
The Wize Way
Wize Mentoring for Accountants and Bookkeepers
Feeling stuck in your firm or on the edge of rapid growth but don't know how to build the business so that it’s not reliant on you?
Join Bren Ward as he shares the insights, stories, strategies and tools that have helped transform the businesses and lives of our Wize Guys and hundreds of Accounting, CPA and bookkeeping firm owners around the world.
In each episode, Bren dives into the leadership, marketing, sales, systems and mindset tactics that'll get you to your goals without burning out.
His interviews with his Wize co-founders and community of Wize firm owners are inspiring and transformational.
Subscribe to transform your challenges into opportunities and build a business that can run without you.
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09/19/24 • 28 min
In this episode of The Wize Guys Podcast, Kristy Fairbairn and Thomas Sphabmixay explore the daily habits of high-performing leaders in accounting and bookkeeping firms. They discuss the importance of dedicating one hour each day to personal development, focusing on areas like leadership, marketing, and technology.
Thomas emphasises the value of staying sharp and continuously learning to lead effectively. Kristy highlights the significance of maintaining clarity and alignment with long-term goals through daily non-negotiables like reviewing KPIs and energizing the body. Listeners are encouraged to structure their days intentionally, balancing work and personal growth for sustained success.
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

12/01/22 • 10 min
FREE DOWNLOAD!! Accountants! Scale your business today 🚀
Accountants Highway to the Danger Zone Playbook is a guide for accountants and bookkeepers looking to overcome the barriers that are holding them back from growing their firms. Our playbook shows you exactly what tactics we used when growing our firm so you can replicate it in your business today!
Click here to download the Accountants Highway To The Danger Zone Playbook 👉 https://wizementoring.mykajabi.com/accountants-highway-to-the-danger-zone
Episode 33: Planning your 2023 business growth strategy
In this episode of The Wize Guys Podcast, Jamie Johns touched on how to determine your ideal turnover to reach your ideal income. This is part of the barriers to growth that will allow you to develop an effective business plan and growth strategy.
Find out the best tips in accounting business’ planning for 2023!
Timestamps:
0:43 - The concept of business plan and growth strategy
1:12 - How to figure out your ideal income
2:18 - Grab your FREE business plan template
3:28 - Step-by-step guide to creating your growth plan
Quotations:
“...part of overcoming the barriers to growth is to try and reach what your ideal turnover or fees are in order to reach your ideal income.” - Jamie Johns
USEFUL LINKS:
- Business Plan Template
- Download FREE eBook: The Accountant's 20-Hour Workweek Playbook
GET IN TOUCH!
Website: www.wizementoring.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wizementoring/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/wizementoring
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wizementoring/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wize.guys/?hl=en
Email: [email protected]
Download the full transcript here.
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

Episode 55: How to up skill grad accountants and bookkeepers to intermediate/ senior level in 12 weeks flat
The Wize Way
05/18/23 • 27 min
Episode 55: How to up skill grad accountants and bookkeepers to intermediate/ senior level in 12 weeks flat
In this episode of The Wize Guys Podcast, Ed Chan together with Kristy Fairbairn, one of the Wize Mentors is joined by TMS Eng Sivieng, our resource speaker for this session.
Eng shares her framework for developing staff and discusses her focus on training, as well as the challenges she has faced. The group also explores the advantages of choosing fresh graduates over junior, intermediate, and senior accountants. Tune in for valuable insights on staff development in accounting practices!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - Eng Sivieng from TMS Financial Services
2:49 - WizeMarket: Practical Training Programs for Junior & Senior Accountants
7:30 - Understanding the framework and 4Ps
13:51 - How do find time in building a training framework
16:46 - Tips for training your people
21:59 - Why do you prefer fresh graduates over junior, intermediate, and senior accountants?
24:06 - How to be a successful practitioner?
Quotations:
"The process doesn't take long, but the preparation station normally takes longer." - Eng Sivieng
"You really have to [empower them] because they're very smart already. You have to be able to empower them to be able to bring out their goodness and talent." - Eng Sivieng
"It's okay to not know some things. If you'd open up and you speak up, you ask, learn more, you can gain more." - Eng Sivieng
"The more confidence they build, the more competence they have." - Eng Sivieng
USEFUL LINKS:
- WizeMarket: Take your firm to the next level! https://www.wizementoring.com/wize-market/
- Download FREE eBook: The Accountant's 7-Hour Workweek Playbook
GET IN TOUCH!
Website: www.wizementoring.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wizementoring/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/wizementoring
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wizementoring/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wize.guys/?hl=en
Email: [email protected]
Download the full transcript here.
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

