Ep15 The Culture Fit Diversity Dilemma

09/19/22 • 31 min

We have probably all heard the well used phrase from Peter Drucker that "Culture eats Strategy for Breakfast", this podcast looks at the importance of culture for success, and the question of whether we should be assessing talent for cultural fit or cultural agility and what is the impact of assessing for cultural fit or values fit on diversity?
The term culture fit has been an increasingly contentious subject in talent assessment, however there has been a move towards culture agility for assessment for recruitment in recent years. In this episode, Amanda is being interviewed by Angela Malik to understand, what is cultural agility, why is it important, and how can we bring in recruitment practices to enable organisations to be more cognitively diverse and culturally agile?
The Chief Psychology Officer website is now available https://www.thecpo.co.uk/ Please like and follow Zircon for more podcasts and articles at https://www.linkedin.com/company/zircon-consulting-ltd/
To contact Amanda via LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amandapotterzircon
To contact Amanda via email: [email protected]
For more information about the BeTalent Values cards mentioned in this podcast please go to: https://www.betalent.com
Timestamps

Cultural Agility

· 00:00 – Introduction to Cultural Agility

· 00:43 – This could be a contentious issue...

· 01:19 – Culture is the word!

· 02:01 – What is Culture?

· 02:47 – Culture vs. Climate

· 03:58 – “Culture eats strategy for breakfast!”

· 04:36 – Effects of poor Organizational Culture

· 05:18 – $200 billion, gone in 5 years!

Building a Culture, for Culture

· 05:35 – When we get it right...

· 06:07 – Good Culture vs. Bad Culture

· 07:02 – A shared understanding

· 07:38 – We all need to be on the same page

· 08:35 – Core values on the bulletin board

· 11:31 – Do away with the values?

· 12:41 – Values for recruitment

· 13:33 – Change was in the air...

Diversity & Factionalism

· 14:42 – Selective hiring, undermines Diversity

· 15:33 – Strengths + Culture doesn’t always mix

· 16:04 – Culture Fit => Cultural Agility

· 16:42 – What is Cultural Agility?

· 17:23 – Silo Mentality

· 17:54 – Aspired Values vs. Actual Values

· 18:52 – The value of using Values

Just from looking at this next bit...

· 19:43 – Unconscious Bias

· 20:39 – Amygdala & Pre-frontal Cortex

· 21:45 – Similarity Bias

· 22:24 – Were they the right fit?

· 23:15 – First Impression Bias

· 24:32 – Contrast Effect

· 25:19 – Overcoming Bias in recruiting

· 26:29 – Hiring through Cultural Agility

· 27:59 – Summary of the list

This is right for you!

· 28:21 – We still believe in Strengths

· 29:22 – Curiosity may not kill the cat...

· 29:53 – The value of

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Cultural Agility

· 00:00 – Introduction to Cultural Agility

· 00:43 – This could be a contentious issue...

· 01:19 – Culture is the word!

· 02:01 – What is Culture?

· 02:47 – Culture vs. Climate

· 03:58 – “Culture eats strategy for breakfast!”

· 04:36 – Effects of poor Organizational Culture

· 05:18 – $200 billion, gone in 5 years!

Building a Culture, for Culture

· 05:35 – When we get it right...

· 06:07 – Good Culture vs. Bad Culture

· 07:02 – A shared understanding

· 07:38 – We all need to be on the same page

· 08:35 – Core values on the bulletin board

· 11:31 – Do away with the values?

· 12:41 – Values for recruitment

· 13:33 – Change was in the air...

Diversity & Factionalism

· 14:42 – Selective hiring, undermines Diversity

· 15:33 – Strengths + Culture doesn’t always mix

· 16:04 – Culture Fit => Cultural Agility

· 16:42 – What is Cultural Agility?

· 17:23 – Silo Mentality

· 17:54 – Aspired Values vs. Actual Values

· 18:52 – The value of using Values

Just from looking at this next bit...

· 19:43 – Unconscious Bias

· 20:39 – Amygdala & Pre-frontal Cortex

· 21:45 – Similarity Bias

· 22:24 – Were they the right fit?

· 23:15 – First Impression Bias

· 24:32 – Contrast Effect

· 25:19 – Overcoming Bias in recruiting

· 26:29 – Hiring through Cultural Agility

· 27:59 – Summary of the list

This is right for you!

· 28:21 – We still believe in Strengths

· 29:22 – Curiosity may not kill the cat...

