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The Farm Report - Episode 229: To Beef or Not to Beef: Meat Talk with Nicolette Hahn Niman

Episode 229: To Beef or Not to Beef: Meat Talk with Nicolette Hahn Niman

11/20/14 • 34 min

The Farm Report

This week on The Farm Report, host Erin Fairbanks welcomes Nicolette Hahn Niman, author of “Defending Beef: The Case for Sustainable Meat Production” to the show. Kicking off the show talking about Nicolette’s background and how she became involved with ranching cattle, she elaborates exactly why beef is in need of defending. Nicolette’s take is that for decades it has been nearly universal dogma among environmentalists and health advocates that cattle and beef are public enemy number one. She asks if the matter really so clear cut? In “Defending Beef,” Nicolette argues that cattle are not inherently bad for either the Earth or our own nutritional health. In fact, she discusses with Erin that properly managed livestock play an essential role in maintaining grassland ecosystems by functioning as surrogates for herds of wild ruminants that once covered the globe. Grass-fed, small-scale farms can and should become the basis for American food production, replacing the factory farms that harm animals and the environment. While no single book can definitively answer the thorny question of how to feed the Earth’s growing population, Nicolette explains that, whatever the world’s future food system looks like, cattle and beef can and must be part of the solution. Tune in for an interesting discussion! This program was brought to you by Whole Foods Market.


“There are many wonderful water intensive foods but that suggestion you hear over and over again that beef is some water guzzler and some outlier, that’s just not true.” [20:00]

“I think the reason why beef has been the favorite target of sensational journalism because it was the most consumed meat in the United States and considered the most desirable.” [23:00]

Nicolette Hahn Niman on The Farm Report

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This week on The Farm Report, host Erin Fairbanks welcomes Nicolette Hahn Niman, author of “Defending Beef: The Case for Sustainable Meat Production” to the show. Kicking off the show talking about Nicolette’s background and how she became involved with ranching cattle, she elaborates exactly why beef is in need of defending. Nicolette’s take is that for decades it has been nearly universal dogma among environmentalists and health advocates that cattle and beef are public enemy number one. She asks if the matter really so clear cut? In “Defending Beef,” Nicolette argues that cattle are not inherently bad for either the Earth or our own nutritional health. In fact, she discusses with Erin that properly managed livestock play an essential role in maintaining grassland ecosystems by functioning as surrogates for herds of wild ruminants that once covered the globe. Grass-fed, small-scale farms can and should become the basis for American food production, replacing the factory farms that harm animals and the environment. While no single book can definitively answer the thorny question of how to feed the Earth’s growing population, Nicolette explains that, whatever the world’s future food system looks like, cattle and beef can and must be part of the solution. Tune in for an interesting discussion! This program was brought to you by Whole Foods Market.


“There are many wonderful water intensive foods but that suggestion you hear over and over again that beef is some water guzzler and some outlier, that’s just not true.” [20:00]

“I think the reason why beef has been the favorite target of sensational journalism because it was the most consumed meat in the United States and considered the most desirable.” [23:00]

Nicolette Hahn Niman on The Farm Report

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undefined - Episode 228: The Silver Fox… Rabbit

Episode 228: The Silver Fox… Rabbit

This week on The Farm Report, host Erin Fairbanks is bringing up the subject of heritage breed rabbits with Taylor Naples, Chef de Cuisine at Craft, and Patrick Beck, owner of New England Grass Fed. New England Grass Fed is dedicated to producing the finest 100% grass fed beef, pork and silver fox rabbit with the help of their local grazing partners. Their animals are raised with respect and grown to their highest potential, while accepting the gift of animals’ lives with gratitude. Patrick specifically raises the silver fox breed of rabbit and shares with Erin the story behind this decision as well as other interesting facts about this heritage breed. Craft is just one of the many restaurants that New England Grass Fed supplies rabbit for, and Taylor explains that the product is superior in quality due to the way Patrick raises the animals. After the break, Taylor takes listeners through a step by step process of preparing the rabbit served at Craft as well as his thoughts on other preparations. Patrick shares plans for the future of the silver fox breed and the sustainable nature of harvesting rabbit. This program was brought to you by Heritage Foods USA.


“I saw rabbit as a totally understated protein absolutely absent from the line up of most chefs.” [3:50]

“They [silver foxes] are special rabbits and we are honored to have them in the hands of someone like Taylor.” [23:40]

Patrick Beck on The Farm Report

“Rabbits and mustards go together very well... it’s a more fun chicken.” [21:15]

Taylor Naples on The Farm Report

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undefined - Episode 230: NYC (Christmas) Trees

Episode 230: NYC (Christmas) Trees

This week on The Farm Report, host Erin Fairbanks is getting in the spirit of the holidays! Talking to Louis DeLucia of NYC Trees she gets the scoop all on their Christmas tree ordering and delivery service that boasts local trees. Native New Yorkers, business partners, and brothers, Harold and Louis DeLucia are also experts in providing access to farm-fresh fruits, vegetables, and fresh-cut flowers from their family farm as well as neighboring family farms to various areas across the city. Through these relationships, Louis explains that they saw an opportunity to support neighboring Christmas tree farms, by providing their city customers with homegrown Fraser Firs. After seeing the numerous tree stalls that pop up during the holidays stocked with second-grade trees usually farmed in Canada or the Carolinas, the brothers recognized the need for local, quality Christmas trees at an affordable price. NYC Trees eliminates the hassle of Christmas tree shopping in New York City. Louis goes on to chat with Erin about the importance of sourcing local business, maintaining the trees’ farmland, and how NYC Trees is giving back this holiday season. Tune in for a seasonally appropriate and important episode! This program was brought to you by Heritage Foods USA.


“It was my brother’s vision and I was against it, I didn’t see it going anywhere. It has really mushroomed and... people appreciate the convenience and the service to get the Christmas tree up three or four flights of stairs in the service elevator on time.” [5:58]

“So you want a tree that smells good, that looks full, and has a great needle retention, and just by coincidence, most of the local farms raise Fraser Firs in New Jersey.” [6:56]

Louis DeLucia on The Farm Report

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