
The High North: Winter is Going
09/12/24 • 32 min
What if the melting Arctic ice could reshape global power dynamics? Join us as we sit down with Norway's Foreign Minister, Espen Barth Eide, to discuss the emerging significance of the Arctic region in today's geopolitical landscape. From the creation of new sea routes to the evolving strategic challenges in the Arctic, Minister Eide offers an in-depth look at the interplay between environmental change and international diplomacy. J. Alex Tarquinio, our host in The Delegates Lounge, sat down with Norway’s foreign minister during the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's 75th Anniversary Summit in Washington.
With the accession of Finland and Sweden into NATO, the Russian Federation is now the only Arctic state that’s not a member of NATO. But Moscow has more military bases within the Arctic Circle than the NATO members overall. For its part, China has declared itself a “near Arctic nation,” a claim that Norway’s foreign minister brushed aside.
Speakers:
J. Alex Tarquinio (host). @alextarquinio of @delegateslounge on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Espen Barth Eide, Norway’s Foreign Minister (guest). @EspenBarthEide of @NorwayMFA on X, formerly known as Twitter.
References:
Espen Barth Eide, during his first term as foreign minister, in the government of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, invited NATO members to the Arctic in 2013.
https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2013/05/06/the-changing-arctic-how-involved-should-nato-be/index.html
Russia's military bases inside the Arctic Circle outnumber NATO’s, according to data compiled by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) and Reuters.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ARCTIC-SECURITY/zgvobmblrpd/
The United States, Canada, and Finland announced the trilateral Icebreaker Collaboration Effort, or “ICE Pact."
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/11/biden-harris-administration-announces-new-polar-partnership-ice-pact-alongside-finland-and-canada/
For more on the sanctions, refer to the U.S. Treasury and State Department press releases.
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2546
https://www.state.gov/new-measures-to-degrade-russias-wartime-economy/
The United Nations published its latest sea-level rise report in August.
https://www.un.org/climatechange/reports/sea-level-rise
The conversation included a discussion about the influence of the Norwegian political thriller TV series set in the near future "Occupied."
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4192998/
Program Note:
The sharp-eared among you will have noted the bird calls. We received permission from the Cornell Lab of Ornithology’s Macaulay Library for the recording of the Ivory Gull, a Near Threatened Arctic bird.
Credit: Ivory Gull by Stewart D. MacDonald; Cornell Lab of Ornithology | Macaulay Library
What if the melting Arctic ice could reshape global power dynamics? Join us as we sit down with Norway's Foreign Minister, Espen Barth Eide, to discuss the emerging significance of the Arctic region in today's geopolitical landscape. From the creation of new sea routes to the evolving strategic challenges in the Arctic, Minister Eide offers an in-depth look at the interplay between environmental change and international diplomacy. J. Alex Tarquinio, our host in The Delegates Lounge, sat down with Norway’s foreign minister during the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's 75th Anniversary Summit in Washington.
With the accession of Finland and Sweden into NATO, the Russian Federation is now the only Arctic state that’s not a member of NATO. But Moscow has more military bases within the Arctic Circle than the NATO members overall. For its part, China has declared itself a “near Arctic nation,” a claim that Norway’s foreign minister brushed aside.
Speakers:
J. Alex Tarquinio (host). @alextarquinio of @delegateslounge on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Espen Barth Eide, Norway’s Foreign Minister (guest). @EspenBarthEide of @NorwayMFA on X, formerly known as Twitter.
References:
Espen Barth Eide, during his first term as foreign minister, in the government of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, invited NATO members to the Arctic in 2013.
https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2013/05/06/the-changing-arctic-how-involved-should-nato-be/index.html
Russia's military bases inside the Arctic Circle outnumber NATO’s, according to data compiled by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) and Reuters.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ARCTIC-SECURITY/zgvobmblrpd/
The United States, Canada, and Finland announced the trilateral Icebreaker Collaboration Effort, or “ICE Pact."
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/11/biden-harris-administration-announces-new-polar-partnership-ice-pact-alongside-finland-and-canada/
For more on the sanctions, refer to the U.S. Treasury and State Department press releases.
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2546
https://www.state.gov/new-measures-to-degrade-russias-wartime-economy/
The United Nations published its latest sea-level rise report in August.
https://www.un.org/climatechange/reports/sea-level-rise
The conversation included a discussion about the influence of the Norwegian political thriller TV series set in the near future "Occupied."
