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Travel That Matters (named one of the 10 Best Podcasts of 2022 by Men’s Journal) explores the world’s most extraordinary travel experiences and destinations with award-winning editor, writer, and luxury travel expert Bruce Wallin. Bruce’s remarkable guests share inspiring, life-shaping stories about their adventures and cultural explorations, as well as travel tips and recommendations for the best destinations, hotels, restaurants, activities, and more. Their travel tales and insights cover everything from where to find delicious foods and ingredients and the most luxurious resorts and hotels, to the most fascinating modern cultural experiences and historical explorations.
The show’s special Master Chef episodes highlight the travels and tastes of the world’s top chefs, from culinary adventures through Africa with Marcus Samuelsson and exploring remote corners of Japan with Daniel Boulud, to discovering insider spots in Australia with Curtis Stone and relaxing and rejuvenating with Nina Compton on the beautiful island of Saint Lucia, with its stunning beaches and lush rainforests. You’ll even hear stories about great travelers like Anthony Bourdain and get souvenir recommendations, from traditional handicrafts to unique local delicacies.
Episodes of Travel That Matters span the globe, from Sicily, Italy, to Oaxaca, Mexico, to Tel-Aviv, Israel, and beyond. Listeners also learn about the greatest activities around the United States—award-winning wine tasting, the best new restaurants, epic hiking trails, secret skiing and surfing spots, and charming boutiques in places like Healdsburg and Napa Valley (California), Willamette Valley (Oregon), Jackson Hole (Wyoming), and New Orleans (Louisiana).
Listen to Travel That Matters every other Tuesday and gain insider knowledge to impactful adventures, extravagant hotels, top chefs, and secret hideaways, and discover the magic of travel at its very best.



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Travel That Matters is back! The first episode of the brand-new Master Chef series features Marcus Samuelsson, an award-winning chef, restaurateur, cookbook author, philanthropist and food activist.
Marcus shares with us what he eats at ballpark stadiums, where goes to buy his spices and sauces in LA, and the differences in food and culinary scenes across the continent of Africa. Marcus also shares why food lovers should consider Sweden as a top destination.
Marcus goes on to recount some wonderful stories from his experience in filming with Anthony Bourdain, as well as how filming No Passport Required (PBS) really exposed him to the bounty of food cultures across the U.S. (and what his favorite food cities are now.)
Finally, Marcus talks about the impact one of the country’s most cherished food writers, Jonathon Gold, had on the food scene in Los Angeles and beyond.
To learn more about Marcus's restaurants, recipes, and recordings, check out: https://marcussamuelsson.com/.
A special thanks to Stonestreet Estate Vineyards for sponsoring the show today. Don't forget, listeners of the Master Chef Series can receive exclusive access to Stonestreet wines and experiences including some unique sets chosen by Bruce, along with a complimentary Single Vineyard tasting for two at the estate. Head over to Stonestreetwines.com/Travel to access these incredible wines—and don’t forget to use code TRAVEL to book your complimentary tasting.
Thank you also to Accor and Fairmont Grand del Mar for sponsoring this episode of the Travel That Matters Master Chef series. To learn more about Fairmont Grand del Mar and its Michelin-three-star restaurant, Addison, visit fairmont.com.
This interview took place at the Rosewood Baha Mar resort in The Bahamas.
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04/25/23 • 33 min



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Including a long list of restaurants in New Orleans, Nina Compton (James Beard award winning Saint Lucian chef currently living in New Orleans and 2nd place winner of Top Chef) gives listeners of this "Travel That Matters" episode countless travel tips for culinary destinations, including Saint Lucia and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.
As Saint Lucia is her home country, she dives deep into tasty local spots most tourists don't know about, what her Saint Lucian family eats for Christmas, and how her journey to becoming a chef started in Saint Lucia. (Fun fact: Nina's dad was the first Prime Minister of independent Saint Lucia!)
Now she's been calling New Orleans home for over 8 years and gives us insider tips of where to eat and what types of food you can find in New Orleans, if you know what to look for. She also gives chef recommendations of what to order at her restaurant, Compere Lapin.
