
The Hidden Power
Ed Straw and Philip Tottenham
Why doesn’t government work?
Is it the politicians, the civil servants, the political parties?
Or is it the system in which they all operate?
The Hidden Power goes behind the sporting spectacle of modern politicking to find the real villain.
This series of six podcasts, broadcast weekly from October 10th, provides both critique and answers.
Good government is entirely possible - but not in its current guise.
Hosted by Ed Straw, former chair of Demos - the cross-party think-tank on democracy, and producer Philip Tottenham.
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Special Episode: The Doomed Career of Dominic
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11/21/20 • 28 min
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02/13/21 • 31 min
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Sovereignty - we've heard a lot in the UK about both sovereignty, and "taking back control" - but this taking back of control in the context of leaving the EU has so far barely extended to us as citizens. Why and how is the current UK system so paternalistic? What are the roots of the widespread and long-standing political apathy in the UK? What alternative models can we look to for inspiration?
In this episode we examine how the UK's First Past The Post system creates, not least in Boris Johnson, but also Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher, rulers that are effectively sovereign monarchs, and a citizenry of disempowered subject-consumers. And we explore what it would take for us to assert our sovereignty more effectively.
Talking points:
- The planet is ideally sovereign, but to be practical it's people who are doing the doing
- Who actually exercises power in the UK?
- Centralisation leads to bureaucracy leads to powerlessness
- The Welfare System as a case in point
- Think Tanks vs. Thinking Tanks
- People are perfectly capable, regardless of background
- Switzerland's consensual democracy as exemplar
- Fragmentation of the UK as an opportunity for this
- Hangover of Empire in the current administration
- Challenges to active participation
- Leadership model in Amazon
- Scientific Method, falsification and Karl Popper
Bonus Links:
Sovereignty boffin and Brexit campaigner Claire Fox celebrates the engaging effect that the UK's leaving the EU has had on democratic participation in the UK, and that this is only the beginning - neatly illustrating that for some, Brexit is a gift that keeps on giving, even if for others it is a night - long, dark, damp, and cold - with no promise of morning. Brrr.
Pioneering paediatrician and psychotherapist of family systems D.W. Winnicott's 1949 essay exploring the question of maturity in individuals and society, strongly anticipating themes of systems thinking.
From the In Our Time History Archive - now pieces of history in themselves:
Long history of psychoanalysis and democracy (2002)
Thoughts on the Nation State (1999) - prescient and rather Brexity in retrospect.
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Check 21 - Governments - Tax
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07/17/21 • 35 min
Check 21 - Governments - Tax: Too much is never enough
Everyone pays their taxes.
The deceptive simplicity of this principle belies the fact that, obviously enough, not everyone pays their taxes - quite the contrary, and the leaders of the G7 group of the world's richest nations are attempting to address this by imposing a global corporation tax of 15%. Whether this is enforceable remains to be seen. As things stand the global monetary system is set up in such a way that, on the one hand, nations are in a race to the bottom on tax costs to make their countries attractive to multi-nationals, under the delusion that such winning such a competition will benefit them and not harm them; and on the other, their funds are secreted through tax havens to evade contributing to the various infrastructures they benefit from. So instead - these costs fall to us, the citizens.
But if we step back from the whole issue of Making The Big Guys Pay - do we need to pay taxes at all? What does this practice really mean to us, as citizens? How might it become more meaningful?
In this episode we place these questions in three key contexts - the citizen, the national economy, and our bio-physical world - the biosphere.
Talking points:
Why do we pay taxes?
"Rent", surplus and the common good
The tax planning industry: not bad people, but in a bad system
It's about fairness - why are we paying tax and not vast corporations?
