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Things Musicians Don't Talk About

Things Musicians Don't Talk About

Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

Hattie Butterworth and Rebecca Toal host a podcast of insight and change in the classical music and arts professions. Delving into the often stigmatised worlds of mental health, injury, discrimination and productivity, classical music issues are spoken and revived. Join Hattie, Rebecca and guests for important conversations, inspiring moments of wisdom and poignant vulnerability.

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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - 82. Linton Stephens on living authentically with a public platform
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11/22/24 • 69 min

We asked Linton Stephens to come and speak about authenticity for our first live show at the Royal Society of Musicians. A musician and broadcaster who has been naturally unapologetic about his identity in all corners of his career, living authentically is just part of Linton's everyday. But classical music's fragility means that this type of openness can be hard to find. We discuss Linton's early life, campaigning for women's music, the power of mentioning his boyfriend on the radio, the importance of representation and his views on tokenism. We also open questions up to the audience who come forward with some fantastic questions for Linton.


Thank you to RSM for their ongoing support and stay tuned for details of our next live talk.


Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow RSM on Instagram, X and Facebook.

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Support TMDTA

Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta

Feeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about

Find TMDTA on all the socials at @tmdtapodcast

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Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

Editor & music: Katy Ehrlich



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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - 71. Chloé van Soeterstède: conducting through pregnancy & motherhood
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04/05/24 • 48 min

In this episode of Things Musicians Don't Talk About, Becca sits down with Chloé van Soeterstède in her dressing room at the Royal College of Music. Chloé shares her personal experiences of working as a musician alongside pregnancy and then motherhood. She walks us through her journey - from figuring out with her manager when might be the best time to get pregnant, to performing while visibly pregnant and giving birth naturally with the aid of mental preparation. Chloé also opens up about challenges like pumping breastmilk between rehearsals on tour and traveling internationally with a newborn, and making sure to be honest about her capacities through such a huge life transformation. Becca and Chloé emphasise how rare and important it is for musicians to discuss the realities of pregnancy and parenthood, and Chloé’s honest and candid story provides a much-needed glimpse into navigating this challenging but rewarding career stage.


Follow Chloé on Instagram and witness more of her brilliant honesty!

Check out her website and on X

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We always love to hear from our listeners, and if you like the show why not recommend to a friend or leave a review?

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Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.

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Support TMDTA

Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta

Feeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about

Find TMDTA on all the socials at @tmdtapodcast

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Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

Editor: Katy Ehrlich

Music: Katy Ehrlich



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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - 69. Zygmund de Somogyi: burnout, belonging, and community in composition
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03/04/24 • 49 min

This week we come to you (unintentionally) from the Royal Opera House! We speak with composer, theatre-maker, and journalist Zygmund de Somogyi about growing up with Autism Spectrum Disorder, not fitting in to the classical music world, discovering the world of composing, their experiences of imposter syndrome and feeling disconnected from the world around them. Zyggy is now studying opera composition and discusses how they fell into opera and what it's like to work as an opera composer in the current climate. Thank you to Zyggy for their brilliant honesty and commitment to talk about the things musicians don't talk about.


Follow Zyggy on:

Website

Email (enquires)

Email (press)

Instagram

X

Youtube

Soundcloud


Join us on Things Musicians Don't Talk About for more honest chats about life as musicians. We always love to hear from our listeners, and if you like the show why not recommend to a friend or leave a review?


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Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.

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Support TMDTA

Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta

Feeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about

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Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

Editor: Patrick Emeribe

Music: Katy Ehrlich



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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - 67. James Partridge: childhood nostalgia

67. James Partridge: childhood nostalgia

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01/02/24 • 57 min

A very Happy New Year from us at TMDTA! To kick off 2024, we have an episode recorded waaaaay back last year with the joyous James Partridge. We speak to him about his very unique career, bringing 'primary school bangers' to the masses and what life is like as a social media sensation. Why do these primary school hymns unlock 100% FEELS in us and what does James think about music education? Find out here on Things Musicians Don't Talk About.


