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Therapy Chat - 365: Regaining Mindful Attention When The Therapist's Trauma History Is Activated With Dr. John Briere

365: Regaining Mindful Attention When The Therapist's Trauma History Is Activated With Dr. John Briere

01/12/23 • 79 min

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! Following up on last week's conversation on therapists and dissociation, this week, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C welcomes a guest who is an expert on complex trauma therapy and mindfulness. Dr. John Briere, a trauma and abuse survivor, has spent his 30 year career doing therapy with survivors of torture, sex trafficking and with patients on burn units, as well as research on complex trauma. He is Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry and the Behavioral Sciences at the University of Southern California Keck School of Medicine, and Senior Advisor to the USC Adolescent Trauma Training Center. He is recipient of the Award for Outstanding Contributions to the Science of Trauma Psychology from the American Psychological Association and the William N. Friedrich Lecturer: Outstanding Contribution to the Field of Child Psychology from the Mayo Clinic. He is author or co-author of over 140 articles and chapters, 15 books, and 9 trauma-related psychological tests.
His recent (2019) book with Guilford Press is Treating risky and compulsive behavior in trauma survivors. In the Buddhist/mindfulness domain, he is co-editor of Mindfulness-oriented interventions for trauma: Integrating contemplative practices (Guilford), and author of three chapters: Mindfulness, insight, and trauma therapy; Working with trauma: Mindfulness and compassion; and When people do bad things: Evil, suffering, and dependent origination. John has been Remote Faculty at the Institute for Meditation and Psychotherapy since 2013. Resources: - John explains and teaches the REGAIN technique that he and Tara Brach developed as a trauma focused modification of the RAIN technique taught by Tara Brach & Jack Kornfield. - John shares about his own history of trauma and how common it is for therapists to be trauma survivors. - John compassionately describes the 5 clinical dilemmas that often arise in complex trauma therapy which he calls "Reactive Avoidance" strategies: - Self Injury - Dissociation - Substance Abuse - Sexualized Behaviors - Angry/Challenging Behaviors directed toward the therapist - John normalizes these reactions, explaining that the client is not "bad" for acting out, and the therapist is not "bad," for having their own traumatic material arise in response when these dilemmas show up. - John shares how therapists (and clients) can use the REGAIN technique to get back to center when the Reactive Avoidance strategies show themselves. And much more! Find John's trainings, books, including 2 free chapters, articles, etc here: www.johnbriere.com
Want to learn more from John Briere and practice working with these 5 clinical dilemmas discussed in today's episode? Don’t miss his 5-day workshop in Cancun this February! Use
promo code JOHN50 at www.leadingedgecancun.com when you register for his workshop to save 50% on your hotel room when you book it at the same time. That’s a savings of up to $1500! New registrations only.
Other resources from this week's episode: Sign up for FREE to attend Ireen Ninonuevo's summit, Love After Abuse, Finding Safety & Trust in Relationships here. It begins on 1/16/23 and you'll hear my interview, entitled, "The Secret to Fulfilling Relationships is Inside of You," along with 20 other wonderful speakers. Therapists, save 15% when you attend a Level II NARM training in 2023 using coupon code: TraumaTherapist15 at: www.narmtraining.com Find Laura's most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review on Apple podcasts to help more people find the show!

Get our free PDF download to learn about the 5 mistakes most people make when searching for a trauma therapist here!