Of course, she also talks about her experience on Top Chef, and much more.
In the wrap, Bruce sits down with John Cox, preeminent contemporary Bahamian artist and executive director of arts and culture at Baha Mar.
John tells us about the Bahamas Culinary & Arts festival at Baha Mar this October and why the Bahamas (and all of the Caribbean) is an exciting place to be as an artist right now.
A special thanks to Stonestreet Estate Vineyards for sponsoring the show today. Don't forget, listeners of the Master Chef Series can receive exclusive access to Stonestreet wines and experiences including some unique sets chosen by Bruce, along with a complimentary Single Vineyard tasting for two at the estate. Head over to Stonestreetwines.com/Travel to access these incredible wines—and don’t forget to use code TRAVEL to book your complimentary tasting.
Thank you also to the Pullman Paris Tour Eiffel Hotel and the Frame Brasserie for sponsoring this episode of the Travel That Matters’ Master Chef series. To learn more about the Pullman Paris Tour Eiffel Hotel, visit pullmanparistoureiffel.com. Also, check out framebrasserie.com to book your Eiffel-tower-view table today.
Relevant Links: Bywater American bistro https://bywateramericanbistro.com/ Compere Lapin (New Orleans) http://comperelapin.com/ Addis Nola (Ethiopian New Orleans) https://www.addisnola.com/ Dakar (Senegalese New Orleans) https://www.addisnola.com/ Jewel of the South (Cocktails New Orleans) https://www.jewelnola.com/ Marjie’s Grill (New Orleans) https://www.marjiesgrill.com/ Fritai (Haitian New Orleans) https://fritai.com/ Fond Doux (Saint Lucian Resort) https://fonddouxresort.com/ Baha Mar Culinary Arts Festival https://bahamar.com/bahamas-culinary-arts-festival/ Alice Yard (Trinidad Art Collective) https://www.instagram.com/aliceyardinsta/ Fresh Milk (Barbados Art Collective) https://www.instagram.com/freshmilkbarbados/?hl=en
To learn more about Nina Compton or any of her projects, check out https://www.instagram.com/ninacompton/?hl=en
To learn more about John Cox, check out: https://www.instagram.com/iamjohnedwardcox/?hl=en
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07/25/23 • 35 min



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Extreme Superyacht Adventures with EYOS Expeditions CEO Ben Lyons
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11/02/21 • 29 min
Journeys to remote destinations like Antarctica, the Arctic, and Papua New Guinea are already ultimate adventures. Add a private superyacht to the equation, and those adventures soar to a whole new level. Such trips are the specialty of EYOS Expeditions, whose CEO, Ben Lyons, speaks to Bruce about these incredible journeys, his own personal adventures, and his passion for the extreme regions EOS explores.
The primary advantage to a yacht charter over, say, a standard cruise, is that you can explore these remote destinations on your own terms. No tour schedules or set meal times—it’s all up to you and, of course, the elements. From being able to stop and watch a pod of killer whales or spend an extra night surrounded by ice, itineraries are adaptable to the individual and the situation.
EYOS helps yacht owners prepare their boats for extreme conditions before leading them on these expeditions. The company also charters expedition-ready yachts for clients who do not have their own boat. In either scenario, most of the yachts are specially equipped to break through the ice, which is where Ben says, “the real magic happens.” The ice itself comes in sizes ranging from a baseball to 17 miles long, and in an array of colors. This natural beauty is what draws Ben back again and again, but wildlife encounters also drive the journeys.
Antarctica is full of wildlife, where you are almost certain to see penguins, whales, and other creatures. Ben, however, feels that the animal encounters in the Arctic are even more special, where a longer search might lead to a single—and singularly spectacular—sighting of a polar bear on a massive sheet of ice.
