
#270 - Understanding Our Pedagogical Beliefs: From EdTech to PedTech
07/20/23 • 54 min
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Karine and Rose meet this week to discuss Ofsted ratings, how AI can transform teachers' day-to-day tasks, and interview friend and colleague Dr Fiona Aubrey Smith on the recent publication of her book: From EdTech to PedTech: Changing the Way We Think About Digital Technology. Aimed at teachers and leaders looking to create greater impact on teaching and learning through the use of digital technology in schools, From EdTech to PedTech translates research on the effective integration of digital technology in education into relevant, accessible, and practical guidance for teachers and school leaders. This much-needed handbook bridges the gap between knowing ‘what works’ and knowing how to make it work for you and your learners.
Ofsted's rating can be transformative and catastrophic. Given Karine's experience as a headteacher, what does she think of its one-word proclamations? Also under discussion is the DfE's call for submission of evidence regarding the opportunities and risks of AI in education, and their recently published report on generative AI, available to view below.
Material discussed in this episode includes:
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- From EdTech to PedTech: Changing the Way we Think About Digital Technology
- UK Department for Education: Generative AI in Education: Departmental Statement
- Institute for Ethical AI in Education: Final Report
- OECD: Empowering Young Children in the Digital Age
- Machine Learning & Human Intelligence
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To get the latest insights, trends and developments on AI for Education, subscribe to EVR's new fortnightly publication: The Skinny on AI for Education
Karine and Rose meet this week to discuss Ofsted ratings, how AI can transform teachers' day-to-day tasks, and interview friend and colleague Dr Fiona Aubrey Smith on the recent publication of her book: From EdTech to PedTech: Changing the Way We Think About Digital Technology. Aimed at teachers and leaders looking to create greater impact on teaching and learning through the use of digital technology in schools, From EdTech to PedTech translates research on the effective integration of digital technology in education into relevant, accessible, and practical guidance for teachers and school leaders. This much-needed handbook bridges the gap between knowing ‘what works’ and knowing how to make it work for you and your learners.
Ofsted's rating can be transformative and catastrophic. Given Karine's experience as a headteacher, what does she think of its one-word proclamations? Also under discussion is the DfE's call for submission of evidence regarding the opportunities and risks of AI in education, and their recently published report on generative AI, available to view below.
Material discussed in this episode includes:
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- From EdTech to PedTech: Changing the Way we Think About Digital Technology
- UK Department for Education: Generative AI in Education: Departmental Statement
- Institute for Ethical AI in Education: Final Report
- OECD: Empowering Young Children in the Digital Age
- Machine Learning & Human Intelligence
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To get the latest insights, trends and developments on AI for Education, subscribe to EVR's new fortnightly publication: The Skinny on AI for Education
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#269 - Creating the Conditions for Success
The fifth and final episode in the Evidence-Based EdTech miniseries produced by Professor Rose Luckin's EDUCATE Ventures Research, exploring education, research, AI and EdTech, and hosted on The Edtech Podcast
The Evidence-Based EdTech miniseries connects, combines, and highlights leading expertise and opinion from the worlds of EdTech, AI, Research, and Education, helping teachers, learners, and technology developers get to grips with ethical learning tools led by the evidence.
In our previous episode, Rose was in conversation with representatives from Make (Good) Trouble, Feminist Internet, and Soundwaves Foundation, an organisation pursuing technology to assist with deaf or hearing-impaired students in the classroom. We asked a number of questions that centred around what inclusive technology looks like to each of the guests in the room, given that they had and worked with unique perspectives, and what their thoughts were around user agency and why it was so vital EdTech developers be mindful of this in the creation of their products. Our last question was on what we should demand of technology that it cater to people from diverse backgrounds. Was it data, the context, access, that allowed tech to help those from diverse backgrounds?
In this episode, we’d like to extend these same thoughts on DEI and ethics outward, beyond the borders of the UK.
We'll be asking:
- Are international education ecosystems implementing their diversity, equity and inclusion any differently from that of the UK? What could be learned from them that EdTech developers and educationalists can adopt and use in the UK?
- From an international perspective, is the technology developed in the first world, but exported to the third, sensitive to the context of its use or too prescriptive? And as an additional point, has the third world reshaped its attitudes towards diversity and ethics in technology in line with what it believes the first world will find desirable or employable?
- There’s rumour of national and international standards for good evidence in EdTech coming out of some countries, with presumably varying emphasis placed on adherence to these standards by different governments and regulatory bodies. What is our guest's opinion on how robust they think regulation needs to be where EdTech evidence is concerned, and how strictly do they think such standards should be enforced when developing and using EdTech?
Our guest this week is Jane Mann, Managing Director for Cambridge Partnership for Education.
With over two decades of experience in the education sector, as Managing Director of the Cambridge Partnership for Education Jane is now focused on working with ministries of education, government agencies, NGOs, donor agencies and educational organisations to advocate for, design and implement effective programmes of education transformation. The Cambridge Partnership for Education works across the globe in curriculum and assessment design and development, creation of teaching and learning resources, professional development, stakeholder engagement and English language learning and skills.
Thank you to Cambridge Partnership for Education for sponsoring this episode, and for supporting the Evidence-Based EdTech series on the EdTech Podcast.
Next Episode

#271 - Cutting Through the Noise on AI in Education
Rose plays host to Nina Huntemann, Chief Academic Officer of Chegg, and Lord Jim Knight, in the EdTech Podcast Zoom studio this week, attempting to understand how best to cut through the white noise surrounding AI's hype, misinformation, exaggeration and marketing, and determining just how positive for education AI can be if done responsibly.
In our previous episodes on AI, Rose has been in conversation with universities from the US and the UK, examining what the role is for emerging technologies in higher education and what capacity exists to implement AI effectively. The podcast also saw a contributions from Karine George in discussing whether or not the release and widespread use of ChatGPT has actually done education a favour. Has its proliferation sparked debate about human cognition and limited understandings of AI, or initiated conversations in schools around digital transformation and strategy?
In this episode, we’d like to extend these same thoughts on AI to pedagogic effectiveness in education and academia, and how emerging technologies like AI can be incorporated into plans for companies’ commercial services.
Talking points in today's episode includes:
- The development of ethical AI in commercial enterprises and how they ensure their responsible technologies are developed
- Tensions between the wealth of AI tools available and regulation of the market and educational use of such technologies
- Assessing AI tools' effectiveness
- Cutting through the huge amount of hype, headlines, and sensationalism at the heart of the communications and marketing around AI
Material discussed in today's episode includes:
- Yes, AI could profoundly disrupt education, but maybe that's not a bad thing, article in the Guardian UK Newspaper by Professor Rose Luckin
- Chegg's Centre for Digital Learning
- The Skinny on AI for Education, EVR's newest publication featuring insights, trends and developments in the world of AI Ed
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