
The Chopping Block: What Does Binance’s Record $4.3 Billion Settlement Mean for Crypto? - Ep. 573
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11/23/23 • 62 min
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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, the gang breaks down the record $4.3 billion settlement between Binance and the U.S. government — whether it was fair, the chances CEO Changpeng Zhao will face any jail time, whether it was ultimately a good thing for Binance and for the U.S., and what this changes for the industry going forward. They also delve into the SEC’s lawsuit against Kraken, and the drama around Sam Altman’s firing from Open AI and what it says about corporate governance and crypto companies.
Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.
Show highlights:
- the details of the settlement between Binance and the Department of Justice
- how a core part of Binance’s business model was to allow bad actors on its platform, according to Robert
- why Binance had to settle with the U.S. government even though it's not an American company
- why Tom believes that the settlement represents a "very bad lesson"
- whether U.S. market makers should be liable in cases like these
- how the crypto community has reacted to the settlement
- what the settlement means for the future of the crypto industry
- whether the new SEC lawsuit against Kraken is just a “copy-and-paste” of its suit against Coinbase
- The drama around Sam Altman’s removal from his role as CEO of OpenAI
- Why Robert thinks that the OpenAI board was “silly and dumb”
- What the problems at OpenAI say about its innovative governance structure
Hosts
- Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly
- Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
- Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly
- Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures
Disclosures Links
Binance Settlement
- Unchained:
- Binance to Pay $4.3 Billion to Settle U.S. DOJ Criminal Probe; CEO Changpeng Zhao Pleads Guilty for Violating Bank Secrecy Act
- Binance CEO CZ Released on $175 Million Bond
SEC Charges Against Kraken
OpenAI
- The Verge: Sam Altman returns as CEO of OpenAI
- Unchained: Worldcoin Falls and Rises After Sam Altman-OpenAI Saga
Haseeb’s tweet on accelerationism
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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, the gang breaks down the record $4.3 billion settlement between Binance and the U.S. government — whether it was fair, the chances CEO Changpeng Zhao will face any jail time, whether it was ultimately a good thing for Binance and for the U.S., and what this changes for the industry going forward. They also delve into the SEC’s lawsuit against Kraken, and the drama around Sam Altman’s firing from Open AI and what it says about corporate governance and crypto companies.
Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.
Show highlights:
- the details of the settlement between Binance and the Department of Justice
- how a core part of Binance’s business model was to allow bad actors on its platform, according to Robert
- why Binance had to settle with the U.S. government even though it's not an American company
- why Tom believes that the settlement represents a "very bad lesson"
- whether U.S. market makers should be liable in cases like these
- how the crypto community has reacted to the settlement
- what the settlement means for the future of the crypto industry
- whether the new SEC lawsuit against Kraken is just a “copy-and-paste” of its suit against Coinbase
- The drama around Sam Altman’s removal from his role as CEO of OpenAI
- Why Robert thinks that the OpenAI board was “silly and dumb”
- What the problems at OpenAI say about its innovative governance structure
Hosts
- Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly
- Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
- Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly
- Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures
Disclosures Links
Binance Settlement
- Unchained:
- Binance to Pay $4.3 Billion to Settle U.S. DOJ Criminal Probe; CEO Changpeng Zhao Pleads Guilty for Violating Bank Secrecy Act
- Binance CEO CZ Released on $175 Million Bond
SEC Charges Against Kraken
OpenAI
- The Verge: Sam Altman returns as CEO of OpenAI
- Unchained: Worldcoin Falls and Rises After Sam Altman-OpenAI Saga
Haseeb’s tweet on accelerationism
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- why he believes spot Ethereum ETFs have great growth potential
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Guest:
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Sam Bankman-Fried Whisperer Tiffany Fong Spills Some Tea - Ep. 574
Tiffany Fong has had an unusual route to crypto fame. After losing most of her life savings in the Celsius bankruptcy, she began posting on YouTube about her experiences and eventually received some leaked documents, which she shared with The New York Times and on her channel. The leaks gave her some visibility, and that’s when Sam Bankman-Fried began following her on Twitter.
Fong unexpectedly managed to carve out a relationship with the one-time crypto mogul, and after he was arrested last November, she chatted often and even met with him while he was under house arrest. From there, she became known for posting details of her conversations with Bankman-Fried and documents he shared with her, and went on to attend every day of his trial in person and do videos on them.
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Show highlights:
- what Tiffany did before getting into crypto
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- how she got in touch with Sam Bankman-Fried and got him to speak with her after FTX’s collapse
- the conversations Tiffany had with SBF during his house arrest
- Tiffany's response to the rumors about a romantic relationship with SBF
- how Tiffany reacted to the DOJ reaching out to her for information before the SBF trial
- why she decided to go to the courtroom every day during the SBF trial
- Tiffany’s unpleasant encounter with SBF's mom, Barbara Fried
- how Tiffany feels about crypto, and why she doesn’t consider herself a "crypto influencer"
- what Tiffany’s career plans are now that the SBF trial is over
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Guest
- Tiffany Fong, Crypto content creator
Links
- Unchained:
- RollingStone: The Crypto Whistleblower at the Center of the Sam Bankman-Fried Storm
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