Ben also discusses how he and his colleagues are witnessing the effects of climate change in the polar regions first-hand. Most evident, he says, is the lengthening of the seasons in which you can travel to these regions, with trips to the Arctic now possible in May and to Antarctica in October. He concedes the severity of the situation—and that his trips contribute to the problem by having a large carbon footprint. However, he and his colleagues are passionate about preserving these environments—it is why they do what they do—and they strive to instill that passion in their clients. EYOS internally offsets carbon emissions and encourages clients to offset their own emissions. More importantly, EYOS has helped raise approximately $5 million for conservation efforts in the area’s the company explores.
It is essential, Ben concludes, to have an unforgettable experience in these remote destinations—and to preserve them for future generations.
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Hosted by: Bruce Wallin
Produced by: AJ Moseley and Darra Stone
Music by: Joey Salvia
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11/02/21 • 29 min


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2023: Master Chef Series - Season 3 Trailer
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04/11/23 • 1 min
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From planes to plates, this special podcast season of Travel That Matters with Bruce Wallin, award-winning travel editor, takes you on a culinary adventure around the globe. This brand-new Master Chef series features some of the best chefs and food personalities in the world and the global ventures that shaped them all. You’ll hear what it takes to create stunning hand-made pasta from the distinguished chef Daniel Boulud, get an inside look into the sights, smells, and tastes from around the world that inspired chefs Marcus Samuelsson and Gregory Gourdet, and learn about the best food cities in the United States, including where to find the best pizza (hint: it’s not in New York), from celebrity chef Amanda Freitag! You’ll also hear from Gail Simmons, Curtis Stone, Chris Jackson, Simon Hall Jr., and many more. The new Master Chef series from Travel That Matters showcases the “who’s who” of the culinary world and gives you a taste of how global travel makes food magical.
Episode 1 of Travel That Matters Season 3 will be released on April 25. Hit the follow button (+) wherever you get podcasts and don't miss new episodes every other Tuesday.
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Gail Simmons (Bravo’s Top Chef Judge): Kibbutz in Israel, Neighborhood Spot in Melbourne, Safaris in South Africa, Love of Japan
Travel That Matters
06/06/23 • 42 min
Gail Simmons has served as a permanent judge on Bravo’s Emmy-winning series Top Chef since the show’s inception in 2006. She is also a food journalist, cookbook author, mother of two, and avid global traveler.
In this episode, we hear some of Gail Simmon’s insights on judging Top Chef contestants and dishes, but she mainly talks about how travel has shaped her career and life. We learn about her time working on a kibbutz in Israel, and her firsthand knowledge of why the country has such a unique culinary scene and culture. She also talks about her love of Australia, why the country’s food scene is so exciting, and how she found the perfect neighborhood spot in Melbourne.
Gail also shares why she goes back to South Africa again and again, and how safaris have been such an influential experience throughout her life. As for her favorite food destination, Gail goes into her love of Japan and some of her great culinary adventures in the country. She also talks about how important traveling with her family has been—and will continue to be—for her.
In the wrap, Bruce sits down with acclaimed Israeli chef Uri Jeremias at his Efendi Hotel in the Old City of Akko. The man behind the famed restaurant Uri Buri, Uri shares his insights about what makes Israel such a special destination for food, history, and more.
To learn more about Gail Simmons or any of her projects, visit http://gailsimmons.com/.
To find out more about Uri Jeremias and his Efendi Hotel and Uri Buri restaurant in the Old City of Akko, visit https://efendi-hotel.co.il/?lang=en.
A special thanks to Stonestreet Estate Vineyards for sponsoring the show today. Don't forget, listeners of the Master Chef series receive exclusive access to Stonestreet wines, including some unique sets chosen by Bruce, along with a complimentary Single Vineyard tasting for two at the estate. Head over to www.Stonestreetwines.com/Travel to access these incredible deals—and don’t forget to use code TRAVEL to book your complimentary tasting.
Thank you also to Accor and Raffles Doha for sponsoring this episode of the Travel That Matters’ Master Chef series. To learn more about the Raffles Doha or its new ALBA restaurant from chef Enrico Crippa, visit https://www.raffles.com/doha/dining/alba-by-enrico-crippa/.
