The Cloudcast
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The Cloudcast is the industry's #1 independent Cloud Computing podcast. Since 2011, co-hosts Aaron Delp & Brian Gracely interview technology and business leaders that are shaping the future of business. Topics will include Cloud Computing | AI | AGI | ChatGPT | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Serverless | DevOps | Big Data | ML | Security | Kubernetes | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS . Also available, the "Cloudcast Basics" podcast (@cloudcastbasics), for anyone new to Cloud Computing.

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Understanding & Managing Committed Cloud Spend
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02/09/22 • 34 min
Tim Banks (@elchefe, Principal Cloud Economist @duckbillgroup) talks about how public cloud providers are offering committed spend programs, and ways to best use their programs to manage cloud spending.
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SHOW NOTES:
Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’ve got a very interesting background of hands-on technical and being on the business side of things. Tell us a little bit about your background and what you focus on at Duckbill Group.
Topic 2 - Let’s start by talking about this trend of long-term cloud contracts. Why are we seeing more and more announced, and who does it seem to benefit more (cloud provider or customer)?
Topic 2a - How do companies typically size these deals? Is it some percentage of current spend forecasted forward, or some aspirational goal, or something else?
Topic 3 - When a company signs up for one of these long-term committed spend contracts, what are the mechanics of the contract? Is it just “all-you-can-eat” technology, or do they tend to include additional capabilities/services, etc?
Topic 4 - What have you found to be the behavior of companies that sign these contracts? Does it lead to more projects getting created, or more experimentation, or any other unintended consequences?
Topic 5 - At what point do companies start re-evaluating the contracts? What happens if they find themselves way below expected spending expectations?
Topic 6 - Have you seen any new behaviors from the cloud providers once they sign a contract, whereas one group (or service) is pushing hard to capture a bigger portion of the contract?
FEEDBACK?
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02/09/22 • 34 min

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Managing the Business Impact of Data Quality
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03/09/22 • 33 min
Elliot Shmukler (@eshmu, Co-Founder/CEO @anomalo_hq) and Jeremy Stanley (@jeremystan, Co-Founder/CTO) talk about how data integrity and changes can impact both technology and business decisions.
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SHOW NOTES:
- Anomalo (homepage)
- Anomalo raises 33M Series A (TechCrunch)
- Anomalo watches your data for weirdness (Forbes)
- Anomalo brings data quality platform to Snowflake (TechTarget)
Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Let’s start with brief introductions and backgrounds. Elliot & Jeremy please introduce yourselves.
Topic 2 - As mentioned you both met and worked together at Instacart. Let’s introduce the concept of data quality and integrity to those who may not be familiar. What patterns and problems did you see. Any possible horror stories you can share?
Topic 3 - Up until now, I’ve seen big data often more about finding the needle in the haystack. It’s in there somewhere, you just have to find it. But, what if it is the wrong needle?
Topic 4 - Are we also talking about data drift over time as the amount of data grows? As data is added to the pool, we may come to different conclusions. How do we know if the new conclusions are based on good data or bad data?
Topic 5 - You recently announced a partnership with Snowflake. This makes sense, why build another data lake and that of course may be a barrier of entry to some, correct? Are we reaching a point with big data and data lakes that we can have one single source of truth? I know we are in early days but how do most customers approach big data today and how do they keep the data sets up to date.
FEEDBACK?
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03/09/22 • 33 min

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Dealing with Technology Failure
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12/19/21 • 14 min
Computers break. Software has bugs. Cloud services fail. And yet we don’t deal with failures very well. Why don’t we have better Plan B’s, for both personal and business uses of cloud?
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SHOW NOTES:
- AWS US-East-1 Outage (Dec.10, 2021) - Post Mortem (AWS Blog)
- AWS US-West outage (Dec.5, 2021)
- AWS is Too Big to Fail (The Information - Corey Quinn)
- YouTubeTV loses ESPN and other Disney channels (Dec.18, 2021)
- The Tech Industry after a Year of Burnout (The New Stack)
WHY DO WE EXPECT SO MUCH FROM COMPUTERS?
While we have automated testing, test coverage, SLAs, redundancy best practices, etc - We still really don’t know when computers and software will break. So why do we get so frustrated when it happens, instead of having backup plans?
SHOULD WE LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY FAILURES AS THE WORLD TRYING TO TELLING US SOMETHING?
- Cloud service failures happen, and tend to last less than a full work day. Most are only a couple hours.
- We tend to believe that we’re very dependent on technology and cloud services, until they go away. And then we figure out that we can all adapt.
- We could all use some time reading a book, getting outside to do some exercise (go for a walk), or spending some time away from computers or being online.
- We could all use a break in our extended hours work days.
FEEDBACK?
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12/19/21 • 14 min

