John Mabry on Shamanism and Spirituality

08/20/21 • 39 min

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John Mabry is a United Church of Christ pastor and is the Director of the Spiritual Direction Program at Chaplaincy Institute. He is the lead singer of 2 bands in the Bay area and is the author of many novels and books on theology, spirituality, and spiritual guidance.

In this episode, Eric and John discuss his book, Soul Journeys: Christian Spirituality and Shamanism as Pathways for Wholeness and Understanding

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In This Interview, John Mabry and I Discuss Shamanism, Spirituality, and ...

His book, Soul Journeys: Christian Spirituality and Shamanism as Pathways for Wholeness and Understanding
How life is messy for everyone and how we’re not seeing everyone’s entire picture
His Shamanic journey experience of finding wisdom and healing
The upper, middle, and lower worlds as part of a shamanic journey
His spirit animal, the panther
How practice and training our imagination can form relationships with spiritual realities
The importance of leaving room for mystery
How our culture reinforces that only what can be measured and explained is real
Using the word trust rather than believe
His morning practice of imaginative prayer
His exploration into the different spiritual traditions and finding where his heart lives

John Mabry Links:

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In this episode, Eric and John discuss his book, Soul Journeys: Christian Spirituality and Shamanism as Pathways for Wholeness and Understanding

In This Interview, John Mabry and I Discuss Shamanism, Spirituality, and ...

His book, Soul Journeys: Christian Spirituality and Shamanism as Pathways for Wholeness and Understanding
How life is messy for everyone and how we’re not seeing everyone’s entire picture
His Shamanic journey experience of finding wisdom and healing
The upper, middle, and lower worlds as part of a shamanic journey
His spirit animal, the panther
How practice and training our imagination can form relationships with spiritual realities
The importance of leaving room for mystery
How our culture reinforces that only what can be measured and explained is real
Using the word trust rather than believe
His morning practice of imaginative prayer
His exploration into the different spiritual traditions and finding where his heart lives

John Mabry Links:

John’s Website

Facebook

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