08/25/22 • 35 min
Episode 26: How to Get Your Capacity Plan Humming
“As Jamie uses that analogy with the glass of water you want to, if you want to grow, you've got to have that cup, not at the full at the ring...”
In this episode of The Wize Guys, Brenton Ward, Jamie Johns, and Ed Chan talk about Capacity Plan – The most critical tool for a high-performing and profitable production and discuss how having a capacity plan in place is one of the fundamental tools they recommend for scaling a practice. They provide some insight into capacity planning and why it's so important to the growth of the business.
They also discuss what are the most common reasons for overcapacity. What are the negative outcomes because of this and what are suggested approaches to correcting this? Learn more on this episode to get you started to work on your capacity plan in place!
Timestamps:
1:11 - Understanding the context of a capacity plan
2:25 - The importance of having a capacity planner
5:04 - How to science right with your people
8:54 - The rule of thumb
10:20 - Tips for capacity planning
13:12 - Most common reasons for overcapacity
17:38 - Key points to work in capacity planning
23:29 - Reasons why you need spare capacity
28:02 - How to allocate productivity with training
30:12 - Is it ok to disclose staff salaries to the team?
32:04 - How to determine charge-out rates
Quotations:
“In our industry, productivity really gets the clarity because between charging right and productivity and the number of hours a person works, this is what your capacity is per person and wallet. It’s not an exact science. It's a really good guide, particularly if you're trying to grow your firm.” - Jamie Johns
“So just getting the balance rights important between servicing and growth. If you want to grow, you've got to spend more time in front of your clients.” - Ed Chan
USEFUL LINKS:
GET IN TOUCH!
Website: www.wizementoring.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wizementoring/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/wizementoring
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wizementoring/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wize.guys/?hl=en
Email: support@wiz
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

02/29/24 • 13 min
We are currently looking for 2 practice owners with $300k-$3M revenue who would like hands-on help to scale their firm in the next 12 months. Must be coach-able and ready to implement.
Apply here: https://forms.zohopublic.com.au/wizementoring/form/WizeGrowthDiscovery/formperma/xWwns0wTLoKShmR0jlg0VMaW0FHVQ-V4UdDDecy9aYM
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Imagine transforming your practice from a time-consuming juggernaut into a flourishing enterprise that scales new heights while granting you the freedom to pursue your passions.
In this episode of The WizeFactor Chat of The Wize Guys Podcast, we had a conversation with Shayan Rashid, a Partner - Chartered Professional Accountant at SRJ Chartered Accountants Professional.
Shayan shares the astonishing evolution of their business through mindset shifts and culture that enabled him to not only welcome over a million in new work but also embrace the art of saying 'no' to potential clients who weren't the right fit. It's a narrative that celebrates the small, yet significant strategies that collectively catalyzed her practice's success, and it's brimming with insights that every practice owner can apply to catalyze their growth.
In parallel, he lifts the veil on his own experience of stepping back from the nitty-gritty of everyday operations to focus on strategic growth and partnerships. By assembling a stellar team and crafting effective systems, I've liberated myself to engage more deeply in basketball, coaching, and travel, all while mentoring the next wave of entrepreneurial talent. Our conversation is not just a reflection on our personal journeys; it's a blueprint for aggressive business expansion and a testimonial to the liberating power of a well-structured business. For those hungry to reshape their business and life, our episode provides the motivation and the methodologies to make it happen!
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

03/29/23 • 8 min
Episode 48: The concept of implementing a no-blame culture
So, focus on the problem, focus on fixing the problem. Focus on finding solutions to the problem, irrespective of how the problem was created, or who created the problem.
In this episode of The Wize Guys Podcast, Brenton Ward and Ed Chan discussed what the “No Blame” culture is all about and how implementing it in your organization can be a total game-changer.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - What is the 'No Blame' Culture?
2:05 - Reasons why you should create a friendly environment
2:56 - The importance of focusing on the problem
4:02 - How managing people affects work productivity
5:29 - The concept of maturity continuum from Dr. Stephen Covey's book Seven Habits of Highly Effective People
5:59 - Leadership = Interdependence
7:22 - How to become a better leader
#wizementoring #noblame #culture
Quotations:
“I often see accounting firms blaming people for problems and then often they don't know they're doing it, it's just through frustration. So, it's either in their face or their body language or when there's a mistake made.” - Ed Chan
“One of the biggest mistakes that managers make is blaming people for mistakes. It's really difficult because of the mistakes made by it. There's a domino effect all the way down the line. It's extremely frustrating. However, your role as a manager is to get the best out of your people.” - Ed Chan
“If you can create an environment where it's open and solution focus and people are looking for solutions rather than looking for problems, then you're going to have an abundant environment rather than a scarcity environment.” - Ed Chan
GET IN TOUCH!
Website: www.wizementoring.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wizementoring/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/wizementoring
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wizementoring/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wize.guys/?hl=en
Email: [email protected]
Download the full transcript here.
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

