
TikTok Music Marketing Grows Up
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07/05/23 • 57 min
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Order THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business here: https://book.aristake.com
Joining us this week on the New Music Business is Johnny Cloherty, the founder and CEO of Songfluencer. Songfluencer is a global, innovative creative marketing agency of music experts that turns followers into fans by strategically pairing songs, artists, and brands with key tastemaker influencers on music-forward social media platforms including TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. They’ve worked with artists such as Lil Nas X, Bruno Mars, Justin Bieber, Fleetwood Mac, and many more.
04:47 Welcome
07:17 Music industry gatekeepers
10:48 Explosion of influencer marketing, working with every major label
12:43 How the TikTok platform has matured
17:03 Artists targeting the correct demographics
24:24 How Songfluencer runs campaigns and achieves artists' goals
32:33 Is it necessary for artists to have a presence on TikTok?
38:20 Advice for artists for don't understand the platform
42:44 Collaborating with both legacy and emerging artists
52:00 Social media posting schedule
56:11 What it means to make it in the new music business
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Connect with Ari Herstand:
Website: https://ariherstand.com
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand
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Connect with Songfluencer:
Website: https://songfluencer.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nomadcry
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/songfluencer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/songfluencer
Edited and mixed by Maxton Hunter
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Order THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business here: https://book.aristake.com
Joining us this week on the New Music Business is Johnny Cloherty, the founder and CEO of Songfluencer. Songfluencer is a global, innovative creative marketing agency of music experts that turns followers into fans by strategically pairing songs, artists, and brands with key tastemaker influencers on music-forward social media platforms including TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. They’ve worked with artists such as Lil Nas X, Bruno Mars, Justin Bieber, Fleetwood Mac, and many more.
04:47 Welcome
07:17 Music industry gatekeepers
10:48 Explosion of influencer marketing, working with every major label
12:43 How the TikTok platform has matured
17:03 Artists targeting the correct demographics
24:24 How Songfluencer runs campaigns and achieves artists' goals
32:33 Is it necessary for artists to have a presence on TikTok?
38:20 Advice for artists for don't understand the platform
42:44 Collaborating with both legacy and emerging artists
52:00 Social media posting schedule
56:11 What it means to make it in the new music business
Subscribe to The New Music Business: https://aristake.com/nmb
Ari’s Take Academy (use code NMB for 10% off!): https://aristakeacademy.com
Watch more discussions like this: https://bit.ly/3LavMpa
Connect with Ari’s Take:
Website: https://aristake.com
Instagram: https://instagram.com/aristake_
TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@aris.take
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake
YouTube: https://youtube.com/user/aristake1
Connect with Ari Herstand:
Website: https://ariherstand.com
Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand
YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand
Connect with Songfluencer:
Website: https://songfluencer.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nomadcry
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/songfluencer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/songfluencer
Edited and mixed by Maxton Hunter
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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SoundCloud is Allowing Artists To Contact Fans (and Get Paid More)
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Joining us this week on the New Music Business are SoundCloud’s very own Tracy Chan (Chief Content Officer) and Emmy Lovell (Global Head of Music).
11:44 Welcome
14:58 History of SoundCloud and why they're different from the other DSPs
22:41 Where SoundCloud is moving, and how they're making the artist and fan relationship stronger
26:52 Resurgence of breakout stars and being a place where musicians get feedback
31:50 "Fan Powered Royalties"
37:31 'Fans' tool within SoundCloud for Artists
42:47 How DMing fans is beneficial for artists
49:21 How artists can access monetization through SoundCloud's new partnership with Merlin and Warner
57:43 What it means to make it in the New Music Business
Subscribe to The New Music Business: https://aristake.com/nmb
Ari’s Take Academy (use code NMB for 10% off!): https://aristakeacademy.com
Watch more discussions like this: https://bit.ly/3LavMpa
Connect with Ari’s Take:
Website: https://aristake.com
Instagram: https://instagram.com/aristake_
TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@aris.take
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake
YouTube: https://youtube.com/user/aristake1
Connect with Ari Herstand:
Website: https://ariherstand.com
Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand
YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand
Connect with SoundCloud
Website: https://soundcloud.com/
For Artists: https://artists.soundcloud.com/
Fans: https://artists.soundcloud.com/fans
Edited and mixed by Maxton Hunter
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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AI Music Co. CEO on Future of Music Creation (and Streaming Fraud)
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Join us on the New Music Business podcast this week with Alex Mitchell, founder and CEO of Boomy Corporation, an AI-powered music creation and distribution platform where over 500,000 creators make, publish, and monetize instant songs.
06:25 - Welcome
13:18 - What is AI Music?
22:00 - The traditional definition of a "musician" will be redefined
26:35 - The considerations of designing an AI music program
34:45 - The case studies of those using Boomy
41:27 - Distribution of AI music and commoditization
47:51 - How AI music may affect streaming payouts
57:24 - Boomy owns music made on the platform. Why?
01:05:30 - Laws and the legal future of AI music
01:21:35 - How would Ari build an AI music platform?
Subscribe to The New Music Business: https://aristake.com/nmb/
Ari's Take Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com
Watch more discussions like this: https://bit.ly/3LavMpa
Connect with Ari’s Take:
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take
X: https://twitter.com/ArisTake
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1
Connect with Ari Herstand:
Website: https://ariherstand.com
Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand
X: https://twitter.com/ariherstand
YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand
Connect with Alex Mitchell:
Website: https://boomy.com/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/boomymusic
X: https://twitter.com/boomy.music
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@boomy.music
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexjaemitchell/
Edited and mixed by Mikey Evans
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
#BoomyMusic #AIMusic #IndieArtist
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