
Making the Invisible Work Count
03/26/25 • 26 min
Some work is easy to measure—deadlines met, projects delivered, goals achieved. But what about the work that holds everything together?
In this episode, Indra and Amanda discuss their journey of recognizing Glue Work—the often invisible tasks that keep teams functioning but rarely get acknowledged. They share how naming this work was a crucial first step and explore strategies to make it visible, valued, and a recognized part of career growth.
This is just the beginning of a much bigger conversation—because no one should have to choose between doing the work that keeps teams thriving and getting ahead in their career.
Helpful Links
- For more about the Glue Work Framework, including upcoming webinars: www.thegluework.com
- Indra's latest blog post about the Glue Work Framework: https://medium.com/@indrapendence/making-the-invisible-work-count-1f7dcb9f794c
- The Messy Middle Matters Glossary: www.themessymiddlematters.com/glossary
- Feedback for Indra & Amanda: www.themessymiddlematters.com/feedback
Some work is easy to measure—deadlines met, projects delivered, goals achieved. But what about the work that holds everything together?
In this episode, Indra and Amanda discuss their journey of recognizing Glue Work—the often invisible tasks that keep teams functioning but rarely get acknowledged. They share how naming this work was a crucial first step and explore strategies to make it visible, valued, and a recognized part of career growth.
This is just the beginning of a much bigger conversation—because no one should have to choose between doing the work that keeps teams thriving and getting ahead in their career.
Helpful Links
- For more about the Glue Work Framework, including upcoming webinars: www.thegluework.com
- Indra's latest blog post about the Glue Work Framework: https://medium.com/@indrapendence/making-the-invisible-work-count-1f7dcb9f794c
- The Messy Middle Matters Glossary: www.themessymiddlematters.com/glossary
- Feedback for Indra & Amanda: www.themessymiddlematters.com/feedback
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Useful Links
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- Brené Brown’s talk featuring Teddy Roosevelt’s Man In the Arena quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JXOnFOXQk
- The Messy Middle Matters Glossary: www.themessymiddlematters.com/glossary
- Feedback for The Messy Middle Matters: www.themessymiddlematters.com/feedback
The Messy Middle Matters - Making the Invisible Work Count
Transcript
I'm Indra,
Amanda Jane Lee: and I'm Amanda,
Indra Klavinsand we'd like to welcome you to the messy middle matters. Hi, Amanda. How are you today? I'm good. How are you Indra? Good. Today we're going to talk about one of our favorite things, talking about the invisible work, and how the things that people take care of that you don't actually realize in the workplace,
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