· 29:53 – The value of

Previous Episode

Ep14 Success Begins with True Commitment to DE&I

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For an organisation, department or team to succeed, they need the right environment for it to be great. As leaders, our success depends on our environment, so it is critical that we make sure what we are surrounding ourselves with the right people who will give us the energy, challenge, insight to thrive. To succeed, we need to surround ourselves with the right people, because you who you spend time with impacts your belief and your mindset.
The interview will look at the impact that diversity, equity and inclusion (DE&I) can have on the success of an organisation and how organisations can promote better demographic, cultural and cognitive diversity.
In this episode, Tim Hepworth will be interviewing our Chief Psychology Officer - Dr Amanda Potter and Tom Emery, the Chief People Officer at Brooks Macdonald to understand how organisations can create a cognitively and culturally diverse environment that sets the business up for success.
The Chief Psychology Officer website is now available https://www.thecpo.co.uk/ Please like and follow Zircon for more podcasts and articles at https://www.linkedin.com/company/zircon-consulting-ltd/
If you are interested in talking to Amanda about the cognitive diversity, diversity and inclusion practices in your organisation please contact her via LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amandapotterzircon or email: [email protected]
To contact Tom please message via LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-emery-he-him-b8809818/ or to find out more about Brooks Macdonald please go to https://www.brooksmacdonald.com/
For more information about the BeTalent Psychological Safety questionnaire mentioned in this podcast please go to: https://www.betalent.com
Timestamps

Environment for Success

· 00:00 – Introduction to the Environment for Success

· 00:35 – Cultural Diversity = Success

· 02:26 – Impact of Diversity on the business

· 03:12 – Career History: Tom Emery

· 04:49 – Why talk about Diversity?

· 05:32 – The times they are a changin’

Learning from the past...

· 07:25 – Is it a sin?

· 09:30 – Inclusion is not an illusion

· 09:54 – Dos and do not dos (without being woke)

· 11:10 – Who we hire

· 13:05 – Diverse inclusion vs. inclusion

The Lay of the land

· 14:12 – Women in the boardroom

· 15:23 – Gender diversity around the world

· 17:13 – Ethnicity in the boardroom

· 18:40 – I don’t want to stereotype here...

· 19:32 – Women are from Venus & Men are from Mars

· 21:47 – With victory comes sacrifice

Managing expectations

· 23:17 – Equality vs. Equity (not the actors union)

· 24:18 – Privilege

· 25:02 – Cultural Beliefs

· 27:22 – Cognitive Diversity revisited

· 29:19 – Microaggression

· 30:26 – Anglicizing names

· 33:17 – Menopause deserves a Menapplause

Getting a grip on the situation

· 35:22 – How to

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Ep16 Putting Race on the Agenda

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In this special episode for Black History Month, we invite our guest Maurice Mcleod (pronounced as 'Morris' by his friends), the CEO of ROTA (Race on the Agenda), to give his views on how racism has changed over his lifetime, and how we as individuals and organisations can learn from and support Black, Asian and other ethnic minority colleagues. We discuss the impact on personal judgement and decision-making and what we can each personally do to be more inclusive and become true allies.
For further information about ROTA please go to: https://www.rota.org.uk/
The Chief Psychology Officer website is now available https://www.thecpo.co.uk/
Please like and follow Zircon for more podcasts and articles at https://www.linkedin.com/company/zircon-consulting-ltd/
If you have questions or would like to speak to Amanda please contact her via LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amandapotterzircon or via email: [email protected]
Timestamps

Race on the Agenda

· 00:00 – Introduction to Race on the Agenda

· 01:24 – Maurice Mcleod Career History

· 01:45 – ROTA Explained

· 03:02 – Structurally speaking...

· 04:17 – Who does ROTA partner with?

· 05:28 – Trust & Safety panel

Breaking barriers

· 07:14 – Our allies

· 08:30 – Curiosity doesn’t kill the cat

· 09:07 – Psychological Safety revisited

· 10:36 – Watch our language

· 11:31 – Race is non-existent?

· 12:49 – Intentions are what we need to look for!

· 13:35 – Transcontinental barriers

· 14:58 – Context

Born in the USA

· 16:26 – Growing up in the Deep South...

· 17:00 – Code-switching

· 17:18 – “White Voice”

· 18:32 – Conversations with friends

· 20:39 – Watch how you speak!

· 21:28 – Accentuation

· 22:17 – The Eton choristers

· 22:45 – Interaction from a couple’s perspective

In the workplace

· 23:46 – Equity vs. Equality

· 25:00 – Being authentic

· 26:14 – The work perspective

· 27:07 – Impact of COVID and Home-working

· 29:12 – The Statistics (US based)

Hardwired

· 29:53 – Steven Bartlett vs. Malcolm Gladwell

· 30:48 – Not everybody’s existence is like this...

· 32:07 – Personal experiences of racism in the workplace

· 34:32 – Micro-aggressions

· 35:45 – Overt or Covert?

· 37:39 – Are things changing?

· 38:36 – The end.

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