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The Unstarving Musician - The Music Industry is About Money, Not Talent – Rock Talk Podcast Host Sommer Sharon
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The Music Industry is About Money, Not Talent – Rock Talk Podcast Host Sommer Sharon

02/09/18 • 49 min

The Unstarving Musician

In 2011 Sommer Sharon started a Facebook page and Twitter account for a music promotions project. It was a project born of sheer interest, but things started to get interesting when Joe Satriani followed her Twitter account. Satriani was her fourth follower. Her interest suddenly became a business.

Musicians and music industry pros started to take notice of her work. This lead to the development of a great music network that included bands and solo artists from around the globe, publicists, magazine owners, radio hosts, and promoters.

Among those who took notice was Screamer Magazine, which lead to a writing gig, and new acquaintances in music. Before she knew it, Sommer was booking a weekly concert series, festivals, shows all over the midwest, and entertainment for Harley Davidson events.

Sommer has since become host/creator of the Rock Talk Podcast. The podcast has become a platform where she's leveraging her digital marketing expertise and music journalism experience to champion women in the music industry and arts. Our conversation also digs into the state of Rock Talk the podcast, Sommer's interest and work in music, technology, and women's advocacy.

"The industry is about money, not talent.”

I believe it was Sommer who recently said to me, "The industry is about money, not talent.” Although she wouldn’t be the first to make this observation, we got a kick out of discussing it. It’s a sentiment that we tend to agree with on many levels.

When I asked her to talk about the beginnings of her music interest, she shares a childhood story involving a 3rd grade girl with crazy hair, a Care Bears radio, and an Iron Maiden cassette. It's a story that provided inspiration for the intro of her Rock Talk Podcast. Hear the full story in this episode.

SHOW NOTES Tom Tom Magazine Margo Z, Cover Artist of Van Halen’s 1984 Jay Vigon, Artist Designer @chickenfootjoe Joe Satriani on Twitter Screamer Magazine Bullet Boys Performer Magazine Revolver Magazine Royal Bliss The Brassy Broadcast with Jen Edds Greg Marra Iconoclast Music Podcast Mira Goto Susan Rogers Lori Lee Love Your Story Lisa Leuschner Andersen Kid Andersen Sleigh Consulting Libsyn podcast hosting Rock Talk Podcast Facebook Page Rock Talk Podcast on Instagram Rock Talk on Apple Podcasts RESOURCES FOR MUSICIANS

The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs ConvertKit – Awesome email marketing solution, something every musician needs! DreamHost – Been using this web hosting service forever. Love them, trust them! More resources – Deals on musician resources.

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In 2011 Sommer Sharon started a Facebook page and Twitter account for a music promotions project. It was a project born of sheer interest, but things started to get interesting when Joe Satriani followed her Twitter account. Satriani was her fourth follower. Her interest suddenly became a business.

Musicians and music industry pros started to take notice of her work. This lead to the development of a great music network that included bands and solo artists from around the globe, publicists, magazine owners, radio hosts, and promoters.

Among those who took notice was Screamer Magazine, which lead to a writing gig, and new acquaintances in music. Before she knew it, Sommer was booking a weekly concert series, festivals, shows all over the midwest, and entertainment for Harley Davidson events.

Sommer has since become host/creator of the Rock Talk Podcast. The podcast has become a platform where she's leveraging her digital marketing expertise and music journalism experience to champion women in the music industry and arts. Our conversation also digs into the state of Rock Talk the podcast, Sommer's interest and work in music, technology, and women's advocacy.

"The industry is about money, not talent.”

I believe it was Sommer who recently said to me, "The industry is about money, not talent.” Although she wouldn’t be the first to make this observation, we got a kick out of discussing it. It’s a sentiment that we tend to agree with on many levels.

When I asked her to talk about the beginnings of her music interest, she shares a childhood story involving a 3rd grade girl with crazy hair, a Care Bears radio, and an Iron Maiden cassette. It's a story that provided inspiration for the intro of her Rock Talk Podcast. Hear the full story in this episode.

