
Kathy Elkind - 57, walking the 1,400 mile/2,286km Grande Randonnée Cinq (GR5) with her husband of 27 years
09/23/21 • 38 min
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- Who is Kathy and what she does
- Wanting to go on a big adventure
- Finding the right time to go travelling
- Wanting to take a pause in life
- Being married for 27 years
- Stepping into the next phase of her life
- Being exposed to the outdoors from an early age
- Never having the guts or the time to do a big thru hike
- Struggling with overeating
- Having trouble with reading and struggling in school
- Using food to numb emotions and to calm her nerves
- Struggling with shame and food
- Becoming a teacher and raising her kids
- Becoming an eating psychology coach
- Paying attention to the emotions underneath and learning to be with them
- Studying self compassion
- Being mindful
- Placing your hand on your heart and chaining your voice
- The power of speaking to yourself and being gentle to yourself
- Learning how to be compassionate to yourself
- The GR5 Trail
- Making the decision to go on the hike
- Going through menopause
- Moving from running to walking
- Planning and preparation before the trip
- Making the adventure your own
- Deciding to bike the 1st week in the Netherland
- Starting the GR5 at the end of April, beginning of May
- Doing a preamble in Italy for a few weeks before
- Wanting to slow down
- Listening to her body and using her intuition
- Learning how to sleep in a different bed every night
- Being concerned about hiking in the Alps and dealing with the elevation
- Staying mindful and being in the present
- Connecting the rhythm of your breath to your walking pace
- The magical moment and the beauty of the walks
- The lessons learned from walking the GR5
- Ready to do some backpacking and camping
- Feeling strong and powerful
- Writing a book about her experience
- The impact of the walk on her marriage
- Knowing each others strengths and weaknesses
- Daily Routine on the walk
- Top tips for taking on the GR5
- Adjusting back to normal life in America
- Final words of advice for other women who want to go on an adventure
- Why it’s never too late
- The power of brainstorming
- Who is Kathy and what she does
- Wanting to go on a big adventure
- Finding the right time to go travelling
- Wanting to take a pause in life
- Being married for 27 years
- Stepping into the next phase of her life
- Being exposed to the outdoors from an early age
- Never having the guts or the time to do a big thru hike
- Struggling with overeating
- Having trouble with reading and struggling in school
- Using food to numb emotions and to calm her nerves
- Struggling with shame and food
- Becoming a teacher and raising her kids
- Becoming an eating psychology coach
- Paying attention to the emotions underneath and learning to be with them
- Studying self compassion
- Being mindful
- Placing your hand on your heart and chaining your voice
- The power of speaking to yourself and being gentle to yourself
- Learning how to be compassionate to yourself
- The GR5 Trail
- Making the decision to go on the hike
- Going through menopause
- Moving from running to walking
- Planning and preparation before the trip
- Making the adventure your own
- Deciding to bike the 1st week in the Netherland
- Starting the GR5 at the end of April, beginning of May
- Doing a preamble in Italy for a few weeks before
- Wanting to slow down
- Listening to her body and using her intuition
- Learning how to sleep in a different bed every night
- Being concerned about hiking in the Alps and dealing with the elevation
- Staying mindful and being in the present
- Connecting the rhythm of your breath to your walking pace
- The magical moment and the beauty of the walks
- The lessons learned from walking the GR5
- Ready to do some backpacking and camping
- Feeling strong and powerful
- Writing a book about her experience
- The impact of the walk on her marriage
- Knowing each others strengths and weaknesses
- Daily Routine on the walk
- Top tips for taking on the GR5
- Adjusting back to normal life in America
- Final words of advice for other women who want to go on an adventure
- Why it’s never too late
- The power of brainstorming
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Houda Loukili - Former Dutch National Kickboxing Champion, and Youth Coach for Personal Growth
Houda grew up in the Netherlands and she first came into contact with kickboxing at the age of 11. She soon found out that kickboxing was her passion, Houda trained hard and spend all her time in the gym, training 6 days a week. Due to her passion and perseverance, in 2005, Houda became the Dutch Youth Champion. At university Houda choose to study Sports Management and Movement. Houda was inspired as a young girl by her coach – and she wanted to be the inspiration for other young children. With her knowledge and experience in top-class sports and her social-pedagogical background, Houda knows how to reach girls and get them moving – literally. By sharing her story, Houda makes young people feel relevant and that they are capable of more than they think. Her mission is to give coaches the tools to make sports more accessible for girls. She believes it is important that every individual can play sports according to their own needs. Houda is passionate about equality and diversity in sports and has worked with Nike on their “made to play campaign”. Nike's words are clear: children should play. Not just some kids, but all kids. Not just some girls, but all girls, including girls who wear hijab. New episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast go live every Tuesday and Thursday at 7am UK time - Make sure you hit the subscribe button so you don’t miss out. The Tough Girl Podcast is sponsorship and ad free thanks to the monthly financial support of patrons. To find out more about supporting your favourite podcast and becoming a patron please check out www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast. Show notes