Kann (Portland) https://kannrestaurant.com/
ARU (Melbourne) Thai https://aru.net.au/
Cumulus (Melbourne) https://www.cumulusinc.com.au/
Kruger National Park https://www.krugerpark.co.za/
Six Senses Shaharut https://www.sixsenses.com/en/resorts/shaharut
Travel That Matters is a CurtCo Media Production.
Host: Bruce Wallin
Producer: AJ Moseley
Marketing: Catrin Skaperdas
Music: Joey Salvia
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06/06/23 • 42 min

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Gregory Gourdet is an American chef, writer, restaurateur, and former finalist on the twelfth and seventeenth seasons of Top Chef. His first restaurant Kann was named America’s best new restaurant at the 2023 James Beard awards.
Gregory shares his experience on Top Chef and how it inspired him to travel around the world. We also get a sneak peek of his work guiding global travel experiences with Modern Adventure. We learn about what part of the world Gregory is most passionate about right now. We hear what trendy country in South America is unlike any other place on earth in terms of unique ingredients and flavor. Gregory shares one of his favorite travel experiences up in the mountains of Oaxaca, Mexico. He also shares his thoughts on why his restaurant Kann has been so well received. We learn about Haiti and why Gregory thinks it’s poised to become a hot travel destination again. We find out what his “last meal” would be if he had to pick only one! Gregory shares his favorite nonfood-related trip, and why it’s such an ultra experience. Finally, we hear what and where Gregory’s best meals of the year have been.
In the wrap, Bruce welcomes chef Wayne Brown to the show. Wayne heads up operations of Carte Blanched – Ennismore’s in-house F&B development and concepting studio. We learn what goes into the concept development with Carte Blanched projects. Wayne also shares how Carte Blanched tailors each concept to its unique region and culture. We get a sneak peek into an exciting upcoming mixology project opening in Barcelona. We hear more about the new Mondrian Singapore Duxton food concepts coming to life, and how “the greatest butcher in the world” Dario Cecchini is building their new restaurant Bottega Di Carna. Finally, Wayne shares some interesting stories about his travels to Asia, and how those trips led him to who he is today.
To learn more about Gregory Gourdet or any of his projects, visit https://gregorygourdet.com/
To find out more about Wayne Brown and Carte Blanched, visit https://carte-blanched.com/
A special thanks to Stonestreet Estate Vineyards for sponsoring the show today. Don't forget, listeners of the Master Chef Series can receive exclusive access to Stonestreet wines and experiences including some unique sets chosen by Bruce, along with a complimentary Single Vineyard tasting for two at the estate. Head over to Stonestreetwines.com/Travel to access these incredible wines—and don’t forget to use code TRAVEL to book your complimentary tasting.
Thank you also to Accor and the Mondrian Singapore Duxton for sponsoring this episode of the Travel That Matters’ Master Chef series. To learn more about the Mondrian Singapore Duxton and their Bottega Di Carna restaurant visit https://book.ennismore.com/hotels/mondrian/singapore-duxton/dining
Links and mentions:
- Modern Adventure: https://modernadventure.com/
- La Picanteria (Peru): https://picanteriasdelperu.com/
- Kann (Portland): https://kannrestaurant.com/
- Sousol (Portland): https://sousolbar.com/
- Tatiana (NYC): https://www.tatiananyc.com/
- Skybar Condesa (Mexico City) https://book.ennismore.com/nightlife/skybar/condesa
- Cleo Mediterraneo: https://book.ennismore.com/restaurants/cleo
- Mondrian Singapore Duxton: https://book.ennismore.com/hotels/mondrian/singapore-duxton
- Hyde Hotel, Niko (Ibiza): https://book.ennismore.com/hotels/hyde/ibiza/dining
- Bottega Di Carna (Singapore): https://book.ennismore.com/hotels/mondrian/singapore-duxton/dining
Travel That Matters is a CurtCo Media Production.
Host: Bruce Wallin
Producer: AJ Moseley
Marketing: Catrin Skaperdas
Music: Joey Salvia
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06/20/23 • 37 min

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Hawaii, Burgundy, Australia, and California are just some of the places internationally known chef, TV host, entrepreneur, New York Times best-selling author and chef-owner Curtis Stone talks about on this episode of "Travel That Matters" with award-winning travel writer and editor Bruce Wallin.