Episode 50: Introducing the NEW WizeHub
The Wize Way
04/13/23 • 5 min
Episode 50: Introducing the NEW WizeHub
WizeHub is a proprietary business intelligence application that allows you to track the heartbeat and results of your firm in real-time. (It’s not just about technology but also aligning people to use it correctly for results!)
In this episode of The Wize Guys Podcast, Jamie Johns and one of the Wize Mentors, Tim Causbrook discuss WizeHub, a cloud-based tool for managing accounting and bookkeeping firms.
Jamie shares the history of how he came up with the concept for the WizeHub, starting with his love for computers and technology from a young age. He talks about how he struggled with dyslexia and the need for the organization to learn effectively.
So, if you want to know the reasons why WizeHub is a powerful tool for scaling and growing your practice, allowing firms to operate without relying on you, as the business owner then this episode is for you!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Jamie Johns’s story from frantic to freedom
2:18 - How WizeHub started
3:21 - What is the WizeHub tool?
USEFUL LINKS:
- Get exclusive and early bird access to WizeHub! The ultimate business intelligence software for growing accounting firms of any size: https://www.wizementoring.com/wizehub-offer/
- Book a WizeHub demo: https://www.wizementoring.com/wizehub-offer/
GET IN TOUCH!
Website: www.wizementoring.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wizementoring/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/wizementoring
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wizementoring/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wize.guys/?hl=en
Email: [email protected]
Download the full transcript here.
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

Episode 54: Understanding the Context of ‘No Bypass Policy’ for Your Accounting Team Structure
The Wize Way
05/11/23 • 5 min
Episode 54: Understanding the Context of ‘No Bypass Policy’ for Your Accounting Team Structure
In this episode of The Wize Guys Podcast, Brenton Ward, Jamie Johns, and Ed Chan share their insights about the need for a discovery session for every accounting practice.
To find out how to ensure that you are not a prisoner in your own business, Ed and Jamie will give a thorough outline of how you can start to design or redesign your business to achieve the ROI of your end goals.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:52 - Understanding the ‘No Bypass Policy’
1:24 - How body-system reporting works
2:03 - Why structure is related to your internal processes
2:24 - The importance of delegation and a hierarchical system.
4:29 - How to empower your team
Quotations:
“One of the most important things in a deeper narrow team structure, particularly with practice firm owners looking to implement it is the No-bypass policy because the deeper narrow team structure doesn't really work without the No-bypass policy.” - Jamie Johns
"If you want them to take more responsibility, stop undermining them." - Ed Chan
USEFUL LINKS:
- Download FREE eBook: The Accountant's 7-Hour Workweek Playbook
GET IN TOUCH!
Website: www.wizementoring.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wizementoring/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/wizementoring
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wizementoring/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wize.guys/?hl=en
Email: [email protected]
Download the full transcript here.
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

Episode 53: Why use NPS for staff and clients
The Wize Way
05/03/23 • 19 min
Episode 53: Why use NPS for staff and clients
What you want is a healthy business. You want the staff to be happy. You want the clients to be happy. And you want all your numbers, your sales profits, and new clients coming through trending upwards.
In this episode of The Wize Guys Podcast, Ed Chan and Jamie Johns together with one of the Wize Mentors, Tim Causbrook discusses why it is important to use NPS for staff and clients and how this affects the clients and how will this help with customer satisfaction and service improvement.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Understanding the concept of having the Net Promoter Score (NPS) in your firm
2:06 - What is an ethical letter?
2:31 - The importance of using NPS for your staff and clients
8:54 - How does NPS affect you and the clients
10:28 - What to do if your clients are not happy?
12:21 - Tips for managing client expectations
13:51 - Some NPS software applications to use
14:32 - What is the ideal time to send NPS
16:58 - How to take action
Quotations:
“We should be embracing continuous improvement because you won’t know what you need to improve unless you ask and get some feedback.” - Ed Chan
“Problems in any business happen, it doesn’t matter what business you are, and research has found it’s how you respond to the problem.” - Jamie Johns
“You talk to the client and you get a 10, you don't talk to the client, you get a 4. I mean that's really all it is.” - Tim Causbrook
USEFUL LINKS:
- Download FREE eBook: The Accountant's 7-Hour Workweek Playbook
GET IN TOUCH!
Website: www.wizementoring.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wizementoring/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/wizementoring
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wizementoring/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wize.guys/?hl=en
Email: [email protected]
Download the full transcript here.
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here

03/13/25 • 16 min
In this week's episode of The Wize Way Podcast for Accountants and Bookkeepers, Brenton Ward, Jamie Johns, and Ed Chan share their insights about the need for a discovery session for every accounting practice.
Find out how to run a discovery session, how having the right mindset is important in doing so, and the list of best questions to use for every call you will have that will best work for your business
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PS: Whenever you’re ready... here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm:
1. Take the Wize Accountants Scale Scorecard – Find out your potential to scale and the next steps you should follow – Start Your Scorecard
2. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here
2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here
4. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here
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How many episodes does The Wize Way have?
The Wize Way currently has 154 episodes available.
What topics does The Wize Way cover?
The podcast is about Management, Entrepreneur, Accounting, How To, Podcasts, Education, Mentoring and Business.
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The episode title 'Episode 33: Planning your 2023 business growth strategy' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on The Wize Way is 22 minutes.
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Episodes of The Wize Way are typically released every 7 days.
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The first episode of The Wize Way was released on May 4, 2021.
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