
Jane Goodall on the power of hope
07/22/21 • 62 min
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Vox's Sigal Samuel talks with world-renowned primatologist Jane Goodall about what six decades of studying chimpanzees has taught her about humans. They discuss the work people can do to protect animals and the environment, and the immense power of hope.
Host: Sigal Samuel (@SigalSamuel), Senior Reporter, Vox
Guest: Jane Goodall (@JaneGoodallInst), primatologist and author
References:
- Miss Goodall and the Wild Chimpanzees (1965)
- Jane (dir. Brett Morgen; 2018)
- The Mentality of Apes by Wolfgang Köhler (1917; tr. by Ella Winter, 1925)
- Reason for Hope: A Spiritual Journey by Jane Goodall (with Phillip Berman; 2000)
- Jane Goodall Receives 2021 Templeton Prize
- The Book of Hope: A Survival Guide for Trying TImes by Jane Goodall and Douglas Abrams (Celadon; October 2021)
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- Producer: Erikk Geannikis
- Editor: Amy Drozdowska
- Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey
- VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson
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Vox's Sigal Samuel talks with world-renowned primatologist Jane Goodall about what six decades of studying chimpanzees has taught her about humans. They discuss the work people can do to protect animals and the environment, and the immense power of hope.
Host: Sigal Samuel (@SigalSamuel), Senior Reporter, Vox
Guest: Jane Goodall (@JaneGoodallInst), primatologist and author
References:
- Miss Goodall and the Wild Chimpanzees (1965)
- Jane (dir. Brett Morgen; 2018)
- The Mentality of Apes by Wolfgang Köhler (1917; tr. by Ella Winter, 1925)
- Reason for Hope: A Spiritual Journey by Jane Goodall (with Phillip Berman; 2000)
- Jane Goodall Receives 2021 Templeton Prize
- The Book of Hope: A Survival Guide for Trying TImes by Jane Goodall and Douglas Abrams (Celadon; October 2021)
Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.
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This episode was made by:
- Producer: Erikk Geannikis
- Editor: Amy Drozdowska
- Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey
- VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson
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