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"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis - E2: Why AI Will Cause a Cognitive Revolution with Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg

E2: Why AI Will Cause a Cognitive Revolution with Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg

02/10/23 • 80 min

"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

00:00 Coming Up

01:00 The Cognitive Revolution

01:20 Sponsor

01:39 Intro

02:09 Nathan’s path to AI

04:27 Founding Waymark

06:56 The future of AI is just starting

10:00 AI dramatically enhances human capabilities

10:50 Why we started The Cognitive Revolution and what to expect

14:55 Which guests will appear on the show and topics that will be discussed

18:59 Being replaced by an AI host

20:42 Unpacking the future of AI with “no new breakthroughs”

32:21 What’s underhyped and overhyped

43:46 The dangers of AI

44:51 Applying AI safely

52:19 Losing faith in technology

53:38 A new AI ecology

55:14 Facebook, Google and Open AI

58:00 Upside and downside case for AI

58:18 Sam Altman’s case for AI

01:09:25 Starting an AI company

01:18:22 Closing

01:18:46 Sponsor

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale.

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The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@labenz (Nathan)

Websites:

cognitivervolution.ai

waymark.com

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

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We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

00:00 Coming Up

01:00 The Cognitive Revolution

01:20 Sponsor

01:39 Intro

02:09 Nathan’s path to AI

04:27 Founding Waymark

06:56 The future of AI is just starting

10:00 AI dramatically enhances human capabilities

10:50 Why we started The Cognitive Revolution and what to expect

14:55 Which guests will appear on the show and topics that will be discussed

18:59 Being replaced by an AI host

20:42 Unpacking the future of AI with “no new breakthroughs”

32:21 What’s underhyped and overhyped

43:46 The dangers of AI

44:51 Applying AI safely

52:19 Losing faith in technology

53:38 A new AI ecology

55:14 Facebook, Google and Open AI

58:00 Upside and downside case for AI

58:18 Sam Altman’s case for AI

01:09:25 Starting an AI company

01:18:22 Closing

01:18:46 Sponsor

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale.

RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@labenz (Nathan)

Websites:

cognitivervolution.ai

waymark.com

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

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E1: The Pixel Revolution with Playground AI 's Suhail Doshi

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

00:00 Intro

00:30: Image technology breakthroughs

00:45 The Cognitive Revolution

03:10 Intro to Suhail

03:43 Sponsor

07:04 Suhail’s path to AI

12:57 Suhail’s vision for Playground

17:58 Suhail’s cancellation on Twitter

19:06 AI artists are artists

20:25 Non-AI artists feel threatened by AI

26:47 Suhail on defensibility at AI companies

30:30 Playground’s product roadmap

33:01 Suhail on good design

35:55 Latent space

44:04 Building Playground with lessons learned from Mighty

53:55 Monitoring led to 2x improvement in the product

55:53 How people use Playground

1:03:48 AI is having it’s mobile moment

01:15:12 Finding, investing and building durable AI companies

01:22:06 Suhail’s kid’s best friends may be AI characters

01:23:20 AI religion

01:24:16 Conclusion

RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale.

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@suhail (Suhail)

@labenz (Nathan)

Websites:

playgroundai.com

mixpanel.com

waymark.com

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

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undefined - E3: The Empathy Revolution with Eugenia Kuyda of Replika

E3: The Empathy Revolution with Eugenia Kuyda of Replika

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

(01:08) Sponsor

(01:37) Introducing Eugenia

(03:25) Replika’s controversial choice to limit erotic roleplay functionality

(04:25) Eugenia's vision for Replika

(05:58) Augmented Reality is the Ultimate Modality

(07:52) Using Replika

(13:11) Profound stories about virtual assistants

(15:55) Eugenia on why Replika is more than just a painkiller or vitamin

(28:50) Replika's business model and profitability

(34:12) Users want their Replika to surprise them

(36:12) Why ChatGPT is not a conversational model

(49:26) Eugenia's prediction for the "next Iphone of personal AI"

(1:03:00) Eugenia’s AI tools/stack

(1:15:00) Eugenia comes back to discuss Erotic Roleplay controversy

(1:18:00) Replika’s first reaction to users ERP

(1: 22:00) How the product evolved from 90% scripts & retrieval models

(1:24:00) The definitive focus for Replika to stay in a PG13 zone

(1:26:00) “Normal” evolution given sci-fi depictions of AI romances

(1:30:00) Current AI ethics on sexuality

(1:37:07) Response to journalists misportrayal

(1:40:29) Sponsor

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale.

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@labenz (Nathan)

@ekuyda (Eugenia)

Websites:

cognitivervolution.ai

https://replika.ai/

RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

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