
127: Avoiding Career Burnout with Cait Donovan
10/18/22 • 42 min
Cait Donovan’s favorite emotion is resentment. Her resentment fuels every decision she makes to help keep her life and career balanced while it's continuously changing.
Many mid-career professionals experience burnout, especially those in the “sandwich generation” who are raising their families while taking care of their aging parents.
In this episode, Cait and John sit down to talk about the differences between stress and burnout, why burnout is caused by self-neglect, how boundaries make you more generous, and Cait shares some tips to help you deal with burnout so you can take better care of yourself.
Connect with Cait Donovan – Website | FRIED – The Burnout Podcast | Book
Key Topics & Time Stamps:
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· Introduction (0:05)
· Meet Cait Donovan (4:27)
· What is Burnout? (9:47)
· Why Cait Does Burnout Work (11:27)
· Burnout & Self-Neglect (13:17)
· Bouncebackability and Your Health (18:29)
· Difference Between Stress & Burnout (21:42)
· The Power of Life Pruning (24:37)
· Boundaries Make You More Generous (27:12)
· Tips for Dealing with Burnout (30:37)
· Look for the Resentment (34:37)
· Cait’s Advice to Help You Build Your Mid-Career GPS (39:12)
· Connect with Cait (40:40)
List of Resources:
- 26 Sentence Starter to Help You Answer Any Interview Question by John Neral
- Your Mid-Career GPS – Four Steps to Figuring Out What’s Next by John Neral
- SHOW UP - Six Strategies to Lead a More Energetic and Impactful Career by John Neral
Calls to Action:
· Get your free Mid-Career
Thank you for listening to The Mid-Career GPS Podcast.
Please leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts here.
Visit https://johnneral.com/resources to get The Mid-Career Job Search Jumpstart and join The Mid-Career GPS Membership Community.
Visit https://johnneral.com to join The Mid-Career GPS Newsletter, a free, twice-weekly career and leadership resource for mid-career professionals.
Connect with John on LinkedIn here.
Get John's New Mid-Career Journal on Amazon here.
Follow John on Instagram @johnneralcoaching.
Subscribe to John's YouTube Channel here.
Cait Donovan’s favorite emotion is resentment. Her resentment fuels every decision she makes to help keep her life and career balanced while it's continuously changing.
Many mid-career professionals experience burnout, especially those in the “sandwich generation” who are raising their families while taking care of their aging parents.
In this episode, Cait and John sit down to talk about the differences between stress and burnout, why burnout is caused by self-neglect, how boundaries make you more generous, and Cait shares some tips to help you deal with burnout so you can take better care of yourself.
Connect with Cait Donovan – Website | FRIED – The Burnout Podcast | Book
Key Topics & Time Stamps:
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· Introduction (0:05)
· Meet Cait Donovan (4:27)
· What is Burnout? (9:47)
· Why Cait Does Burnout Work (11:27)
· Burnout & Self-Neglect (13:17)
· Bouncebackability and Your Health (18:29)
· Difference Between Stress & Burnout (21:42)
· The Power of Life Pruning (24:37)
· Boundaries Make You More Generous (27:12)
· Tips for Dealing with Burnout (30:37)
· Look for the Resentment (34:37)
· Cait’s Advice to Help You Build Your Mid-Career GPS (39:12)
· Connect with Cait (40:40)
List of Resources:
- 26 Sentence Starter to Help You Answer Any Interview Question by John Neral
- Your Mid-Career GPS – Four Steps to Figuring Out What’s Next by John Neral
- SHOW UP - Six Strategies to Lead a More Energetic and Impactful Career by John Neral
Calls to Action:
· Get your free Mid-Career
Thank you for listening to The Mid-Career GPS Podcast.
Please leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts here.
Visit https://johnneral.com/resources to get The Mid-Career Job Search Jumpstart and join The Mid-Career GPS Membership Community.
Visit https://johnneral.com to join The Mid-Career GPS Newsletter, a free, twice-weekly career and leadership resource for mid-career professionals.
Connect with John on LinkedIn here.
Get John's New Mid-Career Journal on Amazon here.
Follow John on Instagram @johnneralcoaching.
Subscribe to John's YouTube Channel here.