Thank you to Innovations in Psychotherapy 2023 in Cancun by Leading Edge Seminars for sponsoring this week's episode! Therapists, meet us in sunny Cancun in February 2023 for a week of training and vacation! Use code LAURA to save 10% on any 5-day workshop fee when purchased with a room at www.leadingedgecancun.com You’ll earn CEs in the morning, then have afternoons for fun at an all-inclusive resort. Workshops by Frank Anderson, Arielle Schwartz, John Briere, and more! Want to learn more from John Briere and practice working with these 5 clinical dilemmas discussed in today's episode? Don’t mi...
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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! Following up on last week's conversation on therapists and dissociation, this week, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C welcomes a guest who is an expert on complex trauma therapy and mindfulness. Dr. John Briere, a trauma and abuse survivor, has spent his 30 year career doing therapy with survivors of torture, sex trafficking and with patients on burn units, as well as research on complex trauma. He is Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry and the Behavioral Sciences at the University of Southern California Keck School of Medicine, and Senior Advisor to the USC Adolescent Trauma Training Center. He is recipient of the Award for Outstanding Contributions to the Science of Trauma Psychology from the American Psychological Association and the William N. Friedrich Lecturer: Outstanding Contribution to the Field of Child Psychology from the Mayo Clinic. He is author or co-author of over 140 articles and chapters, 15 books, and 9 trauma-related psychological tests.
His recent (2019) book with Guilford Press is Treating risky and compulsive behavior in trauma survivors. In the Buddhist/mindfulness domain, he is co-editor of Mindfulness-oriented interventions for trauma: Integrating contemplative practices (Guilford), and author of three chapters: Mindfulness, insight, and trauma therapy; Working with trauma: Mindfulness and compassion; and When people do bad things: Evil, suffering, and dependent origination. John has been Remote Faculty at the Institute for Meditation and Psychotherapy since 2013. Resources: - John explains and teaches the REGAIN technique that he and Tara Brach developed as a trauma focused modification of the RAIN technique taught by Tara Brach & Jack Kornfield. - John shares about his own history of trauma and how common it is for therapists to be trauma survivors. - John compassionately describes the 5 clinical dilemmas that often arise in complex trauma therapy which he calls "Reactive Avoidance" strategies: - Self Injury - Dissociation - Substance Abuse - Sexualized Behaviors - Angry/Challenging Behaviors directed toward the therapist - John normalizes these reactions, explaining that the client is not "bad" for acting out, and the therapist is not "bad," for having their own traumatic material arise in response when these dilemmas show up. - John shares how therapists (and clients) can use the REGAIN technique to get back to center when the Reactive Avoidance strategies show themselves. And much more! Find John's trainings, books, including 2 free chapters, articles, etc here: www.johnbriere.com
Want to learn more from John Briere and practice working with these 5 clinical dilemmas discussed in today's episode? Don’t miss his 5-day workshop in Cancun this February! Use
promo code JOHN50 at www.leadingedgecancun.com when you register for his workshop to save 50% on your hotel room when you book it at the same time. That’s a savings of up to $1500! New registrations only.
Other resources from this week's episode: Sign up for FREE to attend Ireen Ninonuevo's summit, Love After Abuse, Finding Safety & Trust in Relationships here. It begins on 1/16/23 and you'll hear my interview, entitled, "The Secret to Fulfilling Relationships is Inside of You," along with 20 other wonderful speakers. Therapists, save 15% when you attend a Level II NARM training in 2023 using coupon code: TraumaTherapist15 at: www.narmtraining.com Find Laura's most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review on Apple podcasts to help more people find the show!

Get our free PDF download to learn about the 5 mistakes most people make when searching for a trauma therapist here!

Thank you to Innovations in Psychotherapy 2023 in Cancun by Leading Edge Seminars for sponsoring this week's episode! Therapists, meet us in sunny Cancun in February 2023 for a week of training and vacation! Use code LAURA to save 10% on any 5-day workshop fee when purchased with a room at www.leadingedgecancun.com You’ll earn CEs in the morning, then have afternoons for fun at an all-inclusive resort. Workshops by Frank Anderson, Arielle Schwartz, John Briere, and more! Want to learn more from John Briere and practice working with these 5 clinical dilemmas discussed in today's episode? Don’t mi...

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364: Speaking Of Dissociation - With Dr. Jamie Marich

Welcome back to Therapy Chat! As we welcome the New Year, we are welcoming new perspectives. This week's episode is all about reconsidering what you've always thought about dissociation (if you've thought about it at all!). This week's guest is Dr. Jamie+ Marich. Jamie/Dr. Jamie uses she/they pronouns, identifying as a bisexual woman in recovery from a substance-related disorder who is part of a dissociative system. She is also an internationally recognized speaker, trainer in EMDR and expressive arts, the author of many books, and a psychotherapist in private practice. Their newest book, Dissociation Made Simple, includes stories shared by Jamie/Dr. Jamie and 61 contributors, nearly 40 of whom are mental health clinicians living with dissociative disorders. The book is for anyone to learn about dissociation, and the stories shared truly demystify this misunderstood and highly stigmatized experience. Listen in to hear Laura and Jamie+ discuss: - Reconceptualizing trauma - Understanding the spectrum of dissociation - Bias and misinformation in the therapy community about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) - Intersectionality of oppression and how it plays into stigma surrounding trauma and mental health, especially around dissociation - How to use the book - Speaking truth to powerful systems and institutions - Pierre Janet and Sigmund Freud Dr. Jamie+ Marich (she/they) describes themselves as a facilitator of transformative experiences. A clinical trauma specialist, expressive artist, writer, yogini, performer, short filmmaker, reiki master, TEDx speaker, and recovery advocate, she unites all of these elements in her mission to inspire healing in others. Jamie is a woman in long-term recovery from an addictive disorder and is living loudly and proudly as a woman with a
dissociative disorder with the goal of smashing stigma about dissociation in the mental health field and in society at large. Jamie+ began her career as a humanitarian aid worker in Bosnia- Herzegovina from 2000–2003, primarily teaching English and music. Jamie travels internationally teaching on topics related to trauma, EMDR Therapy, expressive arts, mindfulness, and yoga, while maintaining a private practice and online education operations in her home base of northeast Ohio. Jamie is the founder of The Institute for Creative Mindfulness and the developer of the Dancing Mindfulness approach to expressive arts therapy. She is the developer of Yoga for Clinicians.
Resources

Find Jamie's interviews, articles, etc here: www.traumamadesimple.com

Learn more about Dissociation Made Simple and Jamie at: https://redefinetherapy.com/

Learn about EMDR Training through Institute for Creative Mindfulness here.