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After the Great Resignation
The Cloudcast
01/30/22 • 22 min
As the “Great Resignation” rolls along, many people are facing the prospect of a new role or a new company. What are some tips to be successful in the near-term in this new role?
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SHOW NOTES:
- Great Resignation (“The Big Quit”) - Wikipedia
- Who is Driving the Great Resignation? (HBR)
- The Great Resignation? More like the Great Renegotiation (NPR)
20-25% OF PEOPLE IN TECHNOLOGY HAVE CHANGED JOBS IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS
Lots of people are taking new jobs, and right now the industry is paying a premium for talent. So how can you stand out in your new role or company? How can you make an immediate difference?
HOW CAN YOU STAND OUT IN YOUR NEW ROLE OR NEW COMPANY
- Keep in mind that most managers don’t expect you to make big contributions for 3-6 months (sometimes longer) as they realize there is always a learning curve.
- But everyone is watching what you do to make a judgment of “are they a good fit?”.
- Find out what’s important to your boss. Understand the things that they are measured on.
- Identify an area that is either broken or needs improvement. And try to fix it.
- Read as much as you can (read the docs!), and try to be valuable in your group and somewhere else in the company.
FEEDBACK?
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01/30/22 • 22 min

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Lessons Learned from Shadow IT
The Cloudcast
02/13/22 • 31 min
Shadow IT and start-ups were the original users of public cloud, over a decade ago. But as public cloud has become a multi-billion dollar business, let’s explore how the role of Shadow IT has evolved.
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SHOW NOTES:
- Shadow IT
- Why Software is Eating the World (WSJ, 2011)
- “Does IT Matter” (Nicholas Carr, 2014)
- Bi-Modal IT (Gartner, 2015)
DOES SHADOW IT STILL EXIST IF PUBLIC CLOUD IS MAINSTREAM?
Shadow IT began as a way to be more productive in the office (server under the desk, WiFi in a conference room, etc.) and then it went to the cloud (SaaS, the IaaS/PaaS). But how did it evolve and what situations has it created now?
WHAT DOES THE NEW DISTRIBUTED IT LOOK LIKE NOW?
- Everybody has the ability to get access to (almost) any technology, via open-source or public cloud, or freemium services.
- Everybody has the ability to learn something new (YouTube, ACloudGuru, Developer Evangelists, etc.
- IT organizations have less influence over company-wide architectures and strategies.
- IT still is often tasked with maintaining applications/security/compliance, even after another group deployed it.
- IT leaders are asked to lead digital transformation projects, and typically aren’t staying in the same place for more than 2-3 years. How much of that time is spent coordinating, communicating, re-organizing around DevOps, DevSecOps, FinOps, AIOps, etc..
- There are hybrid applications, but they aren’t hybrid in the sense of consistently being deployed everywhere to manage vendor lock-in.
- There are many multi-cloud companies because IT no longer has a boundary. And the economics of cloud means that most applications won’t move once deployed (easier to turn off than to move).
- There are many, many pains-of-glass.
FEEDBACK?
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02/13/22 • 31 min

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Data Observability
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02/23/22 • 37 min
Kevin Hu (@kevinzenghu, Co-Founder | CEO at @Metaplane) talks about the concepts behind Data Observability and the unique challenges for Data Engineers.
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- Usage.ai (homepage)
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- New Relic (homepage)
- Services down? New Relic offers full stack visibility with 16 different monitoring products in a single platform.
SHOW NOTES:
- Metaplane (homepage)
Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Let’s talk about your background and what led you to start Metaplane.
Topic 2 - Let’s start by talking about the concept of what is a modern data engineer. What is this person doing, what are they responsible for, and who are their typical “customers” within a business.
Topic 3 - Beyond just huge volumes of data and trying to make the data usable (formatting, ETL, storage access, etc.), what sort of problems do data engineers encounter? How much is typically “first-party data” and how much comes from external systems?
Topic 4 - Let’s talk about Data Observability. First off, what is it?. And second, how is it different from the Observability that we’ve seen from Datadog or Honeycomb or Observe or many others?
Topic 5 - What are the types of Data Observability problems that Metaplane is focused on solving for Data engineers? Are these usually done independently, or in collaboration with the application or business analyst teams?
Topic 6 - What are some of the immediate results (improvements) that companies see when adding Data Observability to their environments?
FEEDBACK?
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02/23/22 • 37 min

