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The Hidden Power - Is God the Biosphere? - 2 - The Power of Nature

Is God the Biosphere? - 2 - The Power of Nature

04/30/22 • 30 min

The Hidden Power

We left off at the end of the last episode wondering what might make the Biosphere a compelling object for our attention; this in the context of the all-too-human reality of our challenges - the tragedy of the commons, the addiction system, the psychological imperative of avoidance.


In listening back over this episode, I'm reminded of two things: one, Edmund in King Lear - "Thou, Nature, art my Goddess!" And the other, Fidel Castro: if he was to go through the revolution again, he said, he would select just twelve highly committed comrades - echoing, no doubt, the twelve disciples of Christian mythology.


In this episode we start to feel our way into our relationship with the Biosphere. In particular Ed takes a cue from Lynne White, who argued in the 1960's that Western religion was a root cause of environmental degradation, but - controversial! - a religious way of thinking might be the way out.


Talking Points -


Context: the Tragedy of the Commons, the Addiction System, Avoidance etc


We are an emergent property: nature is an absolute, there's no escape


But the relationship has broken down. How can we restore it?


Lynne White and Environmental Ethics, Human Ecology and Beliefs


What is religion?


Was there a good idea behind Christianity?


Earth Mother as a mind-set


Purpose and fly-fishing on the Danube


Nature as a hedonistic giver


Biophilic design


What should we give to nature? The two way relationship


Biomes


Purpose and change in organisations


Links


Article on Lynne White in Nature:

https://ecoevocommunity.nature.com/posts/14041-the-long-reach-of-lynn-white-jr-s-the-historical-roots-of-our-ecologic-crisis


Original (pdf):

https://www.cmu.ca/faculty/gmatties/lynnwhiterootsofcrisis.pdf


Jesus - a Buddhist Monk - YouTube/ BBC

https://youtu.be/FsN4zE2yilo


Kindness is the opposite of stress (Dr. David R. Hamilton)

https://drdavidhamilton.com/kindness-is-the-opposite-of-stress/


And podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/a-scientists-case-for-woo-woo/id1081584611?i=1000548804097-


Biophilic design -


Wikipedia -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophilic_design


Video 8 mins- sound cuts out between 0:45 and 2:05, but still interesting:

https://youtu.be/MJ6fbYz-x04


Fly-fishing on the Danube (BBC):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0015qj3/earths-great-rivers-ii-series-1-2-danube


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We left off at the end of the last episode wondering what might make the Biosphere a compelling object for our attention; this in the context of the all-too-human reality of our challenges - the tragedy of the commons, the addiction system, the psychological imperative of avoidance.


In listening back over this episode, I'm reminded of two things: one, Edmund in King Lear - "Thou, Nature, art my Goddess!" And the other, Fidel Castro: if he was to go through the revolution again, he said, he would select just twelve highly committed comrades - echoing, no doubt, the twelve disciples of Christian mythology.


In this episode we start to feel our way into our relationship with the Biosphere. In particular Ed takes a cue from Lynne White, who argued in the 1960's that Western religion was a root cause of environmental degradation, but - controversial! - a religious way of thinking might be the way out.


Talking Points -


Context: the Tragedy of the Commons, the Addiction System, Avoidance etc


We are an emergent property: nature is an absolute, there's no escape


But the relationship has broken down. How can we restore it?


Lynne White and Environmental Ethics, Human Ecology and Beliefs


What is religion?


Was there a good idea behind Christianity?


Earth Mother as a mind-set


Purpose and fly-fishing on the Danube


Nature as a hedonistic giver


Biophilic design


What should we give to nature? The two way relationship


Biomes


Purpose and change in organisations


Links


Article on Lynne White in Nature:

https://ecoevocommunity.nature.com/posts/14041-the-long-reach-of-lynn-white-jr-s-the-historical-roots-of-our-ecologic-crisis


Original (pdf):

https://www.cmu.ca/faculty/gmatties/lynnwhiterootsofcrisis.pdf


Jesus - a Buddhist Monk - YouTube/ BBC

https://youtu.be/FsN4zE2yilo


Kindness is the opposite of stress (Dr. David R. Hamilton)

https://drdavidhamilton.com/kindness-is-the-opposite-of-stress/


And podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/a-scientists-case-for-woo-woo/id1081584611?i=1000548804097-


Biophilic design -


Wikipedia -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophilic_design


Video 8 mins- sound cuts out between 0:45 and 2:05, but still interesting:

https://youtu.be/MJ6fbYz-x04


Fly-fishing on the Danube (BBC):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0015qj3/earths-great-rivers-ii-series-1-2-danube


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Previous Episode

undefined - Is God the Biosphere? - 1 - Avoidance And The Addiction System

Is God the Biosphere? - 1 - Avoidance And The Addiction System

When we finished series 2 - Preflight Checklist - one thing was clear, any governance for Spaceship Earth going forward must put the Biosphere at the centre. Governance models from households, up through companies and countries, to international bodies must include the Biosphere as their central partner.