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126: From the Boston Celtics to Harvard to Business Owner - Lessons in Having a Bridge Job with Becca Carnahan
Everyone wants to find their career sweet spot. This happens after much experience, reflection, and conversations to find the best fit for you professionally. Many mid-career professionals wonder how to strategically position themselves in the marketplace so they can find that job they love.
Today, you will meet Becca Carnahan. Becca Carnahan is a career coach, author, and mom of two. As a career coach and CEO of Next Chapter Careers, Becca specializes in helping mid-career parents land fulfilling jobs they love without giving up the flexibility they need. Before launching her coaching business, Becca trained as a career coach at Harvard Business School and has 14 years of experience in the career and professional development field. She also previously worked for the Boston Celtics and has published two bestselling children’s books and a career development book, When Mommy Grows Up.
In this episode, you will learn the benefits of a bridge role in your career and how that bridge role can help you get clear about what you want to do. Plus, Becca and I will talk about how to address a gap on your resume and help you uncover your career sweet spot.
Connect with Becca Carnahan – Website | LinkedIn | Instagram
Key Topics & Time Stamps:
· Introduction (0:06)
· Meet Becca Carnahan (4:35)
· Working for the Boston Celtics (7:15)
· Benefits of a Bridge Role (11:25)
· Uncovering Your Career Sweet Spot (16:47)
· Pain Points for Mid-Career Parents (19:05)
· Address a Gap on Your Resume (25:05)
· What Do You Really Want for Your Next Job? (27:00)
· Becca’s Goal (28:44)
· Becca’s Advice to Help You Build Your Mid-Career GPS (30:55)
· Connect with Becca Carnahan (32:05)
List of Resources:
· Your Mid-Career GPS – Four Steps to Figuring Out What’s Next by John Neral
Thank you for listening to The Mid-Career GPS Podcast.
Please leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts here.
Visit https://johnneral.com/resources to get The Mid-Career Job Search Jumpstart and join The Mid-Career GPS Membership Community.
Visit https://johnneral.com to join The Mid-Career GPS Newsletter, a free, twice-weekly career and leadership resource for mid-career professionals.
Connect with John on LinkedIn here.
Get John's New Mid-Career Journal on Amazon here.
Follow John on Instagram @johnneralcoaching.
Subscribe to John's YouTube Channel here.
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128: Why Work-Life Balance is a Myth with Maryann Lombardi
Maryann Lombardi is a business coach who helps women and nonbinary does take bold action to build a profitable business that aligns with the life they want to live. She has spent the past 25 years working with cities, organizations, and entrepreneurs, building policies, programs and resources to grow the creative workforce and help entrepreneurs thrive.
In this episode, John and Maryanne get on the mic to talk about:
· Why all mid-career professionals must lean into their agency (choice)
· Why setting boundaries is essential to your career success
· Why work-life balance is a myth
· The difference between choice and obligation
· And why taking care of yourself needs to stop being an after-thought.
Connect with Maryann Lombardi: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram
Key Topics & Time Stamps:
· · Introduction (0:00)
· Meet Maryann Lombardi (4:30)
· Desire to Be Free (5:20)
· Defining Your Agency (7:35)
· Boundary – No Phones in the Bathroom (9:45)
· Creating Boundaries in Your Career (13:00)
· Why Work-Life Balance Is a Myth (16:00)
· Choice vs. Obligation (21:20)
· Taking Care of Yourself as an After-Thought (24:30)
· Finding Your Purpose (27:05)
· How We Take Action (29:30)
· Advice to Help You Build Your Mid-Career GPS (33:15)
· Connect with Maryann Lombardi (34:45)
List of Resources:
· 26 Sentence Starter to Answer Any Interview Questio
Thank you for listening to The Mid-Career GPS Podcast.
Please leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts here.
Visit https://johnneral.com/resources to get The Mid-Career Job Search Jumpstart and join The Mid-Career GPS Membership Community.
Visit https://johnneral.com to join The Mid-Career GPS Newsletter, a free, twice-weekly career and leadership resource for mid-career professionals.
Connect with John on LinkedIn here.
Get John's New Mid-Career Journal on Amazon here.
Follow John on Instagram @johnneralcoaching.
Subscribe to John's YouTube Channel here.
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