
The wrong place to slap a person (Friends)
09/27/24 • 99 min
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Nick Nisi joins Adam and Jerod to talk about Karaoke, ARC and the business model of web browsers, this WordPress drama, and an epic bonus for Changelog ++ subscribers.
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Nick Nisi joins Adam and Jerod to talk about Karaoke, ARC and the business model of web browsers, this WordPress drama, and an epic bonus for Changelog ++ subscribers.
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- Nick Nisi – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
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Leveling up JavaScript with Deno 2 (Interview)
Jerod is joined by Ryan Dahl to discuss his second take on leveling up JavaScript developers all around the world. Jerod asks Ryan why not try to fix or fork Node instead of starting fresh, how Deno (the open source project) can avoid the all too common rug pull (not cool) scenario, what’s new in Deno 2 & their pragmatic decision to support npm, they talk JSR, they talk Deno KV & SQLite, they even talk about Ryan’s open letter to Oracle in an attempt to free the unused “JavaScript” trademark from the giant’s clutches.
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Show Notes:
- Node.js: The Documentary - YouTube
- From Node.js to Deno: How It All Began - YouTube
- 10 Things I Regret About Node.js - YouTube
- JSR: the JavaScript Registry
- rusty_v8: Rust bindings for the V8 JavaScript engine
- JavaScriptTM (Dear Oracle)
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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source - The wrong place to slap a person (Friends)
Transcript
I never understood the term eavesdropping, because this is more like eaves picking stuff up...
Nick Nisi:How do they know if eaves is like the ceiling things, like the roof things?
Jerod Santo:So you're dropping stuff off the eave? Maybe that's why it's -- like, they drop it and you pick it up. I don't know. It's a weird word, eavesdropping.
Nick Nisi:Yeah.
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