
21: The Secret Language of Cult Brands
11/09/21 • 44 min
Cults make effective brands, and today, they’re all around us. We engage with them on some level every day, and cult experiences have come to define so much of who we are as a society that you have to ask, how did we get here?
Perhaps the most insidious way cults have influenced the world around us is in everyday language that’s meant to control behaviors and change perspectives. It’s language we use with friends and colleagues, language in our media and content, and language we hear coming from today’s most powerful CEOs, on branded websites and in keynote addresses.
In this episode we’re talking with Amanda Montell, a language scholar and author of the critically acclaimed book, ‘Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism’ to understand why cults have had a resurgence in branding and in real life.
You’d be surprised to know that some of the successful brands of our time were either founded by, owned by, or closely tied to cults. There’s a very good chance that some influencer you’re following has at least borrowed from cult culture or knowingly created a radicalized cult around themselves. There are the cults we joke about like SoulCycle or Supreme, but they use the same dynamics and tools as the cults we like to gasp at in documentaries.
Cults and businesses have always been intertwined, and understanding how they use the power of language to move people is the first step to decoding how they work.
Links to interesting things mentioned in this episode and further reading:
- Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism by Amanda Montell (Amazon)
- What LuLaRoe and Other MLMs Have In Common With Cults (Bustle)
- Elon Musk Is Not Just a Celebrity (The Atlantic)
- Five tactics used to spread vaccine misinformation in the wellness community, and why they work (Washington Post)
Check out our website for more brand strategy thinking, and come connect with us on Twitter, Instagram and LinkedIn.
Cults make effective brands, and today, they’re all around us. We engage with them on some level every day, and cult experiences have come to define so much of who we are as a society that you have to ask, how did we get here?
Perhaps the most insidious way cults have influenced the world around us is in everyday language that’s meant to control behaviors and change perspectives. It’s language we use with friends and colleagues, language in our media and content, and language we hear coming from today’s most powerful CEOs, on branded websites and in keynote addresses.
In this episode we’re talking with Amanda Montell, a language scholar and author of the critically acclaimed book, ‘Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism’ to understand why cults have had a resurgence in branding and in real life.
You’d be surprised to know that some of the successful brands of our time were either founded by, owned by, or closely tied to cults. There’s a very good chance that some influencer you’re following has at least borrowed from cult culture or knowingly created a radicalized cult around themselves. There are the cults we joke about like SoulCycle or Supreme, but they use the same dynamics and tools as the cults we like to gasp at in documentaries.
Cults and businesses have always been intertwined, and understanding how they use the power of language to move people is the first step to decoding how they work.
Links to interesting things mentioned in this episode and further reading:
- Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism by Amanda Montell (Amazon)
- What LuLaRoe and Other MLMs Have In Common With Cults (Bustle)
- Elon Musk Is Not Just a Celebrity (The Atlantic)
- Five tactics used to spread vaccine misinformation in the wellness community, and why they work (Washington Post)
Check out our website for more brand strategy thinking, and come connect with us on Twitter, Instagram and LinkedIn.
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20: Ownership Anxiety, Brand Storytelling, and the Human Condition
Have you ever stopped to think about what ownership means to us as a culture? Many of us see it as an artifact of the legal system or something that’s decided in courts. We believe it is a self-evident concept that lives outside of us and isn’t really part of who we are, but rather a set of rules that affects our mortgages and our car payments.
But ownership is in fact very much a part of what makes us human.
Today and throughout history, a mere six competing stories of ownership have dictated how everything in the world is distributed. As resources have become scarcer, everyone from American homesteaders and ranchers, to tech leaders and consumer brands, have created ways to impose their own preferred ownership story in a world where what it means to “own” something is constantly evolving.
We speak with Michael Heller and James Salzman, two of the world’s leading scholars and authorities on ownership, and co-authors of the book Mine!: How The Hidden Rules of Ownership Control Our Lives to understand how the concept of ownership has been upending the brand landscape.
They explain to us how the rules of ownership change in every generation, and how those changes reveal the true brand frontier, the role of business, and most importantly, a society’s shifting values.
Links to interesting things mentioned in this episode and further reading:
- Mine!: How the Hidden Rules of Ownership Control Our Lives (Amazon)
- Drinking Water: A History (Amazon)
- The Hidden Rule of Ownership (Reason Magazine)
- Why you don't own the right to recline in your airplane seat (Salon)
- Why barbed wire — yes, barbed wire — was as transformative as the telephone (TED)
- Mine or Not Mine? An Interactive Quiz on the Ownership Secrets Everyone Should Know
- The New York Times Is Giving Up Its Cooking Community Facebook Group With Over 77,000 Members (Buzzfeed News)
Check out our website for more brand strategy thinking, and come connect with us on Twitter, Instagram and LinkedIn.
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22: Strong Ties vs. Weak Ties in the Next Era of Brand Innovation
What happens when the world suddenly reconfigures itself around a very different kind of relationship? The last 20 years of social innovation has leaned into weak ties: distant social relationships that allowed us to trust and extract value on platforms like Yelp, LinkedIn and Facebook. But the next 20 years are already shaping up to look very different.
Strong social ties, our close-knit relationships with frequent interactions, are starting to emerge as the dominant threads of the social fabric. In this new era of increased intimacy with our immediate network, what we value and what we create move in a markedly new direction. We co-buy homes with friends, form politically aligned living communities, go deep into conversational chambers and band together in vision-led DAOs.
The way we relate to one another is more profound, but also more narrow. What we demand of our network communities, and the brand landscape in general, becomes more high stakes.
In this house episode, we’re talking to Concept Bureau’s Chief Strategist Jean-Louis Rawlence, about the huge implications for tech innovation, community building and business. When strong ties become the future of community, community becomes the new brand.
Links to interesting things mentioned in this episode and further reading:
- Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid (The Atlantic)
- We Went to Anti-Vax Burning Man (VICE News)
- Friends are buying homes together. Here's why. (NBC News)
- The New Get-Rich-Faster Job in Silicon Valley: Crypto Start-Ups (New York Times)
- Community ≠ Marketing: Why We Need Go-to-Community, Not Just Go-to-Market (Future, a16z)
- Shareholder Democracy Is Getting Bigger Trial Runs (New York Times)
- The Community Garden: The Case for Leaving FAANG Companies for Crypto (Paradigm)
- Crypto millionaires are pouring money into Central America to build their own cities (MIT Technology Review)
- The Town That Went Feral (The New Republic)
- Meet Moxie, a Social Robot That Helps Kids With Social-Emotional Learning (IEEE Spectrum)
Check out our website for more brand strategy thinking, and come connect with us on Twitter, Instagram and LinkedIn.
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