So far, perhaps, so obvious. We know we need to act, and in many cases, we know what we need to do. But it's not happening. We just can't seem to muster sufficient focus.


In Series 3 - Is God the Biosphere? - we interrogate this state of play.


In this episode we introduce the background and take a look a the systemic straight-jackets that contain us - politically, economically, psychologically - in a kind of trap that makes it almost impossible to avoid feeding the beast. But this is not doom and gloom, not at all. As we constantly reiterate, Change Is Possible - this is our purpose. And there can be no effective change without a frank assessment of reality, so this is where we start.


And then. As the series progresses, we will explore the tranquil jungles of possibility, armed with the question:


What, exactly, would make the Biosphere a compelling object for our attention?


Talking Points:


The attractions of Systems Thinking, and what it is


The challenge - Biodiversity Revisited


Urgency of IPCC report: what does Systems Thinking have to contribute?


Why has the biosphere not proved a compelling object for our attention?


1 - The Tragedy of The Commons: shortsightedness


2 - The Global Addiction System: The monetary system, and the Technosphere


3 - Avoidance: The doom bar, the scale of the challenge, the vast constituency of the very rich, the fantasies


Links:


Biodiversity Revisited:


https://luchoffmanninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/biodiversity-revisited-research-agenda-2020.pdf


IPCC Summary - (MIT Technology Review)


https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/04/1048832/un-climate-report-carbon-removal-is-now-essential/?truid=&utm_source=the_download&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the_download.unpaid.engagement&utm_term=&utm_content=04-05-2022&mc_cid=1ab39c4971&mc_eid=24fa1486a0


Original Peter Haff article describing the Technosphere - Technology as a Geological Phenomenon: Implications for Human Well-Being:


https://pne.people.si.umich.edu/PDF/Haff%202013%20Technology%20as%20a%20Geological%20Phenomenon.pdf


Epic sweep of monetary system (book review):


https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-financial-system-is-supposed-to-serve-the-economy--not-harm-it/2019/12/26/59c26028-1d0c-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html


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Next Episode

undefined - Is God the Biosphere? - 3 - The Nature and Meaning of God

Is God the Biosphere? - 3 - The Nature and Meaning of God

What are we talking about, when we talk about God? There's no doubt that something has been lost with the pervasive decline of religion in the modern world. Society is fractured. We lack a shared framework. We're tired of trying to work everything out. It's easier just to avoid thinking at all.


Which is in some ways the point of religion - to avoid having to reinvent the wheel when it comes to purpose and morality. In its absence, we are adrift.


Here at the Hidden Power Podcast one thing has been clear all along: we need to put the Biosphere at the centre of our governance models, and as Lynne White proposed over Fifty years ago - religion may be the key. What is a governance model, if not the prioritising of what is important?


In this episode, Ed sets out various ideas about God, laying them against the Biosphere like a series of well-formed suits.


Talking points:


Context of this episode: nature in its maternal aspect


What are we talking about when we talk about God


Some theologies - Scott Littleton, Monotheism, Carl Jung


Worship is for the Worshipper


Gods as forces of nature, as the highest thing


Explanation - God vs Science


God as unifying moral compass


The symbol of human value


Spirit - team spirit


Faith - God as purpose, God as love


Accountability - God, People


Communication - the golden rule and the biosphere


God the fixer and the prime minister of Australia


Deism vs Pantheism


What is God? Why can't He be the biosphere?


Links


Erasmus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus#The_first_translation


Scott Littleton on God

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deity


Carl Jung

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung


read by Alan Watts, shortly after Jung's passing in 1961 (YouTube)

https://youtu.be/15pjQRA80bs


Accountability buddies (NY Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/well/live/habits-health.html


A workable version of pantheism (podcast):

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7w2IJE332ztKAnglGjxohf?si=iFn5qW9eQO68jr-IC150VA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A6NOJ6IkTb2GWMj1RpmtnxP


Water and God (The Compass - podcast)

https://www.airr.io/episode/605aae14439f559d6a5c52f0


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