Nailing down the wealth extractors, rampant individualism, and the fault-lines
Global taxation vs global tax competition: The G7
National taxation vs local taxation: efficiency
Centralisation, opacity and local power
Transparency and accountability - Sweden’s public tax returns
The UK’s hand-maiden economy
Deadweight taxes - thinking back to Adam Smith
A society of rent-seekers vs a society of wealth-creators
Efficiencies in tax expenditures: hypothecated taxes, mutual insurances
Compassionate communities and cost savings
Carbon taxation is a muddle
End-to-end producer responsibility vs the planet as an economic “externality”
Links:
Interview with Fred Harrison (audio interview, 30 min):
Nicholas Shaxson on Britains Second Empire (...of tax-havens - article):
https://taxjustice.net/2019/09/29/tax-havens-britains-second-empire/
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Check 5 - Biosphere and People: Diversity
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03/06/21 • 24 min
All lifestyles are accepted – within the constraint of not harming others or the biosphere.
Rather than restate what we have been hearing, our focus here is on the logic of diversity from a governance standpoint - why blind-spots are self-destructive and the embrace of diversity is so enriching.
Talking points:
- Pluralism and truth
- Neoliberalism and consumerist monocultures
- Roots of logic of diversity in need for resilience
- Tribal societies and settled societies
- Diversity of capitalist model - Co-ops and Quakers
- Global monetary system as de facto governor
- Unity in diversity - not liking someone is less important than burning to death
- It's a value - the richness of pluralist societies
- Leadership, certainty and diversity of perspectives
- Humility: disconfirmation of beliefs as the root of all wisdom
- Diversity in forms of feedback (language, media etc - vs truth as such)
- Monoculture in Chinese politics centred on fear of the leader = pandemic
- ...and culture of target-setting
- Liberty, Equality, Fraternity - and Swiss National Service
- ...as a way of escaping our media bubbles
- ...and developing network of consensus on eg. climate action
- Listening to people you don't like
Pluralism as a political philosophy
Ibn Khaldun - Berbers and the Maghreb (14th C! Not 10th;)
Successful prison experiment in Norway
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Check 10 - 4th Separation of Powers - Feedback
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04/10/21 • 35 min
"A fourth separation of powers shall be incorporated in every system of government for the independent feedback of results through a Resulture or Feedback Branch of Government."
You might imagine that for all the debate at the heart of government, there might be some function to check up on the outcomes of these debates. And in some cases there is. In many, even in most cases - nothing. Maybe a profit and loss account to show value for money - but with regards to the actual purpose of all the laws and policies and programmes, answering the question of whether they have achieved their aims - there is no structure in place to make sure this happens, and so mostly they become atrophy and waste, pointlessly clogging up the system and pointlessly exhausting tax-payer's money.
Would a business survive these conditions?
In this episode we start with Montesquieu's idea of checks and balances behind the separation of powers, explore its reality in the UK's political system, and think about what effective feedback might mean for this system.
Talking points:
The Separation of powers from Montesquieu
The centralised nature of these powers and opportunities to respond
Systems Thinking, Cybernetics: responding to reality
The political class - unaccountable and uninformed
Wastage
Business as a model for government and its limits
Feedback on Social Purpose
Myths and perceived credibility about the centre
Broadband now and the 1984 privatisation of BT
Cybernetic feedback as non-political: Something just happens.
Law-making - spectacle vs value
Messianic transformation vs gradual improvement
Diversity of perspective, Design Authorities and purpose - safety, reliability and performance
Failure enquiries - no politics, no blaming and the origins in the Victorian rail system
...and the Global Financial Crisis
A mechanism to take feedback decisions out of politics
The contradiction at the heart of politics
Existing feedback institutions, their limits and potential
Abandonment powers for laws that don't work
The cost would be a fraction of the benefit
The building of a body of knowledge about specific circumstances
Links:
The god-like power of the feedback loop (1 hr BBC 4 film of Jim Al Khalili on The Secret Life of Chaos):
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv1j0n
Mathematics, complex systems and small changes (5 minute clip from above):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0060b2c
On the separation of powers: origins in Montesquieu and Aristotle:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers
In Our Time - Montesquieu (podcast - 50 mins)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b5qnfx
List of supreme audit institutions :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_audit_institution
UK’s National Audit Office:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Audit_Office_(United_Kingdom)
Reading List:
Schumpeter, Joseph (1976) Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy, George Allen and Unwin
Drucker, Peter (Number 14, Winter 1969) The Sickness of Government, The Public Interest
Friedman, Mark (2005) Trying Hard Is Not Good Enough: How to Produce Measurable Improvements for Customers and Communities, Fiscal Policy Studies Institute
Straw, E. 2014. Stand & Deliver: A Design for Successful Government. London: Treaty for Government.