Curtis shares insider tips on all the amazing, unknown places in Australia he’s been to and what's special about the Australian cuisine and the traditions that accompany it. Curtis goes into detail about the foods and ingredients you need to eat when you’re in Australia and where to find them, because you won’t find them anywhere else.
Everyone knows Italy has delicious food, but Curtis shares tips on where to find new culinary experiences beyond the hot spots like Rome, Florence, and Sicily. In fact, he provides an actionable step you can take to find authentic food in all of the countries you’re visiting and shares advice on how to plan your next vacation.
Curtis also tells listeners about his latest projects and the new spots where you can find his delicious cooking.
In the wrap, Bruce sits down with acclaimed Michelin starred Chef George Mendes. Chef Mendes joins Raffles Boston, opening later this summer, as chef to open the signature restaurant Amar and lead the culinary program, which also includes a sleek day to night bar and terrace, and a street side cafe. He was previously the executive chef at the New York Michelin-starred restaurant Aldea.
To learn more about Raffles Boston and the culinary program, visit https://www.raffles.com/boston
To learn more about Curtis Stone or any of his projects, visit https://www.curtisstone.com/
To find out more about George Mendes. visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-mendes-31b3281bb/
A special thanks to Stonestreet Estate Vineyards for sponsoring the show today. Don't forget, listeners of "Travel That Matters" can receive exclusive access to Stonestreet wines and experiences including some unique sets chosen by Bruce, along with a complimentary Single Vineyard tasting for two at the estate. Head over to Stonestreetwines.com/Travel to access these incredible wines—and don’t forget to use code TRAVEL to book your complimentary tasting.
Thank you also to Accor and Girafe restaurant by Paris Society for sponsoring this episode of Travel That Matters. To learn more about Girafe, visit https://girafe-restaurant.com/
Links and mentions:
- Maude: https://www.mauderestaurant.com/
- Gwen: https://www.gwenla.com/
- Marques de Riscal: https://www.marquesderiscal.com/en/marques-de-riscal-reserva
- Belmond Hotel, Maroma: https://www.belmond.com/hotels/north-america/mexico/riviera-maya/belmond-maroma-resort-and-spa/
- Indian Star: https://www.indianstar.com.au/
- Topanga Social: https://www.eatplaytopangasocial.com/
- Amar, Raffles Boston (Opening Summer 2023): https://www.raffles.com/boston/dining/amar/
- Long-Bar, Raffles Boston: https://www.raffles.com/boston/dining/long-bar-and-terrace/
- Girafe: https://paris-society.com/en/table/girafe/
Travel That Matters is a CurtCo Media Production:
- Host: Bruce Wallin
- Producer: AJ Moseley
- Marketing Director: Catrin Skaperdas
- Music: Joey Salvia
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07/11/23 • 34 min

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Epic Family Travel from Mauritius to Japan with One&Only's Philippe Zuber
Travel That Matters
07/19/22 • 38 min
Philippe starts by sharing his favorite family destination, the little-known Rodrigues Island in the Indian Ocean. Part of Mauritius, Rodrigues is a rare find in today’s world, a place that has truly preserved its historic culture, beautiful land- and seascapes, and laid-back island lifestyle.
Next, Philippe talks about a decision he and his wife made when their two sons were young. They created a family policy by which each of the boys could choose a vacation destination anywhere in the world when they turned 10 and 20. The boys have both researched and selected their destinations in great detail, leading their parents so far on adventures through Vietnam, California, and Rwanda. Philippe believes that empowering his children in this way has led to greater engagement for them as well as better travel experiences for him and his wife.
One common theme to Philippe’s family trips is food. He believes the power of food is transcendental to cultures and that his children’s education has benefitted from the many different flavors they’ve tasted around the world. The country that has stood out the most in terms of food is Japan, which, for many reasons, Philippe believes is one of the best destinations for families with teenagers.