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Thoughts on Cloud Outages
The Cloudcast
12/12/21 • 22 min
AWS had an outage in a region and many people responded. What did we learn about outages, responses, and dealing with cloud services going forward?
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- Datadog Security Solution: Modern Monitoring and Security
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- JumpCloud (homepage)
- At the intersection of devices, identities, and access, JumpCloud’s cloud directory platform unifies the IT resources in any company’s infrastructure – anywhere work happens. Fully evaluate JumpCloud for free today
SHOW NOTES:
- AWS US-East-1 Outage (Dec.10, 2021) - Post Mortem (AWS Blog)
- Your Response to AWS Going Down Shouldn’t Be Multicloud (Tech Republic)
- Larry Ellison brags about Oracle Cloud after AWS outage
CLOUD OUTAGES ARE A PART OF USING A SHARED SERVICE
This week another major cloud service had an outage. They happen frequently enough, for some period of time (usually measured in hours), that we really notice them and then move on. Their impact is felt across many sites and dependent services,
SOME THOUGHTS ON RESPONSES TO CLOUD OUTAGES
- 5 levels of grief - denial and isolation, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.
- The cloud providers (typically) don’t snipe at either other - they’ve all been there.
- The post-mortems are becoming more consistent - any highly anticipated
- We continue to learn about differences in cloud architectures, and where failures points (and failure actions) occur.
- We still don’t understand the internal cloud architectural dependencies of each cloud.
- How many companies actually follow multi-region best practices? How much does multi-region cost?
- Multi-cloud is often a knee-jerk reaction, but it’s never that simple - cost, complexity, skills
FEEDBACK?
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12/12/21 • 22 min

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Tools for the Business Engineer
The Cloudcast
12/15/21 • 36 min
Gil Hoffer (@gilhoffer, Co-Founder / CTO @salto_io) talks about the challenges of managing and integrating SaaS applications, the blurring line between business and technical engineer, and software supply-chain for SaaS integrations.
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SHOW NOTES:
- Salto (homepage)
- Companies today have, on average, 800 SaaS applications
- Salto (OSS code) - manage business applications by code
Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You have a broad background in engineering and entrepreneurship. Let’s talk about your background and what led you to create Salto.
Topic 2 - There is a big trend happening, where companies are using more and more technology outside of the “central IT” groups. This includes quite a bit of SaaS usage. But it also requires more than just vanilla SaaS. Let’s talk about this concept of a “business engineer”.
Topic 3 - How often do SaaS applications need customizations? How often does a business application require integrations across multiple SaaS services?
Topic 4 - Walk us through a day in the life of a business engineer, and what’s involved in some of the integrations? How much is being able to code, and how much
Topic 5 - Integrations can be complicated, not only to build, but also to maintain. How does Salto simplify the creation and life cycle of these integrations?
Topic 6 - Salto is available as OSS, software and SaaS. What seems to be the best usage model for certain use-cases or types of businesses?
FEEDBACK?
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12/15/21 • 36 min

