
We need to talk about the Machine | with Lizzie O'Shea & Ben Eltham
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05/09/20 • 48 min
Ep 11: In which I have an in-depth chat about the Government’s response to the Coronavirus pandemic, the CovidSafe tracing App, the economic bailout and more, with human/digital-rights lawyer Lizzie O’Shea and journalist Ben Eltham
This is the podcast companion to our latest Honest Government Ad - The Machine. If you haven't seen the video, you can watch it here.
This episode is also available in video form on our Youtube channel, you can watch it here.
You can follow Lizzie O'Shay on twitter here: @Lizzie_OShea
You can follow Ben Eltham on twitter here: @BenEltham
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Chapters
0:00 - Welcome to the Juice Media Podcast
0:10 - HGA - The Machine
1:24 - Introducing our guests
3:37 - The Australian Response
6:16 - The COVID Safe App
13:15 - App Skepticism
16:40 - App as Security Theatre
19:41 - The Stimulus
23:50 - Groups excluded from the stimulus
29:00 - Modern Monetary Theory
35:51 - Class and COVID
38:14 - More Curves to Flatten?
39:37 - Wrap-up Headlines
40:06 - Digital Rights
43:10 - Relaxing Restrictions
44:29 - Austerity Redux
47:37 - Outro
Ep 11: In which I have an in-depth chat about the Government’s response to the Coronavirus pandemic, the CovidSafe tracing App, the economic bailout and more, with human/digital-rights lawyer Lizzie O’Shea and journalist Ben Eltham
This is the podcast companion to our latest Honest Government Ad - The Machine. If you haven't seen the video, you can watch it here.
This episode is also available in video form on our Youtube channel, you can watch it here.
You can follow Lizzie O'Shay on twitter here: @Lizzie_OShea
You can follow Ben Eltham on twitter here: @BenEltham
If you enjoyed this podcast, subscribe and please recommend it to others!
You can support our work in these ways
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Chapters
0:00 - Welcome to the Juice Media Podcast
0:10 - HGA - The Machine
1:24 - Introducing our guests
3:37 - The Australian Response
6:16 - The COVID Safe App
13:15 - App Skepticism
16:40 - App as Security Theatre
19:41 - The Stimulus
23:50 - Groups excluded from the stimulus
29:00 - Modern Monetary Theory
35:51 - Class and COVID
38:14 - More Curves to Flatten?
39:37 - Wrap-up Headlines
40:06 - Digital Rights
43:10 - Relaxing Restrictions
44:29 - Austerity Redux
47:37 - Outro
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Ep 10: In which I speak with Dr Norman Swan, presenter of ABC's Health Report and co-host of Coronacast, about the latest Covid-19 situation in Australia, our Government's response, school closures, potential treatments, and what we need to do right now to avoid Italy's nightmare.
This is the podcast companion to the latest Honest Government Ad about the COVID-19 virus. If you haven't seen the video, you can watch it here.
You can follow Doctor Norman Swan on twitter here: @NormanSwan
Make sure to tune in to Norman Swan and Tegan Taylor's podcast: ABC's Coronacast. Or subscribe to it on Apple Podcasts.
Please consult your state, regional, and national government advisory pages on COVID-19.
Music featured in this podcast courtesy of Tom Day
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We need to talk about the Machine | with Naomi Klein
Ep 12: In which I have an epic chat with award-winning author Naomi Klein about the lessons we're learning during this historic period, the decisions we need to make before the Machine is turned back on, the coming US election, and much more
This is the podcast companion to our latest Honest Government Ad - The Machine. If you haven't seen the video, you can watch it here.
This podcast is also available as a video - you can watch it here on our YouTube channel.
You can follow Naomi Klein here: @NaomiAKlein
Naomi's books and work: NaomiKlein.org
The climate justice foundation co-founded by Naomi Klein: The Leap
And here's the article I mentioned by Mehdi Hasan in The Intercept about the deal between Bernie's and Biden's campaigns.
Music featured in this podcast courtesy of Tom Day
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