
Senior Rules Officials Carlton “Slugger” White and Mark Russell
09/24/19 • 23 min
With a lifetime of experience between them, Carlton “Slugger” White and Mark Russell have been making rules decisions on the PGA TOUR since the early 1980s. Now both vice presidents of rules and competitions, the pair lead the PGA TOUR Rules Committee and act as senior rules officials at PGA TOUR events around the world. Both always strive to ensure fair play, no matter the player or the circumstance.
The two seasoned veterans dish on slow play and dive into memorable decisions like Rory McIlroy's unfortunate bunker incident at THE NORTHERN TRUST in 2019, and the recent discussions on pace of play.
Up & Down is a production of the PGA TOUR.
On each episode, we’re exploring the profound personal connections that surround our sport as people in the game come together to dive deeper into their relationship than they ever have before.
With a lifetime of experience between them, Carlton “Slugger” White and Mark Russell have been making rules decisions on the PGA TOUR since the early 1980s. Now both vice presidents of rules and competitions, the pair lead the PGA TOUR Rules Committee and act as senior rules officials at PGA TOUR events around the world. Both always strive to ensure fair play, no matter the player or the circumstance.
The two seasoned veterans dish on slow play and dive into memorable decisions like Rory McIlroy's unfortunate bunker incident at THE NORTHERN TRUST in 2019, and the recent discussions on pace of play.
Up & Down is a production of the PGA TOUR.
On each episode, we’re exploring the profound personal connections that surround our sport as people in the game come together to dive deeper into their relationship than they ever have before.
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