- Who is Houda
- Why sport is her life
- Coming from a sporty family
- Being inspired by Bruce Lee at 8 years old
- Getting into kickboxing at 11
- Falling in love with kickboxing
- Her journey in kickboxing
- Training for her first match
- Becoming the Dutch Youth Champion
- Becoming more confident
- Wanting to prove a girl could fight
- Starting to wear the hijab at 14
- Going to study sports at college
- Being the only girls wearing the hijab
- “It was not easy, but I had the power to do it”
- Wanting to keep going with the kickboxing
- Being in a car accident at 21
- Spending a lot of time in recovery
- Dealing with the first big disappointment in her life
- Having nothing else apart from sports
- Trying to figure out what to do next
- Working with young girls but wanting to inspire the whole family
- Wanting to make a big impact in the world
- Having her own personal development program
- Working towards lots of goals
- Wanting to change the representation of girls and women in the media
- Being a teacher of resilience
- Giving the children tools to help build resilience
- The power of being positive
- Wanting children to believe in themselves
- Teaching children how to say no
- Why you attitude is very important
- The power of having a growth mindset
- How to deal with negative thoughts
- Planting seeds in young minds
- Having people believe in you
- The pressure on girls to look/act a certain way
- Needing the help and support from others
- Wanting to educate other coaches
- Being inspired by her mum
- Being 1 of 6 children
- How her parents support her dream
- Working with Nike - Made to Play Campaign
- Creating a play book for coaches to use to help them work with girls who wear a hijab
- Starting a Youtube Channel
- The importance of smiling and having fun
- “Your start says nothing about your finish”
- "If you have a dream and you want to achieve your dream, then you need to work for it and believe in it”
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Verna Volker - From the Navajo Nation, Non-runner to Ultra Runner in 12 years. Founder of Native Women Running and Hoka Global Ambassador.
Verna is the founder of Native Women Running, a Hoka Global Ambassador, she serves on the Running Diversity Board, and represents several organizations: Red Earth Running Co, UltraRunning Magazine, and Native Women's Wilderness. Verna in her own words: “My name is Verna Volker and I am from the Navajo Nation. My clans are Tódích'íi'nii (Bitterwater) nishlíi, Hashtl'ishnii (Mud People) bashishchiin, Ta'neeszahnii (Tangle) dashicheii, and Tó' áheedlíinii (Water Flows Together) dashinalí. I grew up in the Dzilnaoodilii area of New Mexico, but currently live in Minneapolis, Minnesota with my husband and four children. I work as a second grade teacher. In 2009, I started my running journey to lose weight, but it has turned into a quest to find out who I am internally. This journey has taken me from a newbie runner to a marathoner and recently to an ultra-marathoner when I finished my first Ultra 50-mile race. My desire is to use my running to inspire others.” New episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast go live every Tuesday and Thursday at 7am UK time - Subscribe so you don’t miss out. The Tough Girl Podcast is sponsorship and ad free thanks to the monthly financial support of patrons. To find out more about supporting your favourite podcast and becoming a patron please check out www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast. Show notes
- Introducing herself in Navajo
- Who is Verna
- How the outdoors played apart of her life growing up
- Loving sports but not being into running
- Why Verna got into running
- Signing up for her first Half Marathon in August 2009
- Struggling with her weight
- Falling in love with running
- How her running journey progressed
- Putting herself first and not feeling guilty
- Having a 4th child
- Becoming an early morning runner
- Waking up at 4.15am.... to go running
- Having female role models at the start of her running journey
- Native Women Running - Founded on Jan 23rd 2018
- The lack of visibility for Native women runners
- Not seeing women who looked like her
- Using the power of instagram to create change
- How Native Women Running has evolved over the past 3 years
- Inter-generational trauma and the power of running to heal
- Creating a call to action - MMIW (Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women)
- May 5th - National Day of Awareness for MMIW
- Using running to heal trauma
- The murder of native children and finding the reminds of native children in residential schools
- Connecting with a running community
- Coping with the trauma
- Being resilient and being in a leadership position
- Why it’s ok to detach yourself from social media
- Magical moments while running
- Deciding to run her first ultra marathon 50k in 2018
- Running a 50 miler in October 2019
- Why the ultra journey has been mental
- Seeing her little girl at the finish line
- Training and planning for ultra runs
- Meeting her coach via Instagram
- What a typical training week looks like
- Keeping motivated to go running when not in the right frame of mind
- Training for her next 100K (62 miles) race
- Mental tips and tricks for running an ultra
- Dedicating miles to lost love ones
- Teaching 2nd grade and how working for Hoka is becoming a full time job
- Advice for women who want to get into running
- The power of being patient with yourself
- Taking the next step to running an ultra
- What hozho means
- Final words of advice from Verna
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