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2021 in Review, 2022 Predictions
The Cloudcast
12/22/21 • 59 min
Aaron (@aarondelp) and Brian (@bgracely) discuss the biggest trends from 2021, and make bold cloud computing predictions in 2022.
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- Sign up for a CBT Nuggets Free Learner account
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SHOW NOTES:
PODCAST BUSINESS:
- Crossed out 11yr anniversary
- We crossed 500 shows (March ’21)
- Most listens in history, up about 20% from last year
- We launched Cloudcast Basics (4 seasons)
- We launched the Sunday Perspectives shows
- We got named #1 Cloud podcast
- We got named top 20 security podcasts
- Listeners in 130 countries | 4200 Cities
- IPOs from our guests - $2.678B
- VC Funding for our guest - $2.516B
TRENDS and MAJOR STORIES from 2021:
- COVID pandemic continued, although some parts of many businesses opened up as vaccines became available.
- Working from Home seems to be a very real, long-term possibility for many in Tech. 25% of workers changed jobs (via LinkedIn)
- AWS - $60B, Azure - $68B, GCP - $15B
- AWS has new leadership. re:Invent felt very different.
- ARM is making a big push in the cloud (and Mac M1)
- This idea of “supercloud” or “overlay cloud services” is gaining traction - companies like Red Hat, Snowflake, MongoDB, Confluent, CockroachDB, etc. are growing quickly as SaaS services, even when the cloud has a native service.
- Cloudflare is making a move to chip away at AWS’ profits (egress networking)
- Digital Ocean is making a bigger push around SMB cloud and developers
- VMware become independent again (from Dell)
- Cloud providers still haven’t acquired legacy software companies to get into the on-premises data centers. They keep adjusting their offerings (Outposts, Arc, Anthos)
- Kubernetes keeps growing, but the hype has slowed down and moved to other areas adjacent to Kubernetes (Service Mesh, eBPF, etc.)
- Software-Supply-Chains and DevSecOps “shift left security” are now heavily funded industry segments.
- The metaverse, Web3, Crypto, NFTs are all starting to get a lots of hype (and confusion)
2022 PREDICTIONS:
AARON’s PREDICTIONS
- Zero Trust Models (again...) - Also security has been/will be the hardest part of cloud and hot job market will continue
- Microsoft will become top public cloud worldwide, AWS will fall to #2
- Google will settle into 3rd, 4th, even 5th spot...
BRIAN’s PREDICTIONS
- Alphabet/Google decides if they still believe they can get to #2 by 2023
- We’ll start seeing the first generation of ex-AWS people starting new companies
FEEDBACK?
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12/22/21 • 59 min

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Developing Multi-Cloud Skills
The Cloudcast
03/23/22 • 36 min
Forrest Brazeal (@forrestbrazeal, Head of Content @GoogleCloud) talks about the realities of multi-cloud (intended and accidental), how to adapt skills to new cloud environments, and best vs. worst practices.
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- Datadog Monitoring: Modern Monitoring and Analytics
- Start monitoring your infrastructure, applications, logs and security in one place with a free 14 day Datadog trial. Listeners of The Cloudcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt.
- CloudZero - Cloud Cost Intelligence for Engineering Teams
- strongDM - Secure infrastructure access for the modern stack.
- Manage access to any server, database, or Kubernetes instance in minutes. Fully auditable, replayable, secure, and drag-and-drop easy. Try it free for 14 days - www.strongdm.com/signup
SHOW NOTES:
- The Cloud Resume Challenge Book
- The Read Aloud Cloud
- Cloud Irregular (Forrest’s blog)
- The Best Jobs in Cloud
- Advice for transferring IT skills to Cloud skills (Twitter thread)
- Are you multicloud engineer yet? (Google Cloud)
Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We first learned about your skills at A Cloud Guru, but you work on a bunch of really interesting projects. Tell us a little bit about your background, and what you now focus on at Google Cloud.
Topic 2 - For a while you were very AWS-centric in your focus. What were your thoughts on multi-cloud a few years ago, and how has that evolved over the last few years?
Topic 3 - Hashicorp’s recent State of Cloud Strategy Survey found 76% of employers are already using multiple clouds in some fashion, with more than 50% flagging lack of skills among their employees as a top challenge to survival in the cloud. What do these survey results tell you about actual company usage of clouds?
Topic 4 - You spend a lot of time talking to people about cloud jobs and transitioning to cloud skills. In the context of multi-cloud, who do you find should be focusing on multi-cloud? Is it more infrastructure-centric or application-centric or something else?
Topic 5 - Technical people obviously can’t be experts in everything (all clouds). Do you have any suggestions for companies that have to manage applications across multiple clouds? Best practices, worst practices, etc.
Topic 6 - We have to ask about the songs. How did it begin, what’s the process, and do your co-workers respond to them? FEEDBACK?
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03/23/22 • 36 min

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The Cloudcast currently has 793 episodes available.
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The podcast is about News, Cloud, Devops, Tech News, Podcasts, Google and Technology.
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The episode title 'Understanding & Managing Committed Cloud Spend' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on The Cloudcast is 32 minutes.
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