A Conversation With Len Necefer

12/27/18 • 50 min

In the final episode of 2018, I go back to a September conversation with climber, educator and activist, Len Necefer. Len holds a Ph.D in Engineering and Public Policy, and is founder of Natives Outdoors, an outdoor products company whose products serve to support indigenous people.
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We discuss Len's roots and identity as a Navajo, experiencing racism in college, and his love for climbing and the outdoors (among other things).
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Music by Evan Phillips:
evanphillips.bandcamp.com/album/cabin-...s-volume-one
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Links:
https://www.natives-outdoors.org/
https://www.thefirnline.com
www.evanphillips.net
https://www.patreon.com/thefirnline
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Sponsors:
www.alaskarockgym.com/
www.moosestooth.net/
www.hoardingmarmot.com/
www.behindthesuntherapeutics.com/
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Cover Photo: Gabriel Ellison-Scowcroft

Previous Episode

Wandering Writer: Chris Kalman

Growing up in the suburbs of northern Virginia, Chris Kalman was exposed to academia and team sports from a young age. But by the time he reached high school, he discovered rock climbing, and was instantly hooked. Always a deep thinker, the solitary process of combining fitness with problem solving appealed to him.
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But it wasn’t until Kalman moved out west after college, to work trail crew at Rocky Mountain National Park, that a new world of adventure and self-discovery emerged.
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Since that time, Kalman has forged an adventurous, almost Kerouac-style path thru life. This quest has taken him from the technical granite test pieces of Index, WA, to the sweeping big walls of Cochamo in southern Chile. But Chris’s search isn’t just about climbing. Rather, it’s a pursuit of self-examination, meaningful relationships with others, and a journey toward a deeper understanding of life.
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Music by Evan Phillips:
evanphillips.bandcamp.com/album/cabin-...s-volume-one
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Links:
http://www.chriskalman.com/
www.thefirnline.com
www.evanphillips.net
patreon.com/thefirnline
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Sponsors:
www.alaskarockgym.com/
www.moosestooth.net/
www.hoardingmarmot.com/
www.behindthesuntherapeutics.com/
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Cover Photo: https://www.austinsiadak.com/

Next Episode

The Life And Climbs Of Kevin Jorgeson

On today’s episode of The Firn Line, we’ll get to know professional rock climber, Kevin Jorgeson. Over a long and ever-evolving career, Jorgeson has immersed himself in the multi-dimensional craft of rock climbing. As a youth, he honed his mental and physical skills, while progressing to the top tiers of competition climbing. Later, he tested himself on classic and technical and highball bouldering problems, from Fontainebleau to The Buttermilks. And more recently, he teamed up with Tommy Caldwell to complete a visionary free climb of The Dawn Wall - which was documented in a powerful and award-winning film.
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I recently got a chance to sit down with Kevin, and talk about the importance of climbing in his life. But we also went below the surface, and talked about his motives, how his experience as a competition climber helped him succeed on the Dawn Wall, and the simple power of optimism.
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Music by Evan Phillips:
evanphillips.bandcamp.com/album/cabin-...s-volume-one
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Links:
www.kevinjorgeson.com
https://www.dawnwall-film.com/
www.thefirnline.com
www.evanphillips.net
www.patreon.com/thefirnline
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Sponsors:
www.alaskarockgym.com/
www.moosestooth.net/
www.hoardingmarmot.com/
www.behindthesuntherapeutics.com/
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Cover Photo: Kaare Iverson // www.kaareiverson.com