SHOW NOTES Tom Tom Magazine Margo Z, Cover Artist of Van Halen’s 1984 Jay Vigon, Artist Designer @chickenfootjoe Joe Satriani on Twitter Screamer Magazine Bullet Boys Performer Magazine Revolver Magazine Royal Bliss The Brassy Broadcast with Jen Edds Greg Marra Iconoclast Music Podcast Mira Goto Susan Rogers Lori Lee Love Your Story Lisa Leuschner Andersen Kid Andersen Sleigh Consulting Libsyn podcast hosting Rock Talk Podcast Facebook Page Rock Talk Podcast on Instagram Rock Talk on Apple Podcasts RESOURCES FOR MUSICIANS

The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs ConvertKit – Awesome email marketing solution, something every musician needs! DreamHost – Been using this web hosting service forever. Love them, trust them! More resources – Deals on musician resources.

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undefined - Finding Happiness in the Blues and Howlin' at Greaseland –  Stephanie Tice

Finding Happiness in the Blues and Howlin' at Greaseland – Stephanie Tice

Stephanie Tice and I have mutual ties to Greaseland Studios in San Jose. We share an interest in some of the artists that have recorded there. In Stephanie’s case, however, it’s more. She has fallen head over heels for the blues.

Finding Little Lou's , Poor House Bistro & Greaseland

Following a big life change, Stephanie found happiness at San Jose blues venues Little Lou’s and Poor House Bistro. The blues saved Stephanie when she needed saving.

It was during this time that she met Norwegian born Kid Andersen of Greaseland Studios. Stephanie happens to speak Norwegian, so she and Kid hit it off. Stephanie soon thereafter went to Greaseland where she discovered that a number of special recordings had been done.

Howlin' at Greaseland

Fast forward and she becomes the executive producer for Howlin’ at Greaseland. At the time of this interview, Howlin’ at Greaseland had been nominated for Traditional Blues Album of the year. The album is a tribute to Howlin’ Wolf and it features 25 artists including Henry Gray, Taildragger, Terry Hanck, John Blues Boyd. Aki Kumar, Chris James, Patrick Rin, and Kid Andersen among others. A couple of the featured artists actually toured with Howlin’ Wolf and share story snippets about their friendships with him.

Blues culture and being a producer

Stephanie is extremely fascinated in the development of blues culture around the world and the many language barriers it's broken. She hosts Basking in the Blues, which is a radio program featured on KKCR in Kauai. She does this as DJ Ginger Moonstone.

We discuss details of being a producer, her work with Rockin’ Johnny Burgin, projects she’s dreaming up with producer/sound engineer Ron Nevison, who has worked Jefferson Starship, KISS, The Who, Bad Company and many more. We also talk about a podcast she’s making plans to start. A podcast she says will cover world blues news.

“All blues are lusty lyrical realism charged with taut sensibility.” – –Richard Wright, Writer

Stephanie shared a quote with me that she found during her research of blues music culture. The quote is, “All blues are lusty lyrical realism charged with taught sensibility.” Stephanie sees the blues as filled with despair and humiliation, but also with hope. She’s just mad for the blues I tell you.

Please enjoy our conversation. And take a moment to explore the Blues Music Awards at Blues.org.

SHOW NOTES

Rockin’ Johnny Burgin Greaseland Little Lou’s Poor House Bistro Kongsberg Jazz Festival of Norway Notodden Blues Festival of Norway Howlin’ at Greaseland Taildragger Aki Kumar Terry Hank John Blues Boyd Chris Cain Blues Music Awards Ron Nevison SWOT Analysis Marina Crouse KKCR Kauai MTV Unplugged

RESOURCES FOR MUSICIANS

The Unstarving Musician’s Guide to Getting Paid Gigs ConvertKit – Awesome email marketing solution, something every musician needs! DreamHost – Been using this web hosting service forever. Love them, trust them! More resources – Deals on musician resources.

