
Parabola
07/13/20 • 52 min
Vera Undertow is an outdoor enthusiast who enjoys hiking 14,000 ft peaks in Colorado. They are also a person who has struggled with depression, suicidality, anxiety, and gender identity.
In the season premiere of Underneath it All, host Grizel and Vera talk about growing up where gender is assumed, the challenges that come with seeing a therapist, the negative stigma that has engulfed mental health issues, and how to move forward from different mental health crises.
Resources From This Episode:
- Follow Vera Undertow on Instagram: @veraundertow
- Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod
- Join the Underneath It All Facebook Group
- Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_
Additional Mental Health Resources:
- Looking for an online therapist? I have used betterhelp for 7 months now and it has helped me SO much. Use my discount code: GRIZEL for 10% off your first month.
- National Suicide Prevention Hotline: 1-800-273-8255
Enjoy this episode? Rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. It’ll help other people find us. You can also share this podcast with a friend. Thank you for your support!
Episodes air bi-weekly on Monday’s. Subscribe wherever you listen so you never miss an episode.
Underneath It All is produced and hosted by Grizel.
A production of Ravel Media.
Theme music is by Passiflora.
Additional Music was found by using Musicbed License.
Podcast cover artwork designed by Hailey Hirst.
Vera Undertow is an outdoor enthusiast who enjoys hiking 14,000 ft peaks in Colorado. They are also a person who has struggled with depression, suicidality, anxiety, and gender identity.
In the season premiere of Underneath it All, host Grizel and Vera talk about growing up where gender is assumed, the challenges that come with seeing a therapist, the negative stigma that has engulfed mental health issues, and how to move forward from different mental health crises.
Resources From This Episode:
- Follow Vera Undertow on Instagram: @veraundertow
- Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod
- Join the Underneath It All Facebook Group
- Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_
Additional Mental Health Resources:
- Looking for an online therapist? I have used betterhelp for 7 months now and it has helped me SO much. Use my discount code: GRIZEL for 10% off your first month.
- National Suicide Prevention Hotline: 1-800-273-8255
Enjoy this episode? Rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. It’ll help other people find us. You can also share this podcast with a friend. Thank you for your support!
Episodes air bi-weekly on Monday’s. Subscribe wherever you listen so you never miss an episode.
Underneath It All is produced and hosted by Grizel.
A production of Ravel Media.
Theme music is by Passiflora.
Additional Music was found by using Musicbed License.
Podcast cover artwork designed by Hailey Hirst.
Previous Episode

Welcome to Underneath it All
We often talk about these wild outdoor adventures we embark on, highlighting the highs, even the lows, but we forget to discuss how we got there in the first place.
Underneath it All, hosted by Grizel, dives deep into the stories of everyday people who have or are currently experiencing mental health difficulties and how the outdoors has influenced them. Because sometimes, what drove us to climb the highest peaks was experiencing the lowest valleys of our lives.
Through these stories, we hope you can have a better understanding of others around you, learn to accept and fully embrace your own narrative, and to continue breaking the negative stigma that has engulfed mental health.
Join the Underneath it All Community on Facebook
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Underneath it All airs bi-weekly on Mondays. Listen to the first episode on July 13!
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Assigning A Negative
Will Robinson, also known as Akuna is an outdoor lover and thru hiker who has hiked 3 of the longest trails in the US, which includes the Pacific Crest Trail, the Appalachian Trail, and the Continental Divide Trail, which makes him a Triple crowner of hiking.
In Episode 2, Akuna and Grizel discuss the effects of racism on Akuna’s mental health, living with PTSD, and how people with mental health challenges are often assigned a negative stereotype. They also discuss how racial injustice stems into everyday living, including his safest and happiest place-Nature.
Resources From This Episode:
- Follow Akuna on Instagram: @akunahikes
- Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod
- Join the Underneath It All Facebook Group
- Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_
Mental Health Resources for BIPOC:
- BLM: Mental Health Resources
- Black Virtual Therapy
- Therapy for Black Men
- Mental Health Resources for BIPOC
- Follow BIPOC Resources on Instagram:
- Looking for an online therapist? I have used Betterhelp for 7 months now and it has helped me SO much. Use my discount code: GRIZEL for 10% off your first month.
- National Suicide Prevention Hotline: 1-800-273-8255
Enjoy this episode? Rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. It’ll help other people find us. You can also share this podcast with a friend. Thank you for your support!
Episodes air bi-weekly on Monday’s. Subscribe wherever you listen so you never miss an episode.
Underneath It All is produced and hosted by Grizel.
A production of Ravel Media.
Theme music is by Passiflora.
Additional Music was found by using Musicbed License.
Podcast cover artwork designed by Hailey Hirst.
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