Regarding the age of children and how that informs travel decisions, Philippe sees the experience as a progression with stepping stones along the way. Younger kids especially need downtime, and there is a ceiling to the number of cultural experiences they can enjoy and absorb. For older children, Philippe suggests allowing them to pick the itinerary for an entire day during your trips. The Zuber's frequently do this on vacations, where each member of the family is responsible for one day’s planning, budgeting, and scheduling. He says it has led to a bit of friendly competition and a host of new experiences that would never have come to fruition otherwise. It also allowed the family members who weren’t in charge of the day’s itinerary to truly relax during their off days.
Philippe also dives into his family’s life-changing experience in Rwanda, where One&Only operates two resorts, Gorilla’s Nest and Nyungwe House. He then gives us the inside scoop on some of the company’s other new resorts, from the spectacular Mandarina in Mexico—where Bruce interviewed him in person—to properties in Montenegro, Athens, Greece’s Kéa Island, and Big Sky, Montana.
Links: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/
Bruce's email: [email protected]
Bruce's IG: @Brucewallintravel
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Hosted by: Bruce Wallin
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07/19/22 • 38 min

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There's Way More To Mexico Than You Think, with Journey Mexico Founder Zachary Rabinor
Travel That Matters
06/07/22 • 45 min
We might as well call this “The Big Book of Mexico” episode, because it’s filled with a lifetime of adventures, insider spots, and authentic luxury hotels throughout the country. Our guest is Zachary Rabinor, the founder and president of Journey Mexico, a unique luxury travel company that takes clients far beyond the country’s well-known beach destinations. Not that he doesn’t appreciate Mexico’s great beach resorts—he’s been living in Puerto Vallarta for almost 20 years, and he joins Bruce in person from the town they both call home for this special episode. Zachary is the perfect person to lead us on a whirlwind tour of Mexico’s cultural, natural, and culinary riches, from Campeche and Chiapas in the south to the Copper Canyon and Baja wine country in the north. If you love Mexico like we do—or even if you’re just slightly curious about the country—this episode is a must listen!
Learn More: Journey Mexico
HACIENDAS:
Hacienda De San Antonio: https://haciendadesanantonio.com/
Hacienda San Gabriel De Las Palmas https://www.haciendasangabriel.com/en/
Casa De La Real Aduana http://www.realaduana.com/
COSTALEGRE
Four Seasons Tamarindo https://www.fourseasons.com/tamarindo/
XALA https://www.luxury-frontiers.com/project/xala/
COPPER CANYON
Copper Canyon Train: https://chepe.mx/en/
CAMPECHE
Calakmul Biosphere Reserve Jaguar Observation https://www.calakmul.org/html/learn.html
PUEBLA
Banyan Tree https://www.banyantree.com/mexico/puebla
Cartesiano https://cartesiano360.com/en/
La Purificadora https://www.lapurificadora.com/
Wallin Wrap-Up
I’m just going to assume that hearing from Zach got you very excited to visit Mexico. And now that you’re coming down here to visit, you’re going to need a few ideas about where to stay, so I thought I’d share some of my personal favorite hotels and resorts around the country.
Now, Mexico really does have some of the best hotels in the world, and one that I’d say has kind of been the standard bearer over the years is Las Ventanas in Los Cabos.
There are so many great beach resorts in Cabo—you’ve got One & Only Palmilla, Esperanza, Zadun, Pedregal—and you really can’t go wrong at any of them. But I’ve visited Las Ventanas a few times over the years, and I’m just always blown away by how good it is—the feel, the ambience, the service is spectacular.
Another Rosewood resort that is right up there with anything is Rosewood Mayakoba on the Riviera Maya. We’ve talked about this place before on the show, and it’s this very peaceful sanctuary in the mangroves and along this great stretch of beach. The food is really a standout here.
Other spots I love on the Riviera Maya—the Hotel Escencia and the Belmond Maroma. Both on incredible beaches—like that soft white-sand beach Caribbean dream beach. Escencia is a very chic designer type place, while the Belmond is a little more classic Mexican in style. That one is closed for the next couple years for renovations, and I’m curious to see how that turns out.