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undefined - Where Financial Fear, Elusive Fame, and Abundance Collide – Liz Cirelli

Where Financial Fear, Elusive Fame, and Abundance Collide – Liz Cirelli

Liz Cirelli describes her music journey as a push and pull affair that began from an egotistical point of view. She's been challenged by a fear of financial lacking, elusive fame, and the absence of help. Today she finds solace in the realization that she's always had everything she needs.

Cirelli was born in the UK of Italian parents. Today, she lives in the tiny village of Roseto Valfortore, in the Puglia region of Italy. She describes Roseto Valfortore as a beautiful place, free of distraction and great for creativity. She's a composer, producer, and creative mentor. Her studio lives in a laptop, going where she goes.

The state of Liz's music career is very much the product of a recent trip to California, where she met with her now music production mentor Gary Gray. At the time Liz felt she lacked the funds for the trip, but said it was a calling of the heart that restored her faith in humanity. The trip was to attend an educational event for music producers, songwriters, and music entrepreneurs (aka musicpreneurs). At the event Liz met a panel of great educators and connected with two fellow students who are now important friends and collaborators. It's no surprise that Liz believes in the mind-expanding and horizon-broadening power of travel.

During her California sojourn, Liz took a licensing course by Aaron Davison. She'd hit an impasse with licensing, and had many questions. Because most of Liz's questions were of a technical/production nature, Aaron referred her to Gary Gray. Soon after their first meeting, Gary became Liz's production mentor. He offered important production advice such as A/B, referencing, stressing the importance of using existing commercial tracks as a point of reference. Not all of his advice was production related. According to Liz, Gary also said, “If you want to change your thoughts, first change your behavior.” This bit of advice proved quite important to Liz. She talks about this profound tip in a video on her YouTube channel. The ensuing revelation has helped Liz change her behavior such that it is in alignment with who she wants to be as an artist. It has also enabled her to feel a sense of forward motion in her life and music.

The genrefication of Liz Cirelli

Liz finds it challenging to place herself into a specific genre, but admittedly identifies with electronica, dream pop and deep house. Where she sees herself in terms of genre was a personal curiosity of mine. I have an appreciation of electronica, but don't know much about the important artists or sub-genres. Liz has given me a brief education and new point of reference. It could be her classical/DJ/electronica influence and fusion that appeals to me personally. Whatever it is–I like it.

A music marketeer in action

I saw Liz as a standout for this podcast the moment I discovered her via social (Twitter or Facebook). Her online presence, marketing, and breadth of work impressed me instantly. Once we connected via Twitter, she gently asked if I'd be interested in a sample of her music and other goodies via email. I said yes, as I was curious to see her marketing funnel in action. She quickly sent me a pre-release gift from her forthcoming release.

Liz's Artistic Journey

Liz's journey as an artist goes back to her teenage years as a ballet dancer and spans music studies, DJ'ing, and ultimately falling in love with electronic music. Her desire to create music also meant learning how to produce it. She confessed to me that she initially lacked the patience and humility required to produce music, adding that she struggled to make a decent living in the beginning. Time told Liz, however, that creating music is what she needed to do. Moving to Italy helped.

After taking Aaron Davison’s course on licensing and meeting with Gary Gray, it dawned on Liz what she needed to become an indie artist. Among those lessons, Liz learned how to set herself up online with WordPress, learned social media, and continues to invest in education. She's also figured out how to package all of what she's capable of offering into a livelihood. Her ongoing education, she says, has also provided the benefit of a strong support network.

Coursework has also taught Liz how to properly nurture her fan base. She spends 1-2 hours daily interacting with her audience, be it by email or social media. A growing Facebook community that she calls Day Dream Believers and a twice monthly email newsletter adds fuel to her fan base fire. It's not all marketing for the sake of marketing though. Liz tells me that she finds the contact to be a pleasure, because she’s dealing with people who actually care about what she’s doing.

Where daily routines and creativity clash

Liz starts her day with a cup of mate tea, but otherwise often heads straight to the studio. Once upon a time, her mornings revolved around yoga and meditation. While she still pr...

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