040 - Professor Peter O'Sullivan - How Has Pain Management Evolved?
05/23/20 • 63 min
In this interview, Marika and Antony talk to Professor Peter O'Sullivan.
Peter is a clinical researcher at Curtin University and specialist physiotherapist at Bodylogic Physiotherapy, Perth WA. With his team, he has published over 250 peer review articles on MSK pain and its management, His passion is empowering people disabled with pain to get back to living again.
In this interview, we discuss
- how COVID-19 is resulting in more anxiety and how this is showing up in clinics
- helping people in pain via Telehealth
- Pete's journey as a physiotherapist and in particular his thoughts around pain and how they have evolved over the years. (He even goes back to his experiences as a child and how family shaped his responses to pain). He talks about how frustrated he was with the biomechanical model of pain in his early years and how his personality as a rule breaker probably helped him to think outside the box and develop new ideas (alongside his colleagues).
- things that you can do in order to keep growing professionally and how to create positive clinical environments
- the pros and cons of doing patient demonstrations in front of live audiences
- the Biopsychosocial Model - how the "Bio" is really important and not to be ignored. We also discussed where manual therapy and touch can fit into it (and when it is maybe not appropriate!).
- Cognitive Functional Therapy (CFT) - the model that Pete and others created and how it is not about "talking to people" and a lot is based on building relationships and trust, as well as performing behavioural experiments.
- minimum requirements for physiotherapists in order to implement CFT - incl a discussion on how for some people learning CFT is relatively easy whereas for others it takes a long time or it's just not a good fit.
- bottom line - patient-centred care is where we should start. All models will be criticised/critiqued and will evolve over time, but if we put the person in the middle of their journey (and put our egos aside), we'll be doing a decent job of it.
You can learn more about Pete at
https://bodylogic.physio/
[email protected]
In this interview, Marika and Antony talk to Professor Peter O'Sullivan.
Peter is a clinical researcher at Curtin University and specialist physiotherapist at Bodylogic Physiotherapy, Perth WA. With his team, he has published over 250 peer review articles on MSK pain and its management, His passion is empowering people disabled with pain to get back to living again.
In this interview, we discuss
- how COVID-19 is resulting in more anxiety and how this is showing up in clinics
- helping people in pain via Telehealth
- Pete's journey as a physiotherapist and in particular his thoughts around pain and how they have evolved over the years. (He even goes back to his experiences as a child and how family shaped his responses to pain). He talks about how frustrated he was with the biomechanical model of pain in his early years and how his personality as a rule breaker probably helped him to think outside the box and develop new ideas (alongside his colleagues).
- things that you can do in order to keep growing professionally and how to create positive clinical environments
- the pros and cons of doing patient demonstrations in front of live audiences
- the Biopsychosocial Model - how the "Bio" is really important and not to be ignored. We also discussed where manual therapy and touch can fit into it (and when it is maybe not appropriate!).
- Cognitive Functional Therapy (CFT) - the model that Pete and others created and how it is not about "talking to people" and a lot is based on building relationships and trust, as well as performing behavioural experiments.
- minimum requirements for physiotherapists in order to implement CFT - incl a discussion on how for some people learning CFT is relatively easy whereas for others it takes a long time or it's just not a good fit.
- bottom line - patient-centred care is where we should start. All models will be criticised/critiqued and will evolve over time, but if we put the person in the middle of their journey (and put our egos aside), we'll be doing a decent job of it.
You can learn more about Pete at
https://bodylogic.physio/
[email protected]
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039 - Antony and Marika - Neurodiversity
Ok, so this podcast is slightly different to our usual!
In this episode we talk about neurodiversity...and in particular, Antony discusses his personal experience living with ADHD.
We reiterate that we (Marika and Antony) are NOT neurologists, psychologists, psychiatrists etc - and we are definitely NOT experts in ADHD or other neurodevelopmental disorders. We just wanted to have a chat about
- some of the difficulties associated with living with ADHD - in particular organisation/planning, staying focussed and getting tasks finished
- how difficult social situations can be and the nuances that are often missed
- how online forums can be particularly challenging (esp for those who are literal (black/white) thinkers
- how medication has helped Antony (when he remembers to take it!)
We hope that this generates a bit of conversation around neurodiversity - how thinking differently comes with challenges but how it can also result in incredible creativity! We need people that can think outside the box and support those who struggle with fitting into our neurotypical-biased community.
Additional:
In this episode, we start out by discussing Antony's upcoming mentoring program. To join, please head to: www.physiodetective.com/masterclass
Marika also discussed her online postnatal and pelvic "up and go" classes. If you would like to learn more, head to bodylogic.physio or email [email protected]. These classes can be attended by anyone living in Australia.
Next Episode
041 - Vicki Webber - How Does A Mother Of 4 Cope With Competitive Crossfit And Running A Gym?
In this episode we talk to Vicki Webber - CrossFit Competitor and Box owner.
Vicki shares with us
- how she fell in love with CrossFit and went from being someone who never really did much lifting to being an international competitor
- her pregnancy and birth experiences... and how different number four has been in comparison to the first three!
- her recent postnatal experience including difficulties with bladder control and heaviness in the perineum
- her experiences returning to CrossFit in the postnatal period
- how she has found that changing the way that she moves (with guidance from her physiotherapist) has helped her symptoms of heaviness in the perineum.
- her experience as a coach of the changes in post pregnancy information that is provided to pregnant and postnatal women
- how her coaching has changed since having recent symptoms of pelvic floor dysfunction
We hope to chat to Vicko again in the future to see how she is getting on in her journey.
You can learn more about Vicki here:
https://www.steelcoastcrossfit.com/
https://www.facebook.com/vicki.webber.75
https://www.instagram.com/vwebbs2011
[email protected]
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