Purchase Jamie Marich's books on Amazon:

EMDR Made Simple: 4 Approaches for Using EMDR with Every Client (2011);

Trauma and the Twelve Steps (2020);

Creative Mindfulness (2013);

Trauma Made Simple: Competencies in Assessment, Treatment, and Working with Survivors (2014);

Dancing Mindfulness: A Creative Path to Healing and Transformation (2015); and

Process Not Perfection: Expressive Arts Solutions for Trauma Recovery (2019).

Jamie coauthored EMDR Therapy & Mindfulness for Trauma- Focused Care along with colleague Dr. Stephen Dansiger in 2018,

Healing Addiction with EMDR Therapy: A Trauma-Focused Guide, was published in 2021.

Other resources from this week's episode: Sign up for FREE to attend Ireen Ninonuevo's summit, Love After Abuse, Finding Safety & Trust in Relationships here. It begins on 1/16/23 and you'll hear my interview, entitled, "The Secret to Fulfilling Relationships is Inside of You," along with 20 other wonderful speakers. If you're a healer who wants to embody an abundant mindset and change your relationship with receiving, learn about Keri Nola's programs. Get early access to Activator Live with coach Keri Nola by going here: http://activatorlive.com ...

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undefined - 366: Perfectionism Isn't Always A Bad Thing - With Katherine Morgan Schafler

366: Perfectionism Isn't Always A Bad Thing - With Katherine Morgan Schafler

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! We have talked a lot on Therapy Chat about perfectionism, and this week’s guest brings a slightly different perspective. Our guest today is a former onsite therapist at Google who proposes that it’s not always necessary to let go of being a perfectionist, because there are many positive aspects of this characteristic.

Katherine Morgan Schafler is a psychotherapist, writer and speaker, and former on-site therapist at Google. She earned degrees and trained at UC Berkeley and Columbia University, with post-graduate certification from the Association for Spirituality and Psychotherapy in New York City. Katherine’s new book, The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control: A path to peace and power, came out in January 2023.

In this episode:

Katherine explains the 5 types of perfectionism:

  1. Classic Perfectionists
  2. Intense Perfectionists
  3. Parisian Perfectionists
  4. Messy Perfectionists
  5. Procrastinator Perfectionists
She describes how each type presents with positive and negative aspects; Laura talks about the struggles to feel in control when the internal world feels chaotic as a perfectionist; Katherine shares how perfectionists can find a path to peace and power without losing a sense of control; And much more!

Visit Katherine’s website and learn about her book here.

Buy Katherine Morgan Schafler’s book, The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control: A path to peace and power on Amazon here.

Other resources from this week's episode:

Sign up for FREE to attend Ireen Ninonuevo's summit, Love After Abuse, Finding Safety & Trust in Relationships here. It begins on 1/16/23 and you'll hear my interview, entitled, "The Secret to Fulfilling Relationships is Inside of You," along with 20 other wonderful speakers.

Register for free for the Holistic Psychotherapy Summit, featuring world-renowned speakers including Pat Ogden and many others! Summit runs 1/23-28!

Get free trainings on Energy Work and Spirituality with trauma survivors from Dr. Frank Anderson and save on his training when you register here!

Learn about Keri Nola's Abundance Activator and get a special offer using coupon code: THERAPYCHAT at this link: https://activatorlive.com/

Therapists, save 15% when you attend a Level II NARM training in 2023 using coupon code: TraumaTherapist15 at: www.narmtraining.com

Find Laura's most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here

Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review on Apple podcasts to help more people find the show!

Get our free PDF download to learn about the 5 mistakes most people make when searching for a trauma therapist here!

This episode is sponsored by Trauma Therapist Network. Learn about trauma, connect with resources and find a trauma therapist near you at www.trauma therapist network.com. We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available. Therapists, registration opens in March 2023 for Trauma Therapist Network membership. We now have new membership levels and options for Group Practice Owners and Canadian therapists! Get the details and join the waiting list for early access next time registration goes live at: https://go.traumatherapistnetwork.com/join !

Thank you to Innovations in Psychotherapy 2023 in Cancun by Leading Edge Seminars for sponsoring this week's episode! Therapists, meet us in sunny Cancun in February 2023 for a week of training and vacation! Use code LAURA to save 10% on any 5-day workshop fee when purchased with a room at www.leadingedgecancun.com You’ll earn CEs in the morning, then have afternoons for fun at an all-inclusive resort. Workshops by Frank Anderson, Arielle Schwartz, John Briere, and m...

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