Follow James on:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamesbpartridge/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jamesbpartridge

Website: https://www.jamesbpartridge.com/

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Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.

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Support TMDTA

Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta

Feeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about

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Editor: Rebecca Toal

Music: Katy Ehrlich



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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - *Patreon Preview* Spooky Scary Feedback

*Patreon Preview* Spooky Scary Feedback

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10/02/23 • 6 min

It's our first sneaky peaky Patreon preview! Welcome through this little creaky door in the paywall to hear 5 minutes of exclusive content that we recorded last Halloween!


In this episode, Hattie, Katy and Becca scare the living daylights outta themselves by reading feedback ranging from grade 8 to graduate scheme rejections. We also have a little rant about assessing music as a subjective art form, and Hattie shares a story with us that we had to bleep out because it was too gross.


If you fancy accessing the *whole* episode and much more, head to https://www.patreon.com/tmdta!


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Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!


The Royal Society of Musicians is Britain’s oldest music charity and our aims remain as relevant today as they were in the earliest years – to provide vital financial assistance, advice and guidance to those professionally active in the world of music but who are unable to work due to accident, illness, stress or anxiety. Being a charity run by musicians for musicians, we are uniquely placed to fully understand the challenges faced within the profession.


Follow the Royal Society of Musicians on:

Instagram: @rsmgb

Twitter: @RSMusicians

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusicians

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Support TMDTA

Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta

Got a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkabout

Feeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about

Follow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcast


Editor: Katy Ehrlich & Rebecca Toal

Music: Katy Ehrlich



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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - 60. Paul Denegri: multi-faceted by accident

60. Paul Denegri: multi-faceted by accident

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07/11/23 • 58 min

Becca catches up with her former teacher, Paul Denegri, from his stay in an old farmhouse. The humblest of the humble, Paul takes us through his journey to where he is now: revisiting his unexpected appointment as Head of Brass at Wells Cathedral School; his feelings of imposter syndrome and disillusionment with the freelance musician lifestyle; and staying true to his identity. Paul's trademark openness and warmth is so refreshing in the world of classical music and music education, where prestige and resilience is so often touted as the pinnacle of success.


Thank you Paul for being the reason a lot of us from Wells fostered our passion for music and have ended up where we are now.


Paul's website: paul denegri

Paul on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pauldenegripandonltd/

Paul's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pauldenegri/


Click here for transcript

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Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now generously supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!


The Royal Society of Musicians is Britain’s oldest music charity and our aims remain as relevant today as they were in the earliest years – to provide vital financial assistance, advice and guidance to those professionally active in the world of music but who are unable to work due to accident, illness, stress or anxiety. Being a charity run by musicians for musicians, we are uniquely placed to fully understand the challenges faced within the profession.


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Support TMDTA

Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta

Got a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkabout

Feeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about

Follow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcast

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Follow the Royal Society of Musicians on:

Instagram: @rsmgb

Twitter: @RSMusicians

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusicians


Editor: Rebecca Toal

Music: Katy Ehrlich



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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - 57. a May Q&A: behind the scenes of the podcast

57. a May Q&A: behind the scenes of the podcast

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05/18/23 • 34 min

WE PASSED OUR VOICES RADIO TRIAL! Here's our most recent episode-show where we answer beautiful questions from our Insta followers (thanks you guys!). We chit-chat about our favourite and least favourite memories of TMDTA, Father Christmas and Wendy Christmas, a slightly different origin story of the podcast, the power of sharing our stories on social media, balancing pod commitments, Becca's wet cat and not treating the pod as a job. Thanks again to Voices Radio for giving us another platform to continue breaking down the barriers and talking about the things musicians don't talk about.


If you've been affected by any of the issues mentioned in this episode, head to our Resources page for further signposting and support.