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4192998/
Program Note:
The sharp-eared among you will have noted the bird calls. We received permission from the Cornell Lab of Ornithology’s Macaulay Library for the recording of the Ivory Gull, a Near Threatened Arctic bird.
Credit: Ivory Gull by Stewart D. MacDonald; Cornell Lab of Ornithology | Macaulay Library
Previous Episode

NATO's Turning Point: Insights From ESTONIA, SPAIN and CZECHIA ministers
Hear directly from the defense minister of Estonia and the foreign ministers of Spain and Czechia. We caught up with these high-level ministers on the sidelines of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s 75th Anniversary Summit in Washington, D.C. this summer. Our conversation highlights the urgency for NATO allies to increase military spending and support Ukraine amidst the ongoing conflict with Russia. Delve into the significance of past NATO summits on U.S. politics and the growing security concerns in the Indo-Pacific region, showcasing the interconnectedness of global threats and the importance of transatlantic solidarity.
In this episode, we’ll explore NATO’s southern and eastern flanks in exclusive interviews that J. Alex Tarquinio, our host in The Delegates Lounge, held with Estonia’s Defense Minister Hanno Pevkur, Spain’s Foreign Minister José Manuel Albares, and Czechia’s Foreign Minister Jan Lipavský. Each of the ministers emphasized the global nature of security threats today, and how what happens in the Middle East and even as far off as the Indo-Pacific region affects the security of the Transatlantic alliance. We also spoke about the use of sanctions. This was before the new set of sanctions imposed by the United States on August 23rd on hundreds of businesses and business people to counteract what Washington describes as sanctions evasion, which we discuss in the introduction to the episode.
Speakers:
J. Alex Tarquinio (host). @alextarquinio of @delegateslounge on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Hanno Pevkur, Estonia’s Defense Minister (guest). @HPevkur of @MoD_Estonia on X, formerly known as Twitter.
José Manuel Albares, Spain’s Foreign Minister (guest). @jmalbares of @SpainMFA on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Jan Lipavský, Czechia’s Foreign Minister (guest). @JanLipavsky of @CzechMFA on X, formerly known as Twitter.
References:
The NATO Washington Summit Declaration referred to the People’s Republic of China as a “decisive enabler of Russia’s war against Ukraine” and to Ukraine’s “irreversible” path towards NATO membership.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_227678.htm
This year, NATO estimates that 23 of the 32 member states will reach the goal of spending at least 2% of their gross domestic product on defense.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_226465.htm
A few days before attending the NATO Washington Summit, Japan announced that it would work with Cambodia on a project to bolster Ukraine’s training and equipment for demining operations.
https://apnews.com/article/japan-cambodia-demining-ukraine-278a7c572b93ee3e9b4d1aa4c912a672
On August 23, the United States imposed new sanctions on around 400 companies and individuals — both inside and outside of Russia — that Washington accuses of enabling the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine by supporting Moscow’s military-industrial base.
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2546
https://www.state.gov/new-measures-to-degrade-russias-wartime-economy/
Next Episode

Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya on the Future of Belarus
While at the NATO 75th Anniversary Summit in Washington, D.C. in July we had the good fortune to cross paths with Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, the leader of the Belarusian opposition in exile. In our exclusive interview, she highlighted the moral duty of democratic nations to support both Belarus and Ukraine. Sviatlana frames this commitment as a crucial investment in global security.
We asked her how she saw the future in Belarus after Lukashenko. The conversation also brought into the light the significant role of Belarusian volunteers fighting in Ukraine and the profound risks they and their families face. Tune in for this riveting conversation on the future of Belarus and the broader battle for democracy around the world.
Speakers:
The host is J. Alex Tarquinio. @alextarquinio of @delegateslounge on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Our guest is Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya. @Tsihanouskaya on X, formerly known as Twitter.
References:
The Washington Post opinion article by Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya and former U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/07/09/nato-putin-lukashenko-pelosi-tikhanovskaya/
The Foreign Policy article about the election between Belarus and Slovenia for a seat on the United Nations Security Council by our podcast host J. Alex Tarquinio.
The Delegates Lounge - The High North: Winter is Going
Transcript
Welcome to the Delegates Lounge . Pull up a chair . I'm Alex Tarquinio , a journalist based at the United Nations here in New York City and your emcee for this podcast featuring some of the most influential minds in the world today . Settle in for some riveting tete-a-tete , available wherever you listen to podcasts . Welcome back .
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