauren Divine, director of the Ecosystem Conservation Office for the Tribal Government of Saint Paul Island.

Tom and his guests talked about Alaĝum Kanuux (Heart of the Ocean) and the potential for this marine sanctuary in the Bering Sea off Alaska, including a historic co-management agreement between the Aleut Community of St. Paul Island and the federal government to establish co-equal governance and decision making for the sanctuary. Among many other topics, they discussed:

  • The importance of the local community’s voice driving in the sanctuary nomination
  • How the Aleut people’s history of forced migration, slavery and forced labor on the Pribilof Islands have shaped their approach to Alaĝum Kanuux’s proposal to co-manage the sanctuary with the federal government
  • The powerful relationship local residents have with the region’s fur seals, whose population is unfortunately declining
  • The islands’ boat-building heritage
  • The importance of fishing to the islands, including the local long-line, small-boat commercial halibut fishing fleet
  • How bycatch can shut down a whole fishery
  • The economic and conservation implications of the resources and prominence that come with a sanctuary designation

For more on the islands’ history, Tom’s guests recommended “Slaves of the Harvest” (book, unfortunately out of print) and “People of the Seal” (YouTube video).

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Kevin Scribner joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network in December 2023 for an online Waterside Chat with host Tom Sadler. Affectionally known as "Scribfish" by friends and colleagues, Kevin is a fisherman, poet, and advocate known for his eclectic and wide-ranging interests related to marine resource issues. Kevin and Tom covered a lot of ground (and water), including:

  • How "if you are what you eat", Kevin has become a salmon many times over
  • How salmon runs in the Pacific Northwest are hurt by bad management practices on dry land ("What runs off the land is how the land talks to the water")
  • How to work with landowners in a market-based program to improve their practices and help them earn a "Salmon Safe" designation
  • How this model can be applied to other species and other places, which is why he's recently been working with fishermen in Japan and Hawaii
  • How using local resources to solve local problems can help keep food systems (and people!) working during times of duress
  • Why you have to be a dreamer and an optimist to keep fishing

Listen to the full conversation to hear about these topics and much more!
Mentioned in this Chat:
https://salmonsafe.org/
https://wavefoundation.org/
https://localcatch.org
Watch this Chat on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQhJjuhgs_4
Watch more Waterside Chats or subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/

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The Wave Foundation Founder and President Justin Zeulner joined host Tom Sadler for a Waterside Chat on February 28, 2023, about The Wave's large-scale approaches to food programs around equity, environmental stewardship, diversity and resilience, with an emphasis on local production and healthy communities.
The organization's big goals involve systemic change in the ways we feed ourselves as a society, but The Wave pivoted during Covid to providing services in the Pacific Northwest, particularly to rural and tribal communities not being effectively served by food banks and other traditional interventions. The Wave distributed eight million pounds of healthy, sustainably grown and culturally appropriate food in two years of the pandemic, including food boxes based around Alaska salmon or tribal-caught Columbia River salmon and filled out with other products grown locally in the Northwest.
The food box program and The Wave's work to introduce locally and sustainably grown ingredients to sports arenas and other large public venues have had ripple effects, since a commitment to purchase allowed farmers to invest in capacity and grow their operations. Learn more about how Justin's time as a pioneering snowboarder sparked his interest in conservation, and how his experience with Paul Allen and the Green Sports Alliance helped The Wave come together.
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.

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Eric Brazer joined host Tom Sadler for a Waterside Chat on April 26th, 2023. Eric is the deputy director of the Gulf of Mexico Reef Fish Shareholders' Alliance, a member of the Network’s Policy Council, and a voice on behalf of science-based management of Gulf Red Snapper and other species. Among many other things, Eric and Tom discussed:

  • How despite years of fisheries conservation successes, the Gulf is telling us it's in trouble. Populations of fish such as gag grouper have declined to their lowest level on record, prompting huge cuts in fishing quotas.
  • The need for ecosystem management rather than managing individual species in isolation.
  • The need for fisheries managers to have experience in fisheries management or on the water. The Gulf management council has more people named "Bob" serving on it right now than it does actual commercial fishermen.
  • How the Shareholder Alliance’s Quota Bank that helps reduce red snapper discards in the eastern Gulf by holding participants to a high standard of accountability in a market-based system.
  • The Alliance's policy work to support good science and data, to educate regional and federal regulators, and to play an active role in shaping our commercial fishing regulations.
  • Their work with the Gulf Wild brand program, supporting a seafood traceability program built by fishermen for fishermen.
  • How the Alliance fosters the next generation of conservation-minded fishermen.
  • The complex effects of climate change on Gulf fish populations.

More about the Gulf of Mexico Reef Fish Shareholders' Alliance: https://shareholdersalliance.org/
More about the Gulf Wild program: https://gulfwild.com/
The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.
Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/

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How many episodes does Waterside Chat have?

Waterside Chat currently has 21 episodes available.

What topics does Waterside Chat cover?

The podcast is about News, Fisheries, Conservation, Environment, Climate Change, Podcasts and Fishing.

What is the most popular episode on Waterside Chat?

The episode title 'Waterside Chat with Lucas Bissett, Fishing Guide and AFFTA Executive Director' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Waterside Chat?

The average episode length on Waterside Chat is 52 minutes.

How often are episodes of Waterside Chat released?

Episodes of Waterside Chat are typically released every 28 days, 13 hours.

When was the first episode of Waterside Chat?

The first episode of Waterside Chat was released on Sep 7, 2022.

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