Support us


Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta


Got a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkabout


Feeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about


Follow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcast


Editor: Abbeydot - Audio Engineering for Women and LGBTQIA folks

Music: Katy Ehrlich

Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

Photographer: Venetia Jollands



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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - 56. Emily Ashton: on getting arrested & musical protesting
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05/11/23 • 59 min

This week we speak with the inspiring Emily Ashton, baroque cellist, viola da gambist and climate activist. Emily is a founding member of XR Baroque, a group of early music environmentalists who perform at Extinction Rebellion protests. We discuss how we process the overwhelm and anxiety that come with thinking about climate change, the murkiness of being a freelance musician and staying true to your beliefs, and the tension between the need for systemic and individualistic change in environmental action.

We are so grateful to Emily for talking with such eloquence and gravitas on one of the most important topics.


XR Baroque's Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/375287633080945/

Check out Extinction Rebellion's website to see how you can get involved: https://extinctionrebellion.uk


Support us


Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta


Got a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkabout


Feeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about


Follow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcast


Edited by and music composed by Katy Ehrlich



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***This episode deals covers topics including eating disorders, mental illness and the Holocaust. Kate talks about them incredibly respectfully and not in graphic details, but for listeners that would rather sit this one out, we understand***


It's our last episode of 2022 and this time, we're speaking to the exceptional Dr. Kate Kennedy, broadcaster, academic, cellist and writer, who specialises in combining biography, words and music. She is also the Co-Director of the Oxford Centre for Life-writing and a research fellow at the University of Oxford.


We talk to her from the crypt of St. Clement Danes (with somebody's wedding going on above our heads), discussing her own experiences in life and in music, and about her current work on her book, Cello, an autobiography of the instrument itself and its musicians. We were particularly interested in her biography of war poet and musician, Ivor Gurney, speaking about his own struggles with mental illness and confinement to an asylum in later life. (Dweller in Shadows: A Life of Ivor Gurney, Princeton Press, 2021)


We're incredibly grateful to Kate for her eloquence and candidness about her own encounters with injury and struggles during her teenage years and early adulthood. It truly is a pleasure to listen to her, and interviewing her was such an enriching experience, and we cannot wait to read her future works.


Follow Kate on Twitter


Kate's website


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Find TMDTA on all the socials at @tmdtapodcast


Our website is: www.thingsmusiciansdonttalkabout.com


Support us on Patreon for £3 a month and get access to extra episodes and content!


Or buy us a Kofi


It's over and out from us for the year, and wishing you all an incredibly soul-warming holiday and New Year!


Love Becca, Katy and Hattie xx



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Things Musicians Don't Talk About - 81. Jalayne Mitchell: Classical Wellness

81. Jalayne Mitchell: Classical Wellness

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11/16/24 • 69 min

Back in February we talked with the legend, Jalayne Mitchell. It was such a special episode that we had to keep it brewing for many, many months. Jalayne has since taken a break from Classical Wellness but her message is still so vital and timely.


We talk about starting an instrument 'late' and playing catch up, starting a bold project outside the norm, the paralysis of performance anxiety and culture of silence at music college, amongst other things that just aren't cute at all.


Thank you Jalayne, not just for the work you've done but also for setting an example of reevaluating priorities and taking time out. Big respect.


Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow RSM on Instagram, X and Facebook.

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Support TMDTA

Want to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdta

Feeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about

Find TMDTA on all the socials at @tmdtapodcast

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Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

Editor: Oscar Gormley

Music: Katy Ehrlich



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How many episodes does Things Musicians Don't Talk About have?

Things Musicians Don't Talk About currently has 94 episodes available.

What topics does Things Musicians Don't Talk About cover?

The podcast is about Music, Mental Health, Music Industry, Podcasts, Classical Music, Arts, Mental Illness, Music Interviews, Interviews and Performing Arts.

What is the most popular episode on Things Musicians Don't Talk About?

The episode title '71. Chloé van Soeterstède: conducting through pregnancy & motherhood' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Things Musicians Don't Talk About?

The average episode length on Things Musicians Don't Talk About is 46 minutes.

How often are episodes of Things Musicians Don't Talk About released?

Episodes of Things Musicians Don't Talk About are typically released every 13 days, 18 hours.

When was the first episode of Things Musicians Don't Talk About?

The first episode of Things Musicians Don't Talk About was released on Jun 19, 2020.

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