Fazey, I. Schäpke, N., Caniglia, G., Patterson, J., Hultman, J., Van Mierlo, B., Säwe F., et al. 2018. Ten essentials for action-oriented and second order energy transitions, transformations and climate change research. Energy Research & Social Science 40: 54–70.
Schwartz, D. 2017. The Last Man Who Knew Everything: The Life and Times of Enrico Fermi, Father of the Nuclear Age. New York: Basic Books.
Furubo, Jan-Eric and Nicoletta Stame, eds. 2018. The Evaluation Enterprise: A Critical View. Aldershot: Routledge.
Guilfoyle, Simon. 2016. Kittens Are Evil: Little Heresies in Public Policy. Axminster: Triarchy Press.
Nyhan, B. and J. Re...

Is God the Biosphere? - 6 - Sense-Making
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06/11/22 • 32 min
Philosophy, famously, will not get the washing up done. And it will not fix the crises of climate and biodiversity. So what can I do? An individual amongst Billions?
In economics, a basic unit is - The Household. And while economics tracks the flows of goods and services, it is striking that both goods and services require energy and other resources. Therefore The Household is an important unit to think about in terms of how we metabolise - exhaust and pollute - the planet.
Confronted with countries and large companies, we all have recourse to wringing our hands - but the Household is a strikingly accessible unit for pretty much everyone.
So - having surveyed, in Series 1, Proof of Concept, just how effective Systems Thinking can be; having rehearsed in Series 2 Preflight Checklist the principles that would see us through the climate and biodiversity crises; having explored in Series 3 - Is God the Biosphere? - how making the Biosphere a central partner in our governance systems requires us to rethink our religious demeanour - what next?
Given our relative entrapment in what are in many ways systems of extraction and poisoning, what levers might be available to a Household to minimise harm while maximising the best life has to offer?
This episode is a call to action to all our listeners -
- Can you articulate your household constitution?
- Can you produce a suitable systems map of the flow of goods, services and ideas passing under your roof?
Send your household constitutions and household systems maps to [email protected] or tweet a link to Ed @EdAStraw - we are v excited to see what people have to show, and will set up a Google Doc to exhibit any responses.
Talking points:
Model of change in the 1850's
Convening as accessible - Systems convening event SCIO - t
Our innate Systems Sensibility, governance as adequate development and mental health
Religion, science, commerce, a moral code - and consumer power
The migration from past state to future state - in increments
awareness beyond the bin
The power of collective action - The Preston Model
https://www.uclan.ac.uk/articles/research/preston-model-community-wealth-building
https://cles.org.uk/publications/how-we-built-community-wealth-in-preston-achievements-and-lessons/
Family constitutions: some relevant points -
News media:
Preferential Lobbying (articles)
voting
Proportional Representation (podcast)
Ed @EdAStraw
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Is God the Biosphere? - 3 - The Nature and Meaning of God
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05/07/22 • 25 min
What are we talking about, when we talk about God? There's no doubt that something has been lost with the pervasive decline of religion in the modern world. Society is fractured. We lack a shared framework. We're tired of trying to work everything out. It's easier just to avoid thinking at all.
Which is in some ways the point of religion - to avoid having to reinvent the wheel when it comes to purpose and morality. In its absence, we are adrift.
Here at the Hidden Power Podcast one thing has been clear all along: we need to put the Biosphere at the centre of our governance models, and as Lynne White proposed over Fifty years ago - religion may be the key. What is a governance model, if not the prioritising of what is important?
In this episode, Ed sets out various ideas about God, laying them against the Biosphere like a series of well-formed suits.