Closer to where I’ve been based here in Puerto Vallarta, Zach briefly mentioned Las Alamandas, which is a truly magical place. It’s on the Costalegre, south of Vallarta, and like Zach said, this area just hasn’t been developed like other coastal regions, so you have these huge pieces of land with only one small resort or a few homes. Alamandas is on 2,000 acres, it’s got four private beaches, and there are less than 20 suites. Definitely one of my favorite hideaways.
Another one that came up in our conversation is Hacienda de San Antonio. This place is a working hacienda in the foothills of the Colima Volcano. Honestly, I don’t even know how to describe it. You just have to go check out their website, look at how incredible the photos and videos are, and then trust me that it really is that incredible. Unlike anywhere else I’ve ever been.
Another hacienda property I love is Hacienda de los Santos in northern Mexico. Not a place that’s very easy to get to, but it’s in a great town cal...
06/07/22 • 45 min

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Go Here, Not There with New York Times Columnist and Alternative-Destination Expert Elaine Glusac
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06/28/22 • 38 min
New York Times travel columnist Elaine Glusac is an expert at something that has become increasingly essential for travelers: finding the best alternatives to the world’s most popular destinations. She joins Bruce to dive into the top spots for experiencing everything we love about over-touristed spots—minus the crowds.
Elaine starts by giving us a behind-the-scenes look into the New York Times’ “52 Places” article, an annual feature that explores the newspaper’s picks for the year’s most compelling destinations. One spot Elaine has suggested several times for the list—the Great Lakes region—has never made the cut. The Chicago native tells us why she thinks the world’s largest freshwater system is so deserving, and why it’s
such an interesting and important destination for travelers to consider right now.
A couple of Elaine’s other recent stories for the Times cover the concept of alternative destinations, including “Driving Iceland’s Overlooked North,” in which she recounts her family’s adventure in the country’s rarely visited Diamond Circle—a region that offers at least as much natural wonder and drama as the bustling Golden Circle. Her “Go Here, Not There” article—the inspiration for this episode of Travel That Matters—offers up a number of other great options for those looking for all the thrills without all the people. Starting with Europe, Elaine suggests Montenegro instead of Venice or Dubrovnik. The small country south of Croatia has incredible shorelines, well-preserved ancient cities, and the deepest rafting canyon in Europe, among other attractions. She also thinks travelers should consider Brittany the next time they visit France, for a more locals’ perspective on the country.
Moving beyond Europe, Elaine shares her favorite spots for winter sports in Canada, including a network of ice-skating trails in the flooded forests of Quebec. She also discusses Panama (instead of Costa Rica) and its Chagres National Park; Dunedin, New Zealand, where the wildlife resembles that of the Galapagos; and much more. Throughout it all, her inspiring insights and tales are sure to make you think differently about travel—and start seeking out more alternative destinations.
Links & Notes:
- Diamond Circle
- Go Here, Not There
- Where Trails Are for Skating, Not Hiking
- Elaine Glusac on Instagram
- Amsterdam-Noord (The hip neighborhood AJ was referring to)
- Travel That Matters recommended boutique hotel in Barcelona: https://www.casabonay.com/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=organic
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Learn more about the podcast: https://www.curtco.com/travelthatmatters
Hosted by: Bruce Wallin
Produced by: AJ Moseley
Music by: Joey Salvia
A CurtCo Media Production
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06/28/22 • 38 min

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How many episodes does Travel That Matters have?
Travel That Matters currently has 43 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Places & Travel, Society & Culture, Podcasts, Arts and Food.
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The episode title 'Marcus Samuelsson (Winner of Chopped and Iron Chef): Diverse Flavors of Africa, Top Culinary Destinations (Sweden), Insider Spots Across the U.S. (Los Angeles), Anthony Bourdain Memories' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on Travel That Matters is 33 minutes.
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Episodes of Travel That Matters are typically released every 14 days.
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The first episode of Travel That Matters was released on Jun 8, 2021.
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Apr 27
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