Talking points:
Context of this episode: nature in its maternal aspect
What are we talking about when we talk about God
Some theologies - Scott Littleton, Monotheism, Carl Jung
Worship is for the Worshipper
Gods as forces of nature, as the highest thing
Explanation - God vs Science
God as unifying moral compass
The symbol of human value
Spirit - team spirit
Faith - God as purpose, God as love
Accountability - God, People
Communication - the golden rule and the biosphere
God the fixer and the prime minister of Australia
Deism vs Pantheism
What is God? Why can't He be the biosphere?
Links
Erasmus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus#The_first_translation
Scott Littleton on God
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deity
Carl Jung
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung
read by Alan Watts, shortly after Jung's passing in 1961 (YouTube)
Accountability buddies (NY Times)
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/well/live/habits-health.html
A workable version of pantheism (podcast):
Water and God (The Compass - podcast)
https://www.airr.io/episode/605aae14439f559d6a5c52f0
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Is God the Biosphere? - 4 - Rituals
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05/14/22 • 33 min
The late Ken Robinson, in one of his TED talks, tells the story of a child who was drawing with wild strokes. The teacher asked - What are you drawing? And the child replied "God". The teacher said, "But nobody knows what God looks like." And the child said, "Well. They will in a minute." Badum Tshhhh.
Last week we explored what people are talking about when the talk about gods. But for most people, this is a secondary aspect of religion - the primary aspect being the rituals. So what are rituals, and why are they so powerful?
In this episode we look at some rituals, religious, secular, useful, destructive, and start to imagine what rituals might help us to place the biosphere at the pinnacle of our aspirations.
Talking Points:
Listener Email - A moral revolution is possible
Rituals. What are they?
Ablutions, Jewish weddings, Christian signs of peace
Conscious and unconscious rituals in daily life: focus and distraction
Positioning the biosphere and political will
Rituals of nurturing and kindness
Waste is an affront to nature, not wasting feels good
Gods - conscious and unconscious
Addiction and deification
Human power - like a bull in a china shop
Possible futures
Possible rituals - the 12 step recovery process as a route out of the addiction system
When things change, we'll be happier!
Habits as the b-side of ritual - and their power
Getting past the Doom Bar - learning to love stress
Links:
Peter Oborne - the Triumph of the Political Class (review/Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2007/sep/30/politics
Water and religion ( incl Ablutions) - BBC podcast "How Water Shaped Us" -
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5NURa5GgoD7PxTzJQNrjzG?si=0hgb5f6hQkuo4Oc_XbleqA
The 12 Step Program (Wikipedia) - main points:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program
Dr Alia Crum on mindsets
Excellent paper on the subject:
And podcast on mindsets in general,( 1:04:50 - The three step process: 1 Acknowledge; 2 Welcome; 3 Utilise):
The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People (Wikipedia summary):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_7_Habits_of_Highly_Effective_People
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Special Episode - Old Tory
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06/29/24 • 36 min
"There's a class war alright," chirruped Investor Warren Buffet recently, "But it's our class making war on yours. And we're winning."
It reminded me of the Lao Tsu, where he says that the Way of Heaven is to take from those with excess, and give to those who do not have enough.
"The way of man is different," the sage quips. "He takes from those who have nothing, in order to give to those who already have too much."
When did the worm turn? When did the liberal centrist consensus become this nightmare of neo-feudalism? How did the Tories, in particular, drift from their one-nation, Compassionate Conservatism to the libertarian bandits who rarely miss an opportunity to darken our media with stirring xenophobia, and hallucinations of Getting Things Done? Was this written into economic neoliberalism from the outset?
In this episode we rehearse the history and make some observations, not least the upcoming opportunity to vote.
Talking Points:
Some context of the Centrist Consensus
How the worm turned: Brexit
Empire and Old Tory
Feudalism in Britain and Russia
The Thermocline of Truth: erosion of the middle class
The Irish answer to Neoliberalism and inequality
Will they ever learn?
Links:
Ed's Cris de Couer - Old Tory
Start the Week - Left Behind But Not Forgotten
Ireland and Neoliberalism - David Mc Williams Podcast
John Pilger - Governments and Media roles in War Propaganda | The War You Don't See - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mDuxFnn2RY
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Authorising Change at Ground Level with Julian Corner
The Hidden Power